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Old 25th August 2017, 6:20 PM   #1
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Default Threadripper owners club

I expect i will be the only member..so pretty exclusive

Setup:

Amd Thread ripper 1950x
Asrock X399 Taichi
4x8 Gskill Flare X 3200 C14
Amd Radeon Vega 64 (xfx)
Samsung 850 evo 500 gig
Corsair H115i with 2 varder 2k fans running at 1200(usually)


and now a few 3900 benches
that is 3900
1.3 volts
llc3 (for 1.3 volts)







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Old 25th August 2017, 7:27 PM   #2
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I expect i will be the only member..so pretty exclusive
Not the only member, now there's 2 of us!

I've got:
Amd Thread ripper 1950x
MSI X399 Gaming
4x8 Gskill Flare X 3200 C14
Nvidia GTX 970
Samsung 850 evo 500 gig
Corsair H115i with 2 Noctua 1500rpm fans, running at 400rpm at idle and goes up to about 800rpm under full load.

Have you upped any voltages at stock speeds to get your ram running at 3200? I have the same ram as yours, but have had the pc freeze once and then not boot (until cleared CMOS) when I was running XMP 3200.

Edit: Don't know if XMP does it, but I manually upped the DRAM voltage to 1.35v. Seems to be stable so far at 3200.

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Old 27th August 2017, 8:53 AM   #3
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nope with the taichi its
go into the bios
manual
punch in 3900
punch in 1.25
change offset to llc 3 (i think that is different on other boards...it seems to be backwards llc 5 on this is 1 or off)
punch in xmp profile(only one there )
ups the volts to 1.35 and done

soooooo much easier than the ryzen was.

what kind of temps are you getting
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Old 27th August 2017, 7:10 PM   #4
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what kind of temps are you getting
Here are some screenshots of temps after running Prime95 stress test (Small FFT's) for a few hours. That is stock CPU speed with RAM at 3200 at 1.37v.

http://imgur.com/a/kIAKK

Die temp maxes out at about 62deg, with 1500rpm fans on the H115i only getting to 660rpm (CPU1 fan is the radiator fans).

There is a bug with this MSI X399 board too. On reboot, the system doesn't boot until you turn it off again or hit restart button 1 or 2 times, then it boots again. It's a bit of a pain. Others have the same issue. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=291025.0

It's annoying enough for me, I just ordered a Asus ROG Zenith board, may have it by the end of next week (ebay special again, over $100 cheaper after discount than other stores). I'll try and RMA the MSI if they haven't fixed it with a bios update by then.
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Old 27th August 2017, 8:09 PM   #5
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You can put me down for being a Threadripper owner, I'm just waiting for SL to be back in stock to get mine in and finish off my build

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Old 28th August 2017, 2:02 PM   #6
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TR 1950x
Asus RoG Zenith Extreme
3600C16
Dedicated open loop all EK.

This is my 2nd ever cinebench run, 4Ghz @ 1.35v. LLC doesn't work on the RoG board so I couldn't get a higher clock as I was getting vdroop to 1.32v. First run was 100% stock, 3040 CB15.

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Old 29th August 2017, 2:45 PM   #7
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Another owner here, hopefully complete the build this weekend.

1950X
ASUS Zenith Extreme
64GB GSkill TridentZ 3466 4 x 16GB - took a risk getting this over the flare but saw someone had done a review with the Trident
Samsung 960 EVO x 3

I'm holding out for a cheap Enermax full IHS AIO or the Noctua TR4 coolers but they are rarer than hens teeth - might have to go with an asetek. Will go custom loop in about a month after I knock out some work.

Good luck on your results, I'll be watching eagerly!


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You can put me down for being a Threadripper owner, I'm just waiting for SL to be back in stock to get mine in and finish off my build
Initially I was going to do the same, but figured if they are already binned at 2%, re-binning isn't going to give us much. Seems to be a cap at 4.2GHz...


Tarot - does your Corsair H115i work OK?
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Old 29th August 2017, 4:50 PM   #8
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Initially I was going to do the same, but figured if they are already binned at 2%, re-binning isn't going to give us much. Seems to be a cap at 4.2GHz...
This unfortunately isn't quite the case, of the two I know of there seems to be a solid 100-150mhz difference in achievable clock on identical hardware. If you're after guaranteed 4Ghz+ daily stable clocks I would recommend SL.

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Old 30th August 2017, 12:49 PM   #9
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Interesting - unfortunately I had to purchase already. Hopefully I have some good silicon...
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Old 30th August 2017, 1:22 PM   #10
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Im on a 1950x and Zenith Extreme with a pair of 1080ti's. Cooling is an EK TR4 block, two 1080ti FCWB's, d5 vario and two 480x60mm rads with 8xEK 2200rpm ER fans.

so far cinebench stable at 4050mhz @ 1.375v (vdroop 1.337v yeah boiiiiii) TR is definitly better binned than Ryzen - my 1700 tops out at 3.8ghz at the same voltage - I havnt spent much time overclocking as;

Its been fun so far to experiement with disabling:
- cores
- SMT
- dies
- local/distributed memory
- memory clocks (fabric clocks)

and any combination of the above.

with 32 threads and 16 cores to play with there is plenty to test and work out what is the optimal configuration.

Im using SLI, each 16x slot is connected to one die on the CPU meaning that any PCIe traffic between the cards must traverse the infinity fabric. Fast communication between GPU's is critical to achieving good SLI scaling - i'd hope the SLI bridge does most of this but at least in the case of xDMA the PCIe bus being fat as fuck is important in multi-gpu setups. Having cache/memory accessed across the same interconnect as the GPU's should have some impact on performance but I havnt yet measured it.

---

overclocking:

Ive experimented with very high voltages, up to 1.67v and the highest clocks ive managed to pass 3dmark at are 4125mhz - I have a 'theroy' that there is a 'curve' of stability where adding voltage adds stability, up to a point where thermal/current limits start to rock the boat in a very uncool way... but I am yet to properly test various voltages to find their max stable clocks. Im also not convinced LLC/current limit settings are working correclty on this board (yet...)

Intel XTU was great for showing throttling and I am yet to find something similar for AMD so working out why its not stable is like running around in the dark.

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memory:

I have 4x8gb d-die 3333cl16 - using 1.4v dram and 1.35v SOC I can post into windows on 3200mhz but memtest shows errors after a few mins. 2933mhz takes longer to show errros. 2800mhz is error free and ive been able to lower SOC to 1.25v (i havnt tried lower)

I have some 3600cl16 b-die on the way to test out.

ps: ill be selling the d-die once the b-die arrives
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Old 30th August 2017, 3:41 PM   #11
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the h115i is doing just fine
3.9 @ 1.25 and 3200 ram and after a few loops of real bench 71 was the highest it peaks most times it is around 65 topped out and runs 50/55 normal use games etc.
handbrake takes it to 65 at the upper limit.

from the *other forum* he is stalking me from ...

in regards to yur setup which is quite a bit more hardcore than mine with those cards....gamers mode*may* have more of a difference especially with sli.
but i still think no.

as for the ram....next i,m going to try 3466....crazy right i know but hey why not i,m pretty sure apart from that one instance of fail which could have been something else triggering it and still only running 1.35 volts i believe i can get there.
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ok lets begin
gamer vs creators mode


gamer vs creator
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13491201/fs/13491088


https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/2301822/spy/2301749

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13491238/fs/13491137

should be easy to figure out which is which...just look at the physics score.
gamers mode = slower

now games
ROTR
4k ultra settings vega 64 turbo mode no differences no tweaks same settings for both only difference is gamer v creator

gamers mode

MP avg 56 min 34 max 82
Syria avg 41 min 29 max 47.9
geo valley avg 39.7 min 33 max 47

avg score
46

creators mode

MP avg 57 min 28 max 104
Syria avg 40.7 min 32 max 48
geo valley avg 39 min 33 max 47 (no not a typo they are the same)

avg score
46 (same score)


shadows of mordor

gamers mode

avg 61
max 78
min 46

creators mode

avg 65
max 86
min 46


and there you go performs actually for the most part worse than creators mode.
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Old 31st August 2017, 9:35 AM   #12
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seems the 1900x has dropped
one store has it for $799 but i can see it being a little cheaper elsewhere that puts it squarely dollar for dollar against the 7820x(but saying that the boards are still around $100 dearer than intels)

http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/...q=threadripper

seems it has shown up at least 2 stores in stock.

no reviews yet...which is a bit weird.
i was asked to disable cores to emulate this but i really do not think that will give accurate results.

asrock fatality also seems to have dropped for around $749 not great not hideous still think the taichi is the best buy at the moment
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Intel XTU was great for showing throttling and I am yet to find something similar for AMD so working out why its not stable is like running around in the dark.
XTU is just running Prime95 after its 2 second "benchmark". So maybe use Prime95 (I think version 28.10 was the one...) for tests such as this. Also Maybe Timur Born's threads in the massive C6H thread on OCN about sense mi/sense skew/thermal shutdown/throttling on Ryzen maybe relevant.
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seems the 1900x has dropped
one store has it for $799 but i can see it being a little cheaper elsewhere that puts it squarely dollar for dollar against the 7820x(but saying that the boards are still around $100 dearer than intels)

http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/...q=threadripper

seems it has shown up at least 2 stores in stock.

no reviews yet...which is a bit weird.
i was asked to disable cores to emulate this but i really do not think that will give accurate results.

asrock fatality also seems to have dropped for around $749 not great not hideous still think the taichi is the best buy at the moment
Super interested to see some reviews.

The x399 motherboard prices are still pushing the overall cost of a 1900x system above the cost of a 7820x system. But you know... 28 pcie lanes... *spits*
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Old 31st August 2017, 1:58 PM   #15
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i know...right there is that dude with the 2 1080ti's and the 980ti...crammed into that case try that on a 299

i, m still tossing up how to cool this thing without going bankrupt
at the moment keeping it under 70 for normal heavy use isn't an issue but after looking at the other thread with the noctuas i decided to run prime 95...that's scary(small ffts) normal mode was a doddle.

i, m also tossing up on getting a nvme drive...the ssd runs just fine but ...i want the faster stuff now
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