Internet Gateway...

eHound · 30th June 2001, 12:39 PM

I have a 2 comp LAN between my comp and my brothers, we share one dialup internet connection with a proxy. The problem is my comp has to be on for him to access the internet, of course, so i was thing of making/getting an old comp for an internet gate way.

What would you guys reccommend for hardware and software running the gate way? celeron 400?

catharsis · 30th June 2001, 1:15 PM

400MHz would be heaps, if you use linux. Some to check out are:

Smoothwall
Freesco
Linux Router Project
PicoBSD

There's many, many more.

Epoch · 30th June 2001, 2:02 PM

Hell, 120mhz is overkill for my linux server, and it's running DNS as well.

You can get away with pretty much any distribution (should be able to get a copy of Redhat 7/7.1/Debian at any newsagents for $15 or so), just read the IP-Masq tutorial at Linuxdocs and you're set.

Samdawg · 30th June 2001, 5:40 PM

Smoothwall will do all you want and is simple and straightforward.

I run it on a Pentium 75, 16mb ram etc has been up for about 65 days now without a hiccup. I use dial up with Dingoblue and its almost the perfect combination

Dr Kildare · 30th June 2001, 8:18 PM

I'm just running a P166@233MHz (MMX) as my server/router... Under W2K... & she only takes ~40 hours to crunch a SETI unit!

Iceman · 2nd July 2001, 4:12 PM

Ive tried most of the above, and ive been slightly dissapointed

I looked at LRP .. couldnt get my head around all the distros.. besides, I needed something I could transfer via floppy and didnt need compiling on an existing linux bos

hence I went with:
freesco
which is GOOD.. damn easy to setup.. but I found it had some stability issues.. various things from one NIC dieing (with TX RX errors) to things like Memory fault and odd messages appearing all over the screen.. trying to refresh a gamespy server list on a box connected through it was usually enough to bring the net down (but not the box)
I still use it.. reboot occasionally.. I cannot use it for lan parties.. its too unstable..

so I tried smoothwall.. apart from the dramas i had trying to get it to use the OTHER nic as the green interface (I ended up removing one for install) it only worked for a short amount of time before killing the green interface?!

most of this was on a p120 / 16mb

catharsis · 2nd July 2001, 4:48 PM

What kind of NIC is causing you grief with freesco? You may have to install the extra module from the freesco site, which i believe will enable support for other NICs. Although, it almost looks like you have hardware problems, considering you had issues with both freesco and smoothwall. Also, you might consider moving your freesco to your HDD, if possible, so you can enable some swap - although 16MB should be fine for most of the native freesco services. For what it's worth, my freesco was very stable over a period of 3 or 4 months, when i was running it with only 8MB of ram and an AMD ~100MHz. Don't be afraid to simply raw-write another floppy and start again, either

oh yeh, if you don't observe correct syntax when entering stuff into the setup program you can cause all types of really weird problems.

Also, make sure you check the log file, in /var/log - it might give you a clue as to whats up.

Iceman · 2nd July 2001, 4:54 PM

using a realtek 10mbit for net
and accton 100mbit for local (was the crappy SMC one that came with optus)

it IS running on my hdd, the smoothwall box was a seperate box (similar specs)

and I have reinstalled it many a time..

Samdawg · 2nd July 2001, 5:38 PM

I use Smoothwall on a dial up connection, I am not too sure how mature the cable/dsl support is. Never really looked into it.

But I got mine running first go and its been running flawless since. It serves it's purpose anyway

Mr Picolenie · 2nd July 2001, 5:40 PM

I believe gamespy is mentioned in chapter 7 of the IP-masq howto. Chapter 7 is here and they talk about the Gamespy problem in chapter 7.2. I think there may be a separate document that gives you a bit more detail converning the solution. I can't find it at the moment but the above should be a start.

driver · 2nd July 2001, 7:43 PM

Pentium 166, 64MB RAM, ~540MB HDD; if you want to run Windows NT 4.0 Server with WinRoute

Revenge · 2nd July 2001, 10:45 PM

I've got Smoothwall running on a P166 , Easiest thing I have ever installed and set up, just boot from the CD and follow the bouncing ball from there...

pyroteq · 3rd July 2001, 8:46 AM

'member to get a monitor and keyboard or if you plan to run windows maybe you could get a way with PC Anywhere and a UPS... (so you don't have to do headless reboots after every power outage)

driver · 3rd July 2001, 4:30 PM

My NT Server sits under the table...and i use a program called Remote Administrator This program is heaps faster than PC anywhere too, when being used over a LAN.

Samdawg · 3rd July 2001, 6:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pyroteq
'member to get a monitor and keyboard or if you plan to run windows maybe you could get a way with PC Anywhere and a UPS... (so you don't have to do headless reboots after every power outage)

That's a pain in the arse coz sometimes they dont come back up or prompt you for something. UPS's rock my world. The modem looses power in a blackout but the Smoothwall box simply redials the moment the modem powers back on.

30th June 2001, 12:39 PM	#1
eHound Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: South Australia Posts: 618	Internet Gateway... I have a 2 comp LAN between my comp and my brothers, we share one dialup internet connection with a proxy. The problem is my comp has to be on for him to access the internet, of course, so i was thing of making/getting an old comp for an internet gate way. What would you guys reccommend for hardware and software running the gate way? celeron 400?

30th June 2001, 8:18 PM	#5
Dr Kildare Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3,877	I'm just running a P166@233MHz (MMX) as my server/router... Under W2K... & she only takes ~40 hours to crunch a SETI unit! __________________ Notebook: Apple 15" MacBook Pro 2.4GHz (Penryn) File Server: Dell PowerEdge SC430 3.4GHz (Presler)

2nd July 2001, 4:12 PM	#6
Iceman Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane (nth), Australia Posts: 6,308	Ive tried most of the above, and ive been slightly dissapointed I looked at LRP .. couldnt get my head around all the distros.. besides, I needed something I could transfer via floppy and didnt need compiling on an existing linux bos hence I went with: freesco which is GOOD.. damn easy to setup.. but I found it had some stability issues.. various things from one NIC dieing (with TX RX errors) to things like Memory fault and odd messages appearing all over the screen.. trying to refresh a gamespy server list on a box connected through it was usually enough to bring the net down (but not the box) I still use it.. reboot occasionally.. I cannot use it for lan parties.. its too unstable.. so I tried smoothwall.. apart from the dramas i had trying to get it to use the OTHER nic as the green interface (I ended up removing one for install) it only worked for a short amount of time before killing the green interface?! most of this was on a p120 / 16mb __________________ _,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ WTB: Cisco 1801-M PM me Please rehash my posts and pass them off as your own ideas! Triple points for doing it in the same page of the thread. Plagiarism is the sincerest form of copyright infringement.

2nd July 2001, 4:48 PM	#7
catharsis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: North QLD Posts: 278	What kind of NIC is causing you grief with freesco? You may have to install the extra module from the freesco site, which i believe will enable support for other NICs. Although, it almost looks like you have hardware problems, considering you had issues with both freesco and smoothwall. Also, you might consider moving your freesco to your HDD, if possible, so you can enable some swap - although 16MB should be fine for most of the native freesco services. For what it's worth, my freesco was very stable over a period of 3 or 4 months, when i was running it with only 8MB of ram and an AMD ~100MHz. Don't be afraid to simply raw-write another floppy and start again, either oh yeh, if you don't observe correct syntax when entering stuff into the setup program you can cause all types of really weird problems. Also, make sure you check the log file, in /var/log - it might give you a clue as to whats up. Last edited by catharsis; 2nd July 2001 at 4:57 PM.

2nd July 2001, 4:54 PM	#8
Iceman Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane (nth), Australia Posts: 6,308	using a realtek 10mbit for net and accton 100mbit for local (was the crappy SMC one that came with optus) it IS running on my hdd, the smoothwall box was a seperate box (similar specs) and I have reinstalled it many a time.. __________________ _,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ WTB: Cisco 1801-M PM me Please rehash my posts and pass them off as your own ideas! Triple points for doing it in the same page of the thread. Plagiarism is the sincerest form of copyright infringement.

30th June 2001, 1:15 PM	#2
catharsis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: North QLD Posts: 278	400MHz would be heaps, if you use linux. Some to check out are: Smoothwall Freesco Linux Router Project PicoBSD There's many, many more.

30th June 2001, 2:02 PM	#3
Epoch 41p4x0r Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 760	Hell, 120mhz is overkill for my linux server, and it's running DNS as well. You can get away with pretty much any distribution (should be able to get a copy of Redhat 7/7.1/Debian at any newsagents for $15 or so), just read the IP-Masq tutorial at Linuxdocs and you're set.

30th June 2001, 5:40 PM	#4
Samdawg Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bendigo Posts: 376	Smoothwall will do all you want and is simple and straightforward. I run it on a Pentium 75, 16mb ram etc has been up for about 65 days now without a hiccup. I use dial up with Dingoblue and its almost the perfect combination

2nd July 2001, 5:38 PM	#9
Samdawg Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bendigo Posts: 376	I use Smoothwall on a dial up connection, I am not too sure how mature the cable/dsl support is. Never really looked into it. But I got mine running first go and its been running flawless since. It serves it's purpose anyway

2nd July 2001, 5:40 PM	#10
Mr Picolenie Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Perth Posts: 271	I believe gamespy is mentioned in chapter 7 of the IP-masq howto. Chapter 7 is here and they talk about the Gamespy problem in chapter 7.2. I think there may be a separate document that gives you a bit more detail converning the solution. I can't find it at the moment but the above should be a start. __________________ Signature: Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your posts.

2nd July 2001, 7:43 PM	#11
driver Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane - Northside Posts: 3,518	Pentium 166, 64MB RAM, ~540MB HDD; if you want to run Windows NT 4.0 Server with WinRoute

2nd July 2001, 10:45 PM	#12
Revenge Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Blaxland NSW Posts: 9,656	I've got Smoothwall running on a P166 , Easiest thing I have ever installed and set up, just boot from the CD and follow the bouncing ball from there... __________________ Voting for Tony Abbott because you don't like Julia Gillard, is like eating shit because you don't like spinach.

3rd July 2001, 8:46 AM	#13
pyroteq Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portland, VIC Posts: 97	'member to get a monitor and keyboard or if you plan to run windows maybe you could get a way with PC Anywhere and a UPS... (so you don't have to do headless reboots after every power outage)

3rd July 2001, 4:30 PM	#14
driver Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane - Northside Posts: 3,518	My NT Server sits under the table...and i use a program called Remote Administrator This program is heaps faster than PC anywhere too, when being used over a LAN.