Cormorant Fishermen

simplelogik · 30th July 2012, 3:23 PM

I love China so much that I went back there again in less than 12 months for a short break to ride the bike around the country side of Guilin, listening to frog croaking at night time and enjoy the awesomely cheap food and exotic fruits.

Cormorant fishermen

Cormorant Fishermen by Richard [ Albedo Photography ], on Flickr

Misfired with no flash. SOOC

Here's a video of fishermen in action. Not taken by me!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKWNx0WlSQE

Shortass_Jr · 30th July 2012, 4:30 PM

i like the shot don't get me wrong but i don't like the fact it seems you have used a flash???? makes the shot seem setup...... and for me it looks to unnatural did it really have a red sky???? hmmmm

simplelogik · 30th July 2012, 5:47 PM

Fair enough, I don’t know how to shoot this scene without a flash.
Maybe you could let me know how you could do things differently and more “natural” ?

Yes, the colour is natural. If you shoot landscape you would have realise that the colour is most intense about 20mins prior/after sun rise/set. Most landscape photographers do not have people in the scene, so it would be interesting know how else I could lit people in pitch darkness.

Azrael · 30th July 2012, 5:50 PM

Certainly a stunning image, but i think the harsh rolloff on the flash makes it look a bit unnatural. Hard without anything to bounce off, or reflectors though. Perhaps a stofen or toilet bowl?

fuller2002 · 30th July 2012, 5:52 PM

Good shot, flash is a little harsh but I wouldnt want it without, sky is too over powering maybe tone it back a bit.

Reminds me of Joey L's work when he was younger

(thats a huge compliment btw)

matt-chops · 31st July 2012, 1:39 PM

Mate, I love it, it captures the scene beautifully. I think the vibrancy of the sky and high contrast make it really pop. My first thought was "wow". Well done.

Deftone2k · 31st July 2012, 1:45 PM

Very much matching your style... which works

Perhaps the flash is a bit too harsh but considering what you used, where you were and being in the moment I am never going to argue

You should share your other one too though, its also really nice.

simplelogik · 31st July 2012, 8:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deftone2k

You should share your other one too though, its also really nice.

Nah, not going to bother posting on OCAU anymore, too many keyboard warriors and “expert” photographers around.

GetSmart · 31st July 2012, 8:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplelogik

Nah, not going to bother posting on OCAU anymore, too many keyboard warriors and “expert” photographers around.

lol, you upset bro? If you don't want criticism you need to qualify your OP - something like "Only positive admiration please, no criticism or suggestions"

Extremely striking photo, initial reaction is 'wow'. Flash is a bit too harsh for me. Sky is perhaps a bit too overtoned. These make it appear staged/over the top for me.

IMO it looks better in small

Shortass_Jr · 31st July 2012, 8:32 PM

sorry if my comment came across in the bad way but why do people bother to post on OCAU??? for some feedback? i was just putting my 2cents in agree or disagree or how you use it is all up to you mate....

xhanatos · 31st July 2012, 8:47 PM

holy crap

edit: lol at the not posting on OCAU anymore. skin.. thicker!

fuller2002 · 31st July 2012, 9:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplelogik

Nah, not going to bother posting on OCAU anymore, too many keyboard warriors and “expert” photographers around.

jesus dude

you cant expect to put work online and everyone just go "wow its 100% perfect, wouldn't change a thing about it"

the fact of the matter is, after you take a shot you can always pick it apart and say "if only i did that" etc you just need to take it for what it is, and its a great shot but the feedback seems to be the same.

Flash is overpowered and sky is over saturated/to much and needs to be toned back ever so slightly, other than that people have said its awesome. If you cant handle that type of feedback aka 90% positive then its probably time to GTFO

edit: i think its an awesome shot, but if you COULD change anything, those are what I would change.

C.Michael · 31st July 2012, 9:31 PM

I have no problem with the flash, nor sky. Stunning & powerful image.

Lol @ dummy spit though.

beLarge · 31st July 2012, 9:54 PM

Yeah I think it's an awesome photo.

theSeekerr · 31st July 2012, 10:33 PM

You know, until I saw the dummyspit, I was going to post about the things I liked in the image.

But now I'm just gonna leave this here:

Gel your flash!

Sure, it's your style to have mismatched white balance, but in this shot it just feels wrong IMO.

EDIT: Just went and found the other shot on Flickr. I love that one, it's epic.

30th July 2012, 3:23 PM	#1
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Shortass_Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359	i like the shot don't get me wrong but i don't like the fact it seems you have used a flash???? makes the shot seem setup...... and for me it looks to unnatural did it really have a red sky???? hmmmm __________________ MacPro 3.4 Intel Quad Core Xeon, 16GB Ram, Corsair 128GB SSD, 2x Apple 23" Display, OSX 10.8.X Nikon D3s, Nikkor 24-70 F2.8, Nikkor 70-200 F2.8, Nikkor 50 1.8G, Nikkor 85 1.4G, Nikkor 105 2.8G, Lowepro Pro Messenger 180 AW + Nova 200 AW, Lee Filters, ND400, 2 x SB700

30th July 2012, 5:47 PM	#3
simplelogik Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Perth Posts: 447	Fair enough, I don’t know how to shoot this scene without a flash. Maybe you could let me know how you could do things differently and more “natural” ? Yes, the colour is natural. If you shoot landscape you would have realise that the colour is most intense about 20mins prior/after sun rise/set. Most landscape photographers do not have people in the scene, so it would be interesting know how else I could lit people in pitch darkness. __________________ Wedding Photographer \| Facebook \| albedophotography.com.au

30th July 2012, 5:50 PM	#4
Azrael Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 6,951	Certainly a stunning image, but i think the harsh rolloff on the flash makes it look a bit unnatural. Hard without anything to bounce off, or reflectors though. Perhaps a stofen or toilet bowl? __________________ --Azrael I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself. - D.H.Lawrence The Plebian Period \| I'm a Christian... \| Photo Gallery \| avatar_takai @ Steam \| takai on all other forums.

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fuller2002 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NSW, Sydney Posts: 1,492	Good shot, flash is a little harsh but I wouldnt want it without, sky is too over powering maybe tone it back a bit. Reminds me of Joey L's work when he was younger (thats a huge compliment btw) __________________ BF3 Trades with:petal666, Mark_Webber, Kasper_lee, renegade_gold, Keef, doghouse, kevo, MoeBro, vivibeatz, smiddi, neogeo, nxsr20, Fortigurn, vrm, myeewyee, ~Spyne~, junga83, petesh00, Souljah, theartfuldodger

31st July 2012, 1:39 PM	#6
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Deftone2k Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: North Strathfield, NSW Posts: 12,623	Very much matching your style... which works Perhaps the flash is a bit too harsh but considering what you used, where you were and being in the moment I am never going to argue You should share your other one too though, its also really nice. __________________ Jack Chauvel Photography \| For Sale: Comprehensive Nikon Camera Kit Guide to B&W Film Development \| Flickr \| Facebook \| Twitter \| My Travels in Photos 181* Successful Trades

31st July 2012, 8:32 PM	#10
Shortass_Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359	sorry if my comment came across in the bad way but why do people bother to post on OCAU??? for some feedback? i was just putting my 2cents in agree or disagree or how you use it is all up to you mate.... __________________ MacPro 3.4 Intel Quad Core Xeon, 16GB Ram, Corsair 128GB SSD, 2x Apple 23" Display, OSX 10.8.X Nikon D3s, Nikkor 24-70 F2.8, Nikkor 70-200 F2.8, Nikkor 50 1.8G, Nikkor 85 1.4G, Nikkor 105 2.8G, Lowepro Pro Messenger 180 AW + Nova 200 AW, Lee Filters, ND400, 2 x SB700

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31st July 2012, 9:31 PM	#13
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31st July 2012, 9:54 PM	#14
beLarge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brisbane Posts: 293	Yeah I think it's an awesome photo.

31st July 2012, 10:33 PM	#15
theSeekerr Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 878	You know, until I saw the dummyspit, I was going to post about the things I liked in the image. But now I'm just gonna leave this here: Gel your flash! Sure, it's your style to have mismatched white balance, but in this shot it just feels wrong IMO. EDIT: Just went and found the other shot on Flickr. I love that one, it's epic. __________________ Lucis+Umbra Blog - Photography by c.j. kerr Last edited by theSeekerr; 31st July 2012 at 10:36 PM.