Lobsters = cockaroaches of the sea?

ThunderbirdMoz · 6th August 2012, 10:47 AM

"During colonial times, lobster was food for the poverty stricken, prisoners and indentured servants. In the Massachusetts colony that encompassed the land that became known as Maine, indentured servants protested and had instructions written in to their seven-year contracts that they would not be forced to eat lobster more than three times a week."

http://traveltips.usatoday.com/histo...ter-21560.html

Interesting how the perception of certain foods change over time. Back then lobsters were the rubbish food for the poor and slaves. Now you have to have to go out of your way to eat it.

oculi · 6th August 2012, 11:05 AM

I've heard of this before, i'm not all that keen on lobster either.

potatoes (or tomatoes) were originally thought to be poisonous

my aunt was saying that when the first Italian immigrants came to town (fairly small town) nobody wanted to eat pizza because it looked weird, they had to give people free samples to win them over.

FerrisXB9R · 6th August 2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by oculi

I've heard of this before, i'm not all that keen on lobster either.

potatoes (or tomatoes) were originally thought to be poisonous

my aunt was saying that when the first Italian immigrants came to town (fairly small town) nobody wanted to eat pizza because it looked weird, they had to give people free samples to win them over.

Potatoes ARE grown from Deadly Nightshade mate. The plant itself is poisonous, and green potatoes are also toxic.

wwwww · 6th August 2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by oculi

I've heard of this before, i'm not all that keen on lobster either.

A lot of Australians don't like lobsters because the local ones are basically oversized prawns. They're tasteless, watery things. Try American or Canadian lobsters before judging them.

KANNIS · 6th August 2012, 11:25 AM

Not a fan of Lobster. I prefer king prawns with a much sweeter flavour.

bl4ck32 · 6th August 2012, 12:00 PM

same as meat. Lamb shanks, and ribs used to be a poor mans cut and now days cant buy them due to the price they slap on the things.....$10 a shank? no thanks.

guy.incogneto · 6th August 2012, 12:08 PM

Salami, jerky, biltong - all poor mans food that was seasoned so that it could store without being cooled (prior to fridges/freezers) All of which we eat now as a "delicatessen" even though this form of curing meat is not needed in this day and age

Also simple things like salt and pepper are taken for granted so much these days, items that were sought after back in the day and only available to the super rich and well travelled.
Same with teas and most spices.

Amfibius · 6th August 2012, 1:02 PM

Not to mention the attitude towards eating offal.

I was at a yumcha restaurant over the weekend. And I was really surprised to hear the white Aussies at the next table ask the waitress ... "do you have any tripe?". Maybe it's changed once, and is changing again

Active Snail · 6th August 2012, 1:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amfibius

Not to mention the attitude towards eating offal.

I was at a yumcha restaurant over the weekend. And I was really surprised to hear the white Aussies at the next table ask the waitress ... "do you have any tripe?". Maybe it's changed once, and is changing again

Its funny you mention this because ive noticed people around my age (23-27) start to develop a taste for things they used to despise. For example kidneys, black pudding, liver and bacon etc. Of course all of these things werent weird to me because i have English parents and i was fed them from a young age, but things are starting to change theres no doubt about that.

pugsley · 6th August 2012, 1:38 PM

The thing about (What were) the cheaper cuts of meat is the stigma of the upper class has somewhat disappeared. Take Lamb shanks for instance, you wouldn't be caught serving them in a fancy restaurant 15 years ago. It was a cheap cut that people in the know brought, and slow cooked into something wonderful. It wasn't until chefs started saying "Now hang on, this shit is tasty" that people gave them a go. I remember having slow cooked lamb shanks in lew of a sunday roast when i was a kid as some weeks we couldnt afford a leg of lamb or shoulder of pork. Mum could pick up a dozen shanks from the local butcher for a couple dollars.

Today if i want to relive that childhood memory it costs me up to $20 per person to recreate the dish.

Zee · 6th August 2012, 1:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wwwww

A lot of Australians don't like lobsters because the local ones are basically oversized prawns. They're tasteless, watery things. Try American or Canadian lobsters before judging them.

From my understanding, what we call "lobsters" are really crayfish. Lobsters have claws.

And yes, the American and Candian ones are very tasty...

Z...

chainbolt · 6th August 2012, 2:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderbirdMoz

"During colonial times, lobster was food for the poverty stricken, prisoners and indentured servants. In the Massachusetts colony that encompassed the land that became known as Maine, indentured servants protested and had instructions written in to their seven-year contracts that they would not be forced to eat lobster more than three times a week."

http://traveltips.usatoday.com/histo...ter-21560.html

Interesting how the perception of certain foods change over time. Back then lobsters were the rubbish food for the poor and slaves. Now you have to have to go out of your way to eat it.

Interesting story, did not know that. I love lobster, not only for its taste, but also its nutritional value.

psychobunny · 6th August 2012, 2:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chainbolt

Interesting story, did not know that. I love lobster, not only for its taste, but also its nutritional value.

i heard somebody say this about corn.... i laughed

hay chainbolt, is there much llobster, or other shellfish avail in japan or is it hella expensive?

Slavetonet · 6th August 2012, 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcHoBuNnY

i heard somebody say this about corn.... i laughed

hay chainbolt, is there much llobster, or other shellfish avail in japan or is it hella expensive?

Japan don't have local lobster. They have been extinct ages ago.

Even if there are still lobster there, would you still eat it after the fukushima meltdown. The Japanese dumped their nuclear heavy water into the surrounding ocean.

Yummy 3 claws lobster with 2 tails.

figrin · 6th August 2012, 3:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderbirdMoz

Interesting how the perception of certain foods change over time. Back then lobsters were the rubbish food for the poor and slaves. Now you have to have to go out of your way to eat it.

I'm interested in this too. Previous sugar and spices were so expensive but now they are everyday food.

Unfortunately I don't see any precious food getting cheaper these days. Everything is just getting dearer.

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oculi Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,038	I've heard of this before, i'm not all that keen on lobster either. potatoes (or tomatoes) were originally thought to be poisonous my aunt was saying that when the first Italian immigrants came to town (fairly small town) nobody wanted to eat pizza because it looked weird, they had to give people free samples to win them over. __________________ Reality or nothing

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KANNIS Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 8,051	Not a fan of Lobster. I prefer king prawns with a much sweeter flavour. __________________ \|-O-\| (-O-) \|-O-\| "STAY IN ATTACK FORMATION" OCAU Fishing Club Member #1

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bl4ck32 Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: adlaide Posts: 4,345	same as meat. Lamb shanks, and ribs used to be a poor mans cut and now days cant buy them due to the price they slap on the things.....$10 a shank? no thanks. __________________ C:\ C:\dos C:\dos\run run\dos\run

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Amfibius Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posts: 6,653	Not to mention the attitude towards eating offal. I was at a yumcha restaurant over the weekend. And I was really surprised to hear the white Aussies at the next table ask the waitress ... "do you have any tripe?". Maybe it's changed once, and is changing again __________________ -Amfibius

6th August 2012, 12:08 PM	#7
guy.incogneto Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,049	Salami, jerky, biltong - all poor mans food that was seasoned so that it could store without being cooled (prior to fridges/freezers) All of which we eat now as a "delicatessen" even though this form of curing meat is not needed in this day and age Also simple things like salt and pepper are taken for granted so much these days, items that were sought after back in the day and only available to the super rich and well travelled. Same with teas and most spices.