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Old 26th March 2016, 10:04 AM   #1
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So this thing is official/real, seems like a bit of a dick move to all the people who are still trying to find more than a handful of games for the PS4 really? Can't say I'm impressed by this move. The PS4 is really only just at the front end of it's product cycle imo.

The only thing I can really think of is that they've looked at Apple with their shiny $1500 pocket computers that people throw out once they get dirty and thought - hey why can't we do that?


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So what do we know about the rumoured PlayStation 4.5? In the wake of last week's post-GDC outing of the hardware by Kotaku, we have independently established that it's real and that Sony's R&D labs have prototype devices, and we also have more than one source referring to it as PlayStation 4K, the name we'll be using for now. And this is where things become slightly strange - because while more GPU power is being offered to developers, realistically it is nowhere near enough to provide native 4K gaming at the same quality level as current 1080p titles. The full extent of the spec is a current focus of enquiry for us, but realistically, it is simply impossible to cram the equivalent of today's top-end PC graphics hardware into a console-sized, mass-market box.

Everything we've heard positions PlayStation 4K as a machine capable of playing current and next-generation ultra HD media, while also offering support for other aspects of the 4K spec, such as high-dynamic range and a wider colour gamut - aspects of the 4K spec that could be introduced to gaming. However, in terms of additional computational power, we've got be realistic about what Sony can deliver with a mid-generation refresh.

We can say that with some degree of certainty because PlayStation 4K will almost certainly use an evolved version of the APU technology used in the current console. Once again we will see semi-custom versions of AMD's CPU and GPU technology integrated into a single, console-friendly processor, and thanks to the firm's openness with its technology roadmaps, we have a good idea of the base building blocks Sony has access to in building its next PlayStation.

We also know about the fabrication technologies available. PlayStation 4 and Xbox One arrived when 28nm microprocessors were firmly established, and right now the industry is moving on to 14nm and 16nm chips using 3D 'FinFET' transistors. Shrinking transistors and innovative new architecture are what make generational leaps in computational power possible.

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Old 26th March 2016, 12:56 PM   #2
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I'm betting there is no additional horsepower in the thing and its just a PS4 capable of 4K output for 4K media. We'll see though. The idea of a mid generation hardware refresh boggles the mind.
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I'm betting there is no additional horsepower in the thing and its just a PS4 capable of 4K output for 4K media. We'll see though. The idea of a mid generation hardware refresh boggles the mind.


PS4 already can output 4K

just Sony hasn't enabled it for game content (pics & video only currently)

EDIT: mid-gen hardware refreshes have been happening for decades. Typically to take advantage of newer process tech that allows cost reduction. Not hard to foresee AMD engineering and providing a souped up APU that maintains backward compatibility (high level of hardware abstraction in current gen consoles).
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Old 26th March 2016, 1:29 PM   #4
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Why are people pissed off? Nothing changes with your current ps4
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Old 26th March 2016, 1:38 PM   #5
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Why are people pissed off? Nothing changes with your current ps4
No, but your resale value will..
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Old 26th March 2016, 2:12 PM   #6
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No, but your resale value will..
They usually always release a cheaper smaller console a few years after the original.. dont think it really changes anything
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Old 26th March 2016, 3:32 PM   #7
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Hows this any different to sony releasing a slim version?

Don't see what the big deal is about.
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Old 26th March 2016, 3:49 PM   #8
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Because it is not just the form factor... It also has added functionality apparently (4k support).
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Old 26th March 2016, 3:54 PM   #9
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Because it is not just the form factor... It also has added functionality apparently (4k support).
Thought current ps4's can output 4k already but the just dont have enough grunt for it, don't see how a new system will change that.
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As far as I knew there were issues with the PS4's HDMI port and UHD output, hence why they would release a PS4 4K. It is highly unlikely that games would play any different on this thing compared to the current PS4.

It would actually make a lot of sense for Sony to instead of releasing a new UHD bluray player, just revise the PS4 to support it and have it as an all in one media centre. Sony then dominates the living room exactly like what Microsoft feared at the turn of the century.

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Old 26th March 2016, 7:03 PM   #11
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They usually always release a cheaper smaller console a few years after the original.. dont think it really changes anything
they never get a spec bump other than storage realistically - talk is this one will actually be faster.

keeping in mind we've already had 1 revision of the device so far.
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Thought current ps4's can output 4k already but the just dont have enough grunt for it, don't see how a new system will change that.
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they never get a spec bump other than storage realistically - talk is this one will actually be faster.

keeping in mind we've already had 1 revision of the device so far.
Just sounds like upgrading to HDMI 2.0 along with UHD bluray player and media content, along with a shrink.
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Old 26th March 2016, 7:26 PM   #13
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Hows this any different to sony releasing a slim version?

Don't see what the big deal is about.
Speaking for every Sony console so far, the "slim" refreshes have done nothing with respect to functionality of the console and titles that would run on previous systems.

Obviously there's not concrete details yet, but if this new "PS4.5" comes out and offers titles that can't be played on a standard PS4, it'll mean current PS4 users will be forced to upgrade.

So to put it in actual terms:

* I bought a Playstation. Very first model (not the newer fat models, or the "PSone" slimmer models). It plays every Playstation game ever made.

* I bought a PS2 "Fat" first generation model (again, first gen/model, not a later model, not any of the multitude of slim models after it). It plays every single PS2 game ever made.

* I bought a PS3 "Slim" (second gen model, first slim, and there was another model after this). It plays every single PS3 game ever made.

* I bought a PS4 first gen model. Will it play games designed for the PS4.5? I don't know yet. I hope so.
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More to the point there's never been a console refresh that's been faster since the 32X and we all know how and why that existed there is no logical reason with the market dominance that Sony have for them to fragment their user base.
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More to the point there's never been a console refresh that's been faster since the 32X
Good example. Some consider the 32X to be the "beginning of the end" for Sega with respect to hardware. The thought is that it caused such a detriment to the company that it fractured Sega USA and Sega Japan relationships, which further soured throughout the Saturn and Dreamcast lifecycles.

Sony are on a high right now, "winning" the console race currently (sales numbers are way better than any of their competitors' platforms). They'd be playing a dangerous game to screw with that.
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