Seagate SATA HDD problems

mendoza2002 · 12th February 2003, 3:34 AM

Has any one had the problem of trying to load an OS on a seagate 120GB SATA hard drive in a Epox MB?
Every time I try to load 2000 pro or XP pro on it ,it locks up at the format stage or while loading the OS.
If I do a dule boot and run it as a second Hard drive not a problem but as soon as I try to have it as a main drive on it's own...no go.
I have tested it with the seagate tools and it is fine.Not a thing wrong with it on all the test I give it.
It just will not boot with an OS on it.
Any one ever had this problem with the new SATA hard drives.
Or am I just unlucky.

mumblyjoe · 13th February 2003, 9:51 PM

I'm getting a SATA drive in about two weeks and I'll tell you if I have the same probs. Also are you using the onboard SATA controller? If so you could try a SATA card that fits in your PCI slot.

mendoza2002 · 15th February 2003, 2:20 PM

Thanks for your reply.
It was on board SATA.
I am getting a SATA PCI card to try out and see if it makes a diffrence.
Works well as a second HDD but

saba · 15th February 2003, 3:20 PM

Perhaps its the controllers being finicky?

When installing on a RAID, for example, you remove all drives from the system except the RAID ones. You install normally, and only then do you plug in the others.

Try something similar with the SATA drive.

AusTerror · 15th February 2003, 10:58 PM

so did anyone think that the HDD could be faulty?

i have had similar experiences with other HDDs and RAID

mendoza2002 · 16th February 2003, 9:37 AM

I thought that and tested it with seatools.There is nothen wrong with it.I even did an on line test with seagate.
It works just fine as a second HDD just not as a master with an OS on it.
Thats what has got me stumped.It runs at a good temp.
Nortons and the windows tools says it's fine too.
Unless I can prove that there is something wrong with the hard drive I can not return it for warranty.
Maybe it's just "the new hardware problem" not tested before released in to the wild.
They just can't hold it back before they let it lose on to unexpecting buyers.
Its allways the latest stuff out,the first of the belt that has to play up.Give them 3 to 6 months before you buy it and you don't have a problem,because all the worms have been takin out.Some other smuck has fell in to the trap for you and found the problem that the manufatures have missed.

I had a problem with the first 60G Hdd's that came out they ran at 65C and only lasted a week before they were dead.Even with a fan running on them they were HOT.
The new batch is as good as gold running around 28c to 44c with a fan.

(Sorry about the spelling mistakes)

It's good to know the problem before you buy,if someone alse has found out.
I just wish it wasn't me all the time.

saba · 16th February 2003, 3:46 PM

Didn't you hear me? Unplug the other drive and install onto the SATA drive only with the appropriate controller drivers. Only after windows has been installed do you plug in the extra drive.

mendoza2002 · 16th February 2003, 6:53 PM

I am not thick.
That was the first thing I tryed it still don't work.
Windows just don't like SATA HDD's.
I have tryed every trick in the book.
Someone needs to make a new book.

AusTerror · 17th February 2003, 3:21 AM

I have an old 80gb HDD, maxtor i think.

anyways it does not work as a boot drive, works just fine as a 2nd drive.

I have run many tools to check for errors and stuff and i have used many different OSs to repartition it and try to get things working.

I did fdisk /mbr and low level formats and win NT, Win2k Winxp formats, repartitions.

whenever its set as the boot drive it just does not boot. sure the OS will install on it, but when you do the reboot it just returns an error (i forget which).

And i have tried MANY different HDD controllers and hardware combos.

the bottom line with the drive i have is that it IS faulty, i figure there is something wrong with the boot sector and it does not work. apart from that it stors data fine.

but try telling that to a retail outlet for an RMA!

Draffa · 17th February 2003, 4:06 AM

Problem solved curteousy of APC:

Download and create a boot floppy of DiscWizard (found on the Seagate site). Partition and format the drive. Install windows.

Page 36 of the Feb 2003 edition.

12th February 2003, 3:34 AM	#1
mendoza2002 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 15	Seagate SATA HDD problems Has any one had the problem of trying to load an OS on a seagate 120GB SATA hard drive in a Epox MB? Every time I try to load 2000 pro or XP pro on it ,it locks up at the format stage or while loading the OS. If I do a dule boot and run it as a second Hard drive not a problem but as soon as I try to have it as a main drive on it's own...no go. I have tested it with the seagate tools and it is fine.Not a thing wrong with it on all the test I give it. It just will not boot with an OS on it. Any one ever had this problem with the new SATA hard drives. Or am I just unlucky. Last edited by mendoza2002; 12th February 2003 at 3:36 AM.

13th February 2003, 9:51 PM	#2
mumblyjoe Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 448	I'm getting a SATA drive in about two weeks and I'll tell you if I have the same probs. Also are you using the onboard SATA controller? If so you could try a SATA card that fits in your PCI slot. __________________ My Rig CPU: Intel Xeon W3520 @ 2.66MoBo: Gigabyte EX58-UD3R Memory: TeamXtreme 6GB DDR3 HDD: WD Raptor 150gb + Maxtor 200gb DVDRW: Lite-On SATA Sound: SB X-Fi XtremeMusic Graphics: Galaxy GTX260 on Acer 24" HD LED

15th February 2003, 3:20 PM	#4
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15th February 2003, 10:58 PM	#5
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16th February 2003, 3:46 PM	#7
saba Evil Vizier Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,711	Didn't you hear me? Unplug the other drive and install onto the SATA drive only with the appropriate controller drivers. Only after windows has been installed do you plug in the extra drive. __________________ i7 920 ; Asus P6T Deluxe ; 12Gb DDR3-1333 ; nVidia 260 GTX powering 230" LCDs ; 315k SAS RAID-0 and 5*1.5TB WD EARS RAID-5 on a Adaptec 5805 ; Windows 2008 Server and Gentoo Linux ; RME Fireface 800 56-channel 24bit/192kHz soundcard

15th February 2003, 2:20 PM	#3
mendoza2002 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 15	Thanks for your reply. It was on board SATA. I am getting a SATA PCI card to try out and see if it makes a diffrence. Works well as a second HDD but

16th February 2003, 9:37 AM	#6
mendoza2002 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 15	I thought that and tested it with seatools.There is nothen wrong with it.I even did an on line test with seagate. It works just fine as a second HDD just not as a master with an OS on it. Thats what has got me stumped.It runs at a good temp. Nortons and the windows tools says it's fine too. Unless I can prove that there is something wrong with the hard drive I can not return it for warranty. Maybe it's just "the new hardware problem" not tested before released in to the wild. They just can't hold it back before they let it lose on to unexpecting buyers. Its allways the latest stuff out,the first of the belt that has to play up.Give them 3 to 6 months before you buy it and you don't have a problem,because all the worms have been takin out.Some other smuck has fell in to the trap for you and found the problem that the manufatures have missed. I had a problem with the first 60G Hdd's that came out they ran at 65C and only lasted a week before they were dead.Even with a fan running on them they were HOT. The new batch is as good as gold running around 28c to 44c with a fan. (Sorry about the spelling mistakes) It's good to know the problem before you buy,if someone alse has found out. I just wish it wasn't me all the time.

16th February 2003, 6:53 PM	#8
mendoza2002 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 15	I am not thick. That was the first thing I tryed it still don't work. Windows just don't like SATA HDD's. I have tryed every trick in the book. Someone needs to make a new book.

17th February 2003, 3:21 AM	#9
AusTerror Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Canberra Posts: 751	I have an old 80gb HDD, maxtor i think. anyways it does not work as a boot drive, works just fine as a 2nd drive. I have run many tools to check for errors and stuff and i have used many different OSs to repartition it and try to get things working. I did fdisk /mbr and low level formats and win NT, Win2k Winxp formats, repartitions. whenever its set as the boot drive it just does not boot. sure the OS will install on it, but when you do the reboot it just returns an error (i forget which). And i have tried MANY different HDD controllers and hardware combos. the bottom line with the drive i have is that it IS faulty, i figure there is something wrong with the boot sector and it does not work. apart from that it stors data fine. but try telling that to a retail outlet for an RMA! __________________ Extreme Cooling Club Phase Change Member A64 X2 4400+/2805/1.45v/25c This corpse I'm Undressing Would be sexier I'm guessing If I only were a Goth

17th February 2003, 4:06 AM	#10
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