Why can't we get chips like this here !?

GreenBeret · 12th May 2003, 6:53 PM

I've seen plenty of threads like this from guys living overseas: Another happy DLT3C TBred-B owner . Those CPU's are going extinct soon

but the bad thing is only a handful of those ever reached Australia

Instead of those chips we're stuck with recent 2000+, 2100+ & 2200+ (well not really recent as some were made around week 40, 2002) that blow ! The 1700+'s we got earlier weren't very good either.

In the last 3-4 weeks I've tested 1x 1700+, 2x 2100+ and a 2000+ and all were struggling to reach 2.2GHz - the 2000+ was horrible: it needed 1.75 Vcore to do a Sandra bench at 2GHz so I threw it out instantly

Can anyone show me a reason why we didn't get many of DLT3C 1700+'s or 1800+'s ?

Any reason

Bravo · 12th May 2003, 6:56 PM

Population numbers. America has 10 times the amount of people we do, as does europe.

GreenBeret · 12th May 2003, 6:58 PM

Yeah, but they get thousands of those wonder chips, we get about......10 ?

I've only seen about 3 on OCAU. Not propotional :/

Bravo · 12th May 2003, 7:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GreenBeret
Yeah, but they get thousands of those wonder chips, we get about......10 ? I've only seen about 3 on OCAU. Not propotional :/

No idea there.

My latest processor was purchased from Chainbolt, who informs me it isnt a dud, and probably capable of 2.4gig @1.7v.

Domin8 · 12th May 2003, 7:13 PM

Yeah but also these new DLT3C chips get really hot at lower voltages apparently hence not being able to push them over 1.85v on air and getting really hot, well from what ive read and heard.

Domin8 · 12th May 2003, 7:15 PM

Also I joined up in this AUSFX computer forum similar to this and theres alot of guys from the states on there. One of the guys i know Perc, was able to get a DLT3C 1700 from one of the other guys in that forum who lives in the phillipines where amd make em

. They're running really well

.

UncleRes · 12th May 2003, 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GreenBeret
Yeah, but they get thousands of those wonder chips, we get about......10 ? I've only seen about 3 on OCAU. Not propotional :/

Well recently I suppose not but there has been the week 16 AGOIA's that seemed to originate from OCAU...

Anyway these chips are amazing, and at $120 for one that can outperform anything on the entire market, it was a good thing for Americans. Too bad we never saw them

PooJou · 12th May 2003, 8:21 PM

The DTLC chips are OEM no?

our distributors dont get OEM XP chips anymore - well not the big ones anyway
Maybe USA - due to pop. size can get OEM still

also AMD chips are made in malaysia last time i checked

Mjollnir · 12th May 2003, 8:29 PM

oh well, i asked u GB if u wanted my friend to bring back 2 from USA... but excaliberpc just wants too much for it

Domin8 · 12th May 2003, 8:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PooJou
The DTLC chips are OEM no?

our distributors dont get OEM XP chips anymore - well not the big ones anyway
Maybe USA - due to pop. size can get OEM still

also AMD chips are made in malaysia last time i checked

I think i meant malaysia PooJou

AssM@N · 12th May 2003, 8:48 PM

Fedaykin from atomic has a 1800+ which is doing 2.55 on air.......

DLT3C.....forgot week....

Bravo · 12th May 2003, 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AssM@N
Fedaykin from atomic has a 1800+ which is doing 2.55 on air.......

DLT3C.....forgot week....

Not stable i might add.

Just checking further, hes only listed his processor @ 2310mhz.

GreenBeret · 12th May 2003, 9:41 PM

Well yeah if the OC is unstable it doesn't mean anything. The OC results I mentioned in my opening post, same as every other OC result I've posted (unless specified), are stable ones.

Mattk · 12th May 2003, 9:48 PM

As in the past a distributer puts in a large order and AMD will manufacture the CPu .

The darn XP1700 has had production stopped twice now .

So I beleave that a distributer wanted XP1700 so AMD used what ever cores available , hence some overclock like crazzy and def voltage is 1.5 .

So dep on the dist , they may have nothing to do with Australia

So RIP XP1700 for the second time .

Some of these cpu's did make it here , but they may have been snapped up by oem builders before reaching retail levels .

I know that my local wholesaler had some , but they sold them all to a system builder . YEAH what a waste of good overclocking cpu's . If they were the 1.5volt ones .

Without OEM cpu's pre-testing is out , and no one is currently selling OEM in Australia , there all boxed cpu's .

So its back to luck of the draw , invest a few grand to find one good chip and hope that you can offload the rest without to large a loss .

MattK

AssM@N · 12th May 2003, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bravo
Not stable i might add.

Just checking further, hes only listed his processor @ 2310mhz.

that i don't know yet, i'll have to check

12th May 2003, 6:53 PM	#1
GreenBeret Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 16,871	Why can't we get chips like this here !? I've seen plenty of threads like this from guys living overseas: Another happy DLT3C TBred-B owner . Those CPU's are going extinct soon but the bad thing is only a handful of those ever reached Australia Instead of those chips we're stuck with recent 2000+, 2100+ & 2200+ (well not really recent as some were made around week 40, 2002) that blow ! The 1700+'s we got earlier weren't very good either. In the last 3-4 weeks I've tested 1x 1700+, 2x 2100+ and a 2000+ and all were struggling to reach 2.2GHz - the 2000+ was horrible: it needed 1.75 Vcore to do a Sandra bench at 2GHz so I threw it out instantly Can anyone show me a reason why we didn't get many of DLT3C 1700+'s or 1800+'s ? Any reason __________________ Doctore: Crixus! What is beneath your feet? Crixus: Sacred ground, Doctore. Watered with tears and blood.

12th May 2003, 6:58 PM	#3
GreenBeret Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 16,871	Yeah, but they get thousands of those wonder chips, we get about......10 ? I've only seen about 3 on OCAU. Not propotional :/ __________________ Doctore: Crixus! What is beneath your feet? Crixus: Sacred ground, Doctore. Watered with tears and blood.

12th May 2003, 7:13 PM	#5
Domin8 Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South West W.A. Posts: 1,270	Yeah but also these new DLT3C chips get really hot at lower voltages apparently hence not being able to push them over 1.85v on air and getting really hot, well from what ive read and heard. __________________ Camera: Canon EOS 40D Lenses:Canon 10-22mm, Canon 24-105 F/4L IS http://www.redbubble.com/people/stanislaw http://raynephotography.deviantart.com/ Last edited by Domin8; 12th May 2003 at 7:13 PM.

12th May 2003, 7:15 PM	#6
Domin8 Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South West W.A. Posts: 1,270	Also I joined up in this AUSFX computer forum similar to this and theres alot of guys from the states on there. One of the guys i know Perc, was able to get a DLT3C 1700 from one of the other guys in that forum who lives in the phillipines where amd make em . They're running really well . __________________ Camera: Canon EOS 40D Lenses:Canon 10-22mm, Canon 24-105 F/4L IS http://www.redbubble.com/people/stanislaw http://raynephotography.deviantart.com/

12th May 2003, 8:21 PM	#8
PooJou Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London Posts: 3,524	The DTLC chips are OEM no? our distributors dont get OEM XP chips anymore - well not the big ones anyway Maybe USA - due to pop. size can get OEM still also AMD chips are made in malaysia last time i checked __________________ \|Delta Goodrem is hot\| \|irc.oz.org #flora - full of erm...stuff :P\| \|SgS Voodoo CM9 -> Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10 \| \|ALO The PanAm -> Beyerdynamic DT770Pro\| \|Toyota Corolla RS-X\|

12th May 2003, 6:56 PM	#2
Bravo Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 10,051	Population numbers. America has 10 times the amount of people we do, as does europe.

12th May 2003, 8:29 PM	#9
Mjollnir Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, VIC3104 Posts: 5,879	oh well, i asked u GB if u wanted my friend to bring back 2 from USA... but excaliberpc just wants too much for it __________________ OCAU Extreme Cooling Club H2O / Phase Change Member

12th May 2003, 8:48 PM	#11
AssM@N Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NSW Posts: 2,443	Fedaykin from atomic has a 1800+ which is doing 2.55 on air....... DLT3C.....forgot week.... __________________ my GF is hot because I overclocked her total FAH points: 85 million

12th May 2003, 9:41 PM	#13
GreenBeret Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 16,871	Well yeah if the OC is unstable it doesn't mean anything. The OC results I mentioned in my opening post, same as every other OC result I've posted (unless specified), are stable ones. __________________ Doctore: Crixus! What is beneath your feet? Crixus: Sacred ground, Doctore. Watered with tears and blood.

12th May 2003, 9:48 PM	#14
Mattk Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,370	Orders As in the past a distributer puts in a large order and AMD will manufacture the CPu . The darn XP1700 has had production stopped twice now . So I beleave that a distributer wanted XP1700 so AMD used what ever cores available , hence some overclock like crazzy and def voltage is 1.5 . So dep on the dist , they may have nothing to do with Australia So RIP XP1700 for the second time . Some of these cpu's did make it here , but they may have been snapped up by oem builders before reaching retail levels . I know that my local wholesaler had some , but they sold them all to a system builder . YEAH what a waste of good overclocking cpu's . If they were the 1.5volt ones . Without OEM cpu's pre-testing is out , and no one is currently selling OEM in Australia , there all boxed cpu's . So its back to luck of the draw , invest a few grand to find one good chip and hope that you can offload the rest without to large a loss . MattK