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Old 12th April 2015, 10:16 PM   #1
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Default Silverstone FT02 DIY Watercool

Oct 2016 - Updated at post no.22
Feb 2017 - Updated at post no.27

Had an Antec TX1050 case and wanted to upgrade my DIY watercooling for CPU and GPU, the Antec was getting a little cramped
Found a Silverstone FT02 case off the forums recently, so initially, i just transferred everything over as best to see how it performed(ignore the convoluted pipework).Hardly any difference tempwise.PWM's dropped the most.

Antec TX1050


Initial FT02 fitout


FT02 DIY Watercool


I came across an old split-aircon for a few dollars.An hour or so dismantling had the guts out, then a plan of attack formed.

The videocard has since returned to air, as i wasn't keen on the bend in the board to hold the waterblock down, and temps on air were pretty good with the FT02 anyway.

Specs

AMD Opteron 170 delidded
DFI SLI-DR UT LanParty
2GB Team DDR500
FT02 Black (v1.0 non AP fan model)
Gigabyte WF 7950
Antec Quattro 1000
(Any comments on my rigs lack of grunt will be reported )


24/7 Overclock

CPU - 3.0 GHz @ 1.4V (50% OC), std. TDP 110W (OC TDP 118W)
Mem - 270 MHz @ 2.7V
GPU - 1103/1250 MHz


Watercooling

Ghetto Jet(Ghett) DIY waterblock(constructed and in use since 2007) - originally 49 x 1.0 holes for a lidded Opty, now 12 x 2.0mm holes for a delidded Opty
block jet area approx 38mm2 either way

Antec TX1050 aircon rad 16 runs x 9mm ID copper, one inlet/one outlet, one 120mm fan with shroud
cooling rad volume 205 x 125 x 45 mm (1,150,000 mm3)
tube cross-sect. area approx 64 mm2
calculated water volume approx 128,000 mm3
Ghett block 12 x 1.5mm holes

Silverstone FT02 aircon rad 12 runs x 6mm ID copper, two inlets/two outlets, three 180mm fans with shroud
cooling rad volume 540 x 130 x 25 mm (1,750,000 mm3)
tube cross-sect. area approx 56 mm2
calculated water volume approx 181,000 mm3
Ghett block 12 x 2.0mm holes


Temps

using Speedfan
TX1050
20ish ambient
fan speed varied with CPU temp(fan audible at high CPU load)
idles app 30/35, Orthos 10 mins,CPU load 49/51C, PWM load 57C, NB load 51C

FT02
20ish ambient
all fans on low(slight noise)
idles app 27/34, Orthos 10 mins,CPU load 48/49C, PWM load 63C, NB load 45C

all fans on high(clearly audible)
idles app 26/34, Orthos 10 mins,CPU load 47/48C, PWM load 62C, NB load 44C


Notes

- stock fan holders and filters removed, so fans can mount as low as possible in the bottom of the case.Wanted a shroud and some clearance to video card
- rubber strips in bottom of case under fan edges to minimize vibes and air leaks.The bottom of the standard case is not flat due to strengthening ribs, so rubber strips help level the fans up
- filters remounted with alum guides to underside of case
- modified the front case to unibody plastic spacer, for filter guide clearance
- quad speed CDrom Swiftech pump mount.Had to cut the pump plastic slightly so it fit into 2 bays
- covered 2 lower optical bays on unibody with piece of 3mm perspex and glued with epoxy
- cut out the lower 2 internal optical bays and refitted HD enclosure higher up.
- made a 3mm thick perspex full coverage shroud facing towards RH side panel, which allows clearance for 24pin M/B cable and vidcard cables.Shroud fits over fans on 3 sides for minimal air leaks. 20mm clearance from fans to rad fins.Approx 15mm clearance from rad to videocard
- four slot-in shroud mounts placed to LHS of fans(looking from front of case), with easily accessible bolt mounts on RHS.Minimal fitment issues.Extra length in the water hose to rad, so that rad can be removed then system drained.
After removing the videocard, the whole rad plus shroud can be removed...just.Should have made the rad fractionally shorter(Note for Mk2).
- made an inlet and outlet fitting
- after cutting the rad to size, the original plan was to glue the u-bends back on after flaring the corresponding tubes slightly.Being so thin, the tubes easily split(i tried first on the offcuts), so Plan B uses 6mm silicon tube fitted directly on each part.No leaks.
- i also derestricted my waterblock slightly, as after inital tests the suction side of the pump would collapse the 9mm silicon tubing with the dial at 2 or above.Went from 12 x1.5mm holes to 12 x 2.0 mm.Block waterflow cross-sect. area approx 38mm2
- two refill/air removal points at a convenient unused switchmount in the top panel
- no hoseclamps at all except at pump
- front and rear satin black paint on unibody

Future

- full or partial perspex window
- side or internal fan for better PWM temps
- vidcard back on DIY water

So was it worth doing?
A good little project over 2 weeks or so, that i wanted to do, partly because the original rad looked so out of place in a cavernous FT02.
A bit more work than i initially thought, particularly the perspex shroud and cutting/refitting the optical/hd area
CPU temps are only 2-3C better
Satisfaction of DIY

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Aircons



rad positioning


end tubes partially cut


shroud and rad positioning


oops


new inlet/outlet


bottom of case - fans fitted


undercase dustfilters


CDrom pump mount


Ghett block dismantled


original jet piece(has since been cut smaller)


Ghett block modded


front 2bay perspex


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Old 13th April 2015, 12:03 AM   #2
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Mr constuctArad Like it home made ftw
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Old 13th April 2015, 9:44 AM   #3
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That alone makes it all worth it.

Loving those hard tubes, dissipating heat is a bonus!
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Loving those hard tubes, dissipating heat is a bonus!
The silicon tube kinks very easily on bends, and i have plenty of copper at hand
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Old 13th April 2015, 11:51 AM   #5
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Specs

AMD Opteron 170 delidded
DFI SLI-DR UT LanParty
2GB Team DDR500
FT02 Black (v1.0 non AP fan model)
Gigabyte WF 7950
Antec Quattro 1000
(Any comments on my rigs lack of grunt will be reported )
Do you get a playable frame rate in minecraft?
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Do you get a playable frame rate in minecraft?
Yeah that's just cheeky
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Do you get a playable frame rate in minecraft?
I've played minecraft since it's official release and it's always run fine on Normal Distance render and relatively decent graphic settings. It was only since 1.3 came out my minecraft has become unplayable estimating about 10 FPS on even tiny distance and all the lowest settings.
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Old 28th June 2015, 12:25 PM   #8
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Small Update
Had been having some fluid loss constantly(maybe 5mm worth of hose each day or so), and unable to locate an obvious leak(admittedly i didn't try too hard to find it, just kept topping up), have decided to add a small reservoir to the mix.
Removed the radiator to drain the coolant some, and just happened to catch a few drips as i flexed the main inlet fitting.Made a mental note and pressed on anyway.
Didn't have much in the way of suitable containers for a rez(clear/low height/large diameter), but found a specimen jar i had lying about(see, those hospital visits are useful )
Added the rez to the top of the case, through one of the expansion slots and tee-ing into the pumps suction side.This meant two short hoses rather than one long one for the pump inlet, which helped as i could turn up the pumps flow rate to #3.
I also reseated the block.
Flared the copper tubes on the radiator at the inlet fitting slightly, for a better fit of the silicon hose, and hopefully no leaks.
Temps have dropped further again, probably due to the flow rate increase mostly.

15ish ambient
all fans on low
CPU idles approx 23/29C, Orthos 10 mins,CPU load 38/40C, PWM load 60C, NB load 45C




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fantastic!

although the leak is a bit of a worry!
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Old 14th July 2015, 3:40 PM   #10
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I keep coming back looking at this thread, why ???
I'm after a monster rad like this.........MO-RA3 420 LT black

http://shop.watercool.de/epages/Wate...iatoren/MO-RA3

But the stupid Aussie dollar is low to EUR. 230EUR shipped to Aussie $400 approx. FaKK that !!

Look in link top x2 core pics. Same theory as 3/4 core radiator.
Like the idea of pulling the radiator core from a Window Type Airconditioner & apply OP's method on it. As after a core say 30cm wide by 45cm high.

Thought's Rather spend $40 than $400 & fine to braze it myself
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Shane, there was a dude on here back in the day, Athilus or Mithicus or some shit but he used am old Morris Minor radiator. You really want a fucken engine in your computer if thats not MOARRAD enough bloke
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Don't laugh m8, I was scoping them $80 V6 commodore rads on Ebay

Alloy + Coolant FTW
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I keep coming back looking at this thread, why ???
I'm after a monster rad like this.........MO-RA3 420 LT black

http://shop.watercool.de/epages/Wate...iatoren/MO-RA3

But the stupid Aussie dollar is low to EUR. 230EUR shipped to Aussie $400 approx. FaKK that !!

Look in link top x2 core pics. Same theory as 3/4 core radiator.
Like the idea of pulling the radiator core from a Window Type Airconditioner & apply OP's method on it. As after a core say 30cm wide by 45cm high.

Thought's Rather spend $40 than $400 & fine to braze it myself
I've got one of these with the grills and floor stand and it's good, however Kommandant33 would be the bloke to talk to about a MO-RA. I know he's got one, but I think he went back to internal rads in a recent build? Drop him a line, good bloke
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Old 14th July 2015, 9:48 PM   #14
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shane,
AFAIK aircon coolers are generally not as good temp wise as heater core type, size for size.Maybe few degrees worse.
If you're looking at aircon units, you most likely want the condenser(the other half of a split system), not the evap bit i used, as the size might be better
These are the evaporator units i had to choose from
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This is awesome, nice work!
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