Abnormally High ADSL Speeds

PabloEscobar · 5th February 2013, 6:29 PM

I'm hoping someone more learned in the field of ADSL can enlighten me on this.

The site http://www.adsl2exchanges.com.au lists me as being ~4KM as the crow flies to my closest exchange, and gives me an estimated cable length of ~4.7KM's, I applied to get my existing (TPG) ADSL service relocated to this address, in full knowledge and expectation of fair to poor ADSL 2+ speeds.

After a lengthy saga to get my line connected properly (see http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...8&postcount=14), I get home today to find my modem showing all systems go. My crappy netgear gives me the following stats.

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 23226 kbps 1012 kbps
Line Attenuation 12.0 db 5.8 db
Noise Margin 8.0 db 8.2 db

Speedtest.net confirms that it's not lying about the speed.

Various downloads from around the net confirm that it's accurate enough.

I've worked in a building where I could literally piss on the exchange, and not seen sync speeds this high. can anyone suggest what is happening?

ck_psy · 5th February 2013, 6:30 PM

NBN?

Fiber optic line?

Ghoatman · 5th February 2013, 6:39 PM

Most likely on a RIM that's in your street, with a DSLAM in it. There's a term for that setup, but can't remember off the top of my head.

I had the same thing @ a place I was living at, about 4-5km from exchange, but got epic speeds.

PabloEscobar · 5th February 2013, 6:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ck_psy

NBN?

Fiber optic line?

Unlikely, area is not scheduled to begin contruction for NBN until October this year.

Its semi-rural, and all I'm paying for is ADSL2+ delivered over a standard Telstra phone line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoatman

Most likely on a RIM that's in your street, with a DSLAM in it. There's a term for that setup, but can't remember off the top of my head.

I had the same thing @ a place I was living at, about 4-5km from exchange, but got epic speeds.

With speeds like this, I might take the dog for a stroll and see if I can find any nondescript boxes with Telstra logos on them.

ddk · 5th February 2013, 7:08 PM

I have a cable length of 500m to my exchange and yet don't get speeds that high

I'm only faster than 88% of AU. That's just depressing. I WANNA BE NUMBER ONE!

baar01 · 5th February 2013, 7:15 PM

Most likely connected to a Cabinet which has had the Tophat upgrade done to it.

goodlet · 5th February 2013, 7:52 PM

I've seen this in the country in the middle of midwest WA. We're about 8km from town but sync at 19mbps. The closest property is 4km away. I was amazed, still am. Been on it for over a year now. 500km north-east of Perth and my internet is faster than what I get in the city in Perth.

PabloEscobar · 5th February 2013, 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baar01

Most likely connected to a Cabinet which has had the Tophat upgrade done to it.

+10 Candy to you.

Was taking the dog for a stroll and notice a Telstra cabinet ~ 300-500 meters to my house (depending on which way the cable goes)

This is what Google maps thinks it looks like

But now it has been cleaned of graffiti, and has a newish green box (or tophat if you will) sitting above it.

Thankyou OCOW for your collective knowledge in satisfying this lonely nerds curiosity.

thetron · 5th February 2013, 9:12 PM

You should be able to get 24-28mbit with PHYR chipset enabled type modem

Like me

Sledge · 5th February 2013, 9:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PabloEscobar

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 23226 kbps 1012 kbps
Line Attenuation 12.0 db 5.8 db
Noise Margin 8.0 db 8.2 db

Quick, you better ring up and complain!

GooSE · 5th February 2013, 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetron

You should be able to get 24-28mbit with PHYR chipset enabled type modem

Like me

ADSL2+ has a maximum of 24 Mbps.

thetron · 5th February 2013, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GooSE

ADSL2+ has a maximum of 24 Mbps.

Do I need to post screenshot of constant 2.8mbit?

sickbunny · 5th February 2013, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetron

Do I need to post screenshot of constant 2.8mbit?

2.8Mb/s is not the same as 28Mbps.

caspian · 5th February 2013, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetron

Do I need to post screenshot of constant 2.8mbit?

throughput is not the same as line rate, and nor are they correctly measured in the same unit.

thetron · 6th February 2013, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caspian

throughput is not the same as line rate, and nor are they correctly measured in the same unit.

An certain former coworker whom an ISP engineer once posted photo of his 28mbit connection and I didn't believe him. Until recently getting a modem with PHYX and line coding

Which basically DSL modem overclocking

Test one
Rate (Kbps) : D 25498 / U 1331
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 19280 / 1335
Peak Download rate: 2.77MB/s
Avg Download Rate: 2.66MB/s

Test two

Rate (Kbps) 25705 / 1337
Attainable Rate (Kbps) 19392 / 1335
Peak download rate: 2.80MB/s
Avg download rate: 2.68MB/s

Couldn't get the modem to sync with auto SNR. Because the lines are too wet/moist for much higher sync rate

5th February 2013, 6:29 PM	#1
PabloEscobar Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,817	Abnormally High ADSL Speeds I'm hoping someone more learned in the field of ADSL can enlighten me on this. The site http://www.adsl2exchanges.com.au lists me as being ~4KM as the crow flies to my closest exchange, and gives me an estimated cable length of ~4.7KM's, I applied to get my existing (TPG) ADSL service relocated to this address, in full knowledge and expectation of fair to poor ADSL 2+ speeds. After a lengthy saga to get my line connected properly (see http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...8&postcount=14), I get home today to find my modem showing all systems go. My crappy netgear gives me the following stats. ADSL Link Downstream Upstream Connection Speed 23226 kbps 1012 kbps Line Attenuation 12.0 db 5.8 db Noise Margin 8.0 db 8.2 db Speedtest.net confirms that it's not lying about the speed. Various downloads from around the net confirm that it's accurate enough. I've worked in a building where I could literally piss on the exchange, and not seen sync speeds this high. can anyone suggest what is happening?

5th February 2013, 7:08 PM	#5
ddk (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,577	I have a cable length of 500m to my exchange and yet don't get speeds that high I'm only faster than 88% of AU. That's just depressing. I WANNA BE NUMBER ONE! Last edited by ddk; 5th February 2013 at 7:11 PM.

5th February 2013, 7:52 PM	#7
goodlet Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Western Australia Posts: 1,676	I've seen this in the country in the middle of midwest WA. We're about 8km from town but sync at 19mbps. The closest property is 4km away. I was amazed, still am. Been on it for over a year now. 500km north-east of Perth and my internet is faster than what I get in the city in Perth. __________________ Good Trades: jomo, n00by, s4mmy, browca04, 838 La, fergs,

5th February 2013, 9:12 PM	#9
thetron Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Caboolture, BNE QLD Posts: 7,935	You should be able to get 24-28mbit with PHYR chipset enabled type modem Like me __________________ Comments about other people's English Report poor post directly to the poster via PM (Never an admin). Please be helpful by including your advice and comments

5th February 2013, 6:30 PM	#2
ck_psy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,587	NBN? Fiber optic line?

5th February 2013, 6:39 PM	#3
Ghoatman Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sunshine Coast, 4558 Posts: 1,367	Most likely on a RIM that's in your street, with a DSLAM in it. There's a term for that setup, but can't remember off the top of my head. I had the same thing @ a place I was living at, about 4-5km from exchange, but got epic speeds.

5th February 2013, 7:15 PM	#6
baar01 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: QLD Posts: 1,039	Most likely connected to a Cabinet which has had the Tophat upgrade done to it.