Ghost

blimpyboy · 13th January 2002, 12:12 AM

If I ghost a 18 gig drive, is the ghost image 18 gig's? So I need another 18 gig drive to put it on?

davehole · 13th January 2002, 12:17 AM

not exactly, the ghost image is only the size of the content on the drive

ie. if u have used 6 GB of the 18GB then the image would only be 6GB but u do need another drive or CD-R burner to back it up to, you cant ghost an image of a drive to the same drive

assuming that you are using images and not disk to disk ghosting

PS. you can ghost onto different size drives, as long as there is enough space on the destination drive!!!

Hope that helps

Dave..........

Igneous · 13th January 2002, 12:18 AM

No, the Ghost image will be equal to the size of the data stored on that drive after compression, if you use it. If you only have 2G of data on the drive, you only need a drive that can hold 2G (at the most) to store it on.

blimpyboy · 13th January 2002, 3:03 AM

with ghosting an imaging to a CD, does it automatically ask for more CD's?

Also if you ghost a drive (and not just a partition) to an image, does the image contain the partition table? Ie if you restore the image to a different drive, but a drive of exactly the same brand/model, would the partition table on the destination drive be automatically altered to match the original drive?

Igneous · 13th January 2002, 3:16 AM

Yes (assuming Ghost supports your burner model) and yes. You can download the full manual for Ghost 2002 from Symantec here - it should be able to answer any other questions you have.

TerminalError · 13th January 2002, 4:22 PM

AND if ghost doesnt support your Burner....get PowerQuests Drive Image 5. (I would reccomend this) Ghost is a POS.

you just burn the files to CD with your own software.

davehole · 13th January 2002, 4:27 PM

Yes but if you use ghost then you dont have to have a second hard drive to write the image to, you can just write it directly to CD

And ghost supports my 12x SCSI Plextor so I am happy!!!

Simon · 13th January 2002, 4:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blimpyboy
If I ghost a 18 gig drive, is the ghost image 18 gig's? So I need another 18 gig drive to put it on?

You have an option to compress the the image as it's being created. Generally you will fit approx 900mb onto a 650mb cd using compression.

So if you have 2 gig of files to backup you will have approximately 2 , maybe 3 cd's or approx 1.5gig. I backed up a Winme/Win2k dual boot install onto 4 disks , total was around 3.6gig.

blimpyboy · 13th January 2002, 5:11 PM

OK. I doubt anyone knows this but I'll ask anyway:

When Ghost creates an ext2 partition, what blocksize and inode density does it use?

Igneous · 13th January 2002, 5:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blimpyboy
When Ghost creates an ext2 partition, what blocksize and inode density does it use?

I don't know if this will help or not, but... from the manual:-

Quote:

Norton Ghost clones any x86-based Linux system with full support for ext2 file systems (type 0x83) containing 1 KB, 2 KB, or 4 KB block sizes. Other file systems, for example, reiserfs, are cloned on a sector-by-sector basis and cannot be resized during cloning.

Linux systems that use LILO as their boot loader in the MBR or in the active ext2 partition are supported with some exceptions. Any references to a disk other than the first hard disk in the system (/dev/hda or /dev/sda) are not supported. The /boot and root file systems must be on the first hard disk. /boot can be a directory within the root file system.

Norton Ghost supports type 0 and type 1 Linux swap file systems (type 0x82).

Norton Ghost partially supports Linux extended partitions (type 0x85). It clones file systems inside these extended partitions, but restores them as DOS extended partitions. This is not known to cause problems with Linux systems after cloning.

You can also look at these links for more info on Linux support per distro/ghost build and general filesystem info. 1 and 2.

blimpyboy · 13th January 2002, 8:13 PM

Thanks for that.

Quote:

Originally posted by Igneous
I don't know if this will help or not, but... from the manual:-

You can also look at these links for more info on Linux support per distro/ghost build and general filesystem info. 1 and 2.

13th January 2002, 12:12 AM	#1
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13th January 2002, 3:03 AM	#4
blimpyboy Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 643	with ghosting an imaging to a CD, does it automatically ask for more CD's? Also if you ghost a drive (and not just a partition) to an image, does the image contain the partition table? Ie if you restore the image to a different drive, but a drive of exactly the same brand/model, would the partition table on the destination drive be automatically altered to match the original drive? __________________ Folding@Home 200 Club Member \| Folding@Home 3000 points Milestone Pimpsmack (Windows XP) : Intel Tualatin Celeron @ 1236Mhz \| Abit BX6 Rev 2 \| 512MB Memory @ 112Mhz/CAS2 Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 500 \| SoundBlaster Audigy \| IBM UltraStar 18ZX Hard Drive Plextor PX-40TS CD-ROM \| Plextor PX-R820T CD-R \| Pioneer DVD-103S DVD-ROM Foomanchu (Linux 2.4.20) : Intel Coppermine Celeron @ 1120Mhz \| Asus P2B-S \| 312MB Memory @ 112Mhz/CAS2 Nvidia Geforce2 MX 200 \| SoundBlaster AWE64 \| Seagate Barracuda ST39173L Hard Drive \| Plextor PX-32TS CD-ROM

13th January 2002, 4:22 PM	#6
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13th January 2002, 5:11 PM	#9
blimpyboy Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 643	OK. I doubt anyone knows this but I'll ask anyway: When Ghost creates an ext2 partition, what blocksize and inode density does it use? __________________ Folding@Home 200 Club Member \| Folding@Home 3000 points Milestone Pimpsmack (Windows XP) : Intel Tualatin Celeron @ 1236Mhz \| Abit BX6 Rev 2 \| 512MB Memory @ 112Mhz/CAS2 Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 500 \| SoundBlaster Audigy \| IBM UltraStar 18ZX Hard Drive Plextor PX-40TS CD-ROM \| Plextor PX-R820T CD-R \| Pioneer DVD-103S DVD-ROM Foomanchu (Linux 2.4.20) : Intel Coppermine Celeron @ 1120Mhz \| Asus P2B-S \| 312MB Memory @ 112Mhz/CAS2 Nvidia Geforce2 MX 200 \| SoundBlaster AWE64 \| Seagate Barracuda ST39173L Hard Drive \| Plextor PX-32TS CD-ROM

13th January 2002, 12:17 AM	#2
davehole Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 765	not exactly, the ghost image is only the size of the content on the drive ie. if u have used 6 GB of the 18GB then the image would only be 6GB but u do need another drive or CD-R burner to back it up to, you cant ghost an image of a drive to the same drive assuming that you are using images and not disk to disk ghosting PS. you can ghost onto different size drives, as long as there is enough space on the destination drive!!! Hope that helps Dave..........

13th January 2002, 12:18 AM	#3
Igneous Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 772	No, the Ghost image will be equal to the size of the data stored on that drive after compression, if you use it. If you only have 2G of data on the drive, you only need a drive that can hold 2G (at the most) to store it on.

13th January 2002, 3:16 AM	#5
Igneous Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 772	Yes (assuming Ghost supports your burner model) and yes. You can download the full manual for Ghost 2002 from Symantec here - it should be able to answer any other questions you have.

13th January 2002, 4:27 PM	#7
davehole Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 765	Yes but if you use ghost then you dont have to have a second hard drive to write the image to, you can just write it directly to CD And ghost supports my 12x SCSI Plextor so I am happy!!!