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Old 25th February 2013, 7:42 PM   #1
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Default Trinity gaming in an antec isk 110

Inspired by this:
https://gist.github.com/sliverstorm/4199804
minus the silly fan on the outside at the end.

Anybody done this locally? From benchmarks it should be respectable at 720p.

Issues:

Motherboard-
The MSI mobo FM2-A75IA-E53 he uses eventually isn't in Australia yet. Hopefully 2-3 weeks they say.
The Asrock Mobo FM2A75M-ITX sounds truly awful- with reports of it catching on fire.
So what are the options? Asrock FM2A85M can't find much about, other than it doesnt catch on fire.

CPU-
A10-5700 isn't available in Australia either, so the A8-5600 or the A10-5800 (and under-clock? to keep stock psu 90w)

Mounting- I would like to mount this behind a monitor on vesa mount, then mount whole thing on wall, does anybody know a local supplier of such a "dual mount".

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Old 25th February 2013, 11:48 PM   #2
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I looked at a low powered Trinity gaming in a review I did

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh....php?t=1068853

Might be of interest.. down in the undervolting section.
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and yes 5700 is unavailable. You can get the 5500 from PChome , but it's a bit of a step down in GPU cores..
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Old 26th February 2013, 9:59 AM   #3
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I looked at a low powered Trinity gaming in a review I did

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh....php?t=1068853

Might be of interest.. down in the undervolting section.
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and yes 5700 is unavailable. You can get the 5500 from PChome , but it's a bit of a step down in GPU cores..
Thanks for that, I actually found your post as you replied to this one.

Good result on the power consumption, hopefully the Asrock 75 mobo is just an anomaly.
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Old 26th February 2013, 5:11 PM   #4
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Inspired by this:
https://gist.github.com/sliverstorm/4199804
minus the silly fan on the outside at the end.

Anybody done this locally? From benchmarks it should be respectable at 720p.

Issues:

Motherboard-
The MSI mobo FM2-A75IA-E53 he uses eventually isn't in Australia yet. Hopefully 2-3 weeks they say.
The Asrock Mobo FM2A75M-ITX sounds truly awful- with reports of it catching on fire.
So what are the options? Asrock FM2A85M can't find much about, other than it doesnt catch on fire.

CPU-
A10-5700 isn't available in Australia either, so the A8-5600 or the A10-5800 (and under-clock? to keep stock psu 90w)

Mounting- I would like to mount this behind a monitor on vesa mount, then mount whole thing on wall, does anybody know a local supplier of such a "dual mount".

Cheers
yeh i've done an trinity ISK100 build quite a while back around xmas and i build it as soon as parts are available locally, no silly fans outside, PCCG stocks the A85X now. my build is currently using the older A75. if you wish to keep the stock 80w PSU ( yes its really 80w) the you would have to downclock to around 2.6ghz and undervolt to around 1v and certainly not recommended as the stock brick feels hot

http://www.overclock.net/t/1300645/u...#post_19368423

what i have in it is:
A10 5800k
Asrock FM2A75M-ITX
8GB Gskill sniper 1866mhz
160W pico PSU with 192w brick
Crucial M4 120gb SSD
Seagate momentus 500GB 7200RPM drive
Zigmatek Preaton low profile heatsink
Scythe 120mm slim fan
50mm Deepcool fan

some minor mods to making the PSU plug bigger so i can use the original hole, flipping the mesh side panel and replacing the stock 90mm fan with a larger one
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Old 27th February 2013, 1:12 PM   #5
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yeh i've done an trinity ISK100 build quite a while back around xmas and i build it as soon as parts are available locally, no silly fans outside, PCCG stocks the A85X now. my build is currently using the older A75. if you wish to keep the stock 80w PSU ( yes its really 80w) the you would have to downclock to around 2.6ghz and undervolt to around 1v and certainly not recommended as the stock brick feels hot

http://www.overclock.net/t/1300645/u...#post_19368423

what i have in it is:
A10 5800k
Asrock FM2A75M-ITX
8GB Gskill sniper 1866mhz
160W pico PSU with 192w brick
Crucial M4 120gb SSD
Seagate momentus 500GB 7200RPM drive
Zigmatek Preaton low profile heatsink
Scythe 120mm slim fan
50mm Deepcool fan

some minor mods to making the PSU plug bigger so i can use the original hole, flipping the mesh side panel and replacing the stock 90mm fan with a larger one
Cool cheers.. did you try with stock cpu fan or go straight to that setup?
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Old 27th February 2013, 1:55 PM   #6
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Cool cheers.. did you try with stock cpu fan or go straight to that setup?
went straight for it, i knew from the start the stock fan was rubbish and it wont fit
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notebook with a decent gpu in it.


or

no gpu

zotac
http://www.zotac.com/products/mini-p...zbox-id83.html
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notebook with a decent gpu in it.


or

no gpu

zotac
http://www.zotac.com/products/mini-p...zbox-id83.html
where both are inferior options? not to mention you dont get the fun of building it
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Old 1st March 2013, 12:25 PM   #9
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notebook with a decent gpu in it.


or

no gpu

zotac
http://www.zotac.com/products/mini-p...zbox-id83.html
notebook with equivalent graphics would be 2x the price, and probably make a lot of noise.

zbox if I could buy in Australia would also end up costing 2x price, and have 1/2 gfx performance.
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notebook with equivalent graphics would be 2x the price, and probably make a lot of noise.

zbox if I could buy in Australia would also end up costing 2x price, and have 1/2 gfx performance.
hypernetdist (sa grange road welland) is becoming a distr/reseller..says should be sim price from ebay? wait n see

i also had that idea a month ago same case ..cpu+board.. not sure of gpu) for a media center.

but i pickup a mx11 cheap. it has a nvidia 335 (avg gpu)

im adding a ssd 128g plex m5 pro..but it slow for gaming..

unless you built one of these..

(i have older model)

i built it to be a nedia center + power pc if i want to
orig it had a 800w zalman (quiet psu)
775 asus board with a 9450 quad oc to 3.6g + 8800gt sli

then pud out cpu+ psu + 1 card
turn it into quiet.
fanless psu
fanless heattsink (i added fan below for extra cooling if needed (65w cpu dual core cel)
added fanless heatsing to 8800gt card

system overheaded a bit so fan below cpu added with automatic fan control (only kicks in if needed)


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...ducts_id=20115




iv got the silverstone 400w fanles psu + heatsink




http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...id=368&area=en

(in it is a 8800 gtx fanless) (a bit old)

iv had it from 2008(a few upgrades) 775 board/psu etc..

its dead quiet ex for hdd

but you can put in a ssd.. n no noise.. steam from wirless from diff pc..

you could built a high end setup in that case..(iv built a sli setup in 2011) for a customer..but its not quiet...but it play everything

so i got this box.. dead quiet(exp hdd 2tb) i could make it fully quiet...but it take up some space next to screen.. whers notebook smaller..quiet too
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as you go faster gpu.. you need stonger psu/ cooling...

i like the fact that it uses a brick pack psu....going away from box...

but all the intel cpus(exp atom) have fans..not sure about amd?
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hypernetdist (sa grange road welland) is becoming a distr/reseller..says should be sim price from ebay? wait n see

i also had that idea a month ago same case ..cpu+board.. not sure of gpu) for a media center.

but i pickup a mx11 cheap. it has a nvidia 335 (avg gpu)

im adding a ssd 128g plex m5 pro..but it slow for gaming..

unless you built one of these..

(i have older model)

i built it to be a nedia center + power pc if i want to
orig it had a 800w zalman (quiet psu)
775 asus board with a 9450 quad oc to 3.6g + 8800gt sli

then pud out cpu+ psu + 1 card
turn it into quiet.
fanless psu
fanless heattsink (i added fan below for extra cooling if needed (65w cpu dual core cel)
added fanless heatsing to 8800gt card

system overheaded a bit so fan below cpu added with automatic fan control (only kicks in if needed)


http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...ducts_id=20115

image


iv got the silverstone 400w fanles psu + heatsink
image

image

http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...id=368&area=en

(in it is a 8800 gtx fanless) (a bit old)

iv had it from 2008(a few upgrades) 775 board/psu etc..

its dead quiet ex for hdd

but you can put in a ssd.. n no noise.. steam from wirless from diff pc..

you could built a high end setup in that case..(iv built a sli setup in 2011) for a customer..but its not quiet...but it play everything

so i got this box.. dead quiet(exp hdd 2tb) i could make it fully quiet...but it take up some space next to screen.. whers notebook smaller..quiet too
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as you go faster gpu.. you need stonger psu/ cooling...

i like the fact that it uses a brick pack psu....going away from box...

but all the intel cpus(exp atom) have fans..not sure about amd?
AMD have atom equiv that also fanless.

whole point of build is not quietness but compactness. need to be invisible behind a tv/monitor.

The silverstone is a nice case, I have the SG02. How annoying is that angular piece of metal for mounting fans??
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AMD have atom equiv that also fanless.

whole point of build is not quietness but compactness. need to be invisible behind a tv/monitor.

The silverstone is a nice case, I have the SG02. How annoying is that angular piece of metal for mounting fans??
i'd say its more useful then annoying, none the less im quite satisfied with the noise level of my ISK build and i get a**l about noise

naturally being a SFF enthusiasts i've experianced all kinds of small builds like a SLi and later CF in a SG03(pretty much a shorter SG02 rotated upright) with i7, owns both top spec m11x R1 and R3, curently have 2 ITX gaming servers(to be clustered) with i7 and GTX670 using SG08 and CM elite 120, AMD E350 (atom equiv) HTPC and that ISK trinity as a portable steam box/arcade/console emulator

honestly the m11x still has decent gaming in it as long as you dont require everything at ultra, i still run pretty much most game out there at 1080p on low except for a rare few, the trinity system has a fair amount more poke then m11x. none the less if you want the smoothest experiance then at 720p you can afford some eyecandy.

TBH fanless heatsink with a fanless PSU in SG02 is kinda bad move, the SG02 depends on the PSU fan as the exhaust and you lack any solid intake as well.

IIRC you cant have a fanless 8800GTX but you can with a 8800GT but still those things need air flow around them even while fanless

you only need about a 300-450w to get respectable gaming performance. 300w can do a 660Ti and 450w can easily take on a 680GTX

IMO going fanless is not always a smart move but rather the key is having some fans at the lowest noise level so that its inaudible

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with no fans in the system in summer it overheats, but i added a fan below the heatsink (which they now have a new pro model that does the same)

i added a fan for the hdd+ use a automatic controller to control fans, only turn on at half speed if cpu overheats, hdd fans runs at 40% fixed

it still dead quiet, esp if you put a ssd in it...im not sure what to do with my box, as notebook as made it obsolete..also you can use the ps3+ ps3 media server software

might turn it into a raid server (vis external raid box=card)???
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