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Diskomatt · 2nd November 2003, 4:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Force
is any one running firebird on MAC OS X it would be pretty cool to see a screenshot of it.

I'm downloading it right now for you...

Most browsers just don't compare with safari on macos X, including firebird .6 - but i'll give .7 a shot, and post a screenshot.

Diskomatt · 2nd November 2003, 5:33 AM

Screenshot:

>>removed<<

Is there anything you'd like me to do to test it on mac osX?

Force · 2nd November 2003, 5:43 AM

Cool thanks for that Disko_matt.

how do you find Firebird in Mac os x is it a good browser?

Diskomatt · 2nd November 2003, 5:52 AM

It's ok... though i've only been using it for 10 minutes, so i really don't know.

Speed wise, it doesn't seem any faster than safari - but at the moment i've got several downloads and ftp uploads going, so i haven't tested it properly.

I'll get back to you later about it.

Force · 2nd November 2003, 5:58 AM

make sure you apply the tweaks hari has listed in the beginning of this thread.

NTBlowz · 2nd November 2003, 8:51 PM

Improve Firebird's scrolling: (kudos to rockman from FM for this tip)

Download superscroll from here

After installing, restart Firebird, then go to

tools->options->extensions->click on superscroll 1.3.
->then click on options-
>for directional scrolling, use custom and set the value to 100.
->for scroll wheel, change to custom settings and change the value to 10.

then on advance enable smooth scrolling.

Now the scrolling is almost as good as IEs

Hari · 2nd November 2003, 11:16 PM

I just go to about:config then change the following values and scrolling in Firebird is smooth as it is in IE.

general.smoothScroll = True

mousewheel.withnokey.numlines = 8

mousewheel.withnokey.sysnumlines = False

Force · 3rd November 2003, 7:15 AM

i think that all us firebird users should put some kind of message in our sigs to show our support for firebird.

you can use this if you want.

F**k The Rest Firebird is The Best!!!
OCAU Firebird Thread Link.

Diskomatt · 3rd November 2003, 10:09 AM

Ok. i'd say that firebird is faster on the mac, but not much faster than safari.
Mouse wheel scrolling isn't very enjoyable, even with the tweaks that have been posted here - but the way it uses it's cache is far better than the way safari does.

There doesn't seem to be an option to assign different actions to certain buttons. ie: i like to have a click on my mouse wheel open a link in a new tab. There doesn't seem to be this option in firebird.

So i've gotta say, it's a little faster than safari, and in my opinion not fast enough to convince me to switch to it. But it's earned itself some real estate on my dock, incase i find a page that safari wont load or something like that.

deepspring · 3rd November 2003, 10:20 AM

Nah...

I still prefer Opera as my default browser. So i "would" use somethin like:

F**k Micro$oft Internet Exploiter: Mozilla Firebird | Opera

Force · 3rd November 2003, 10:20 AM

thanks for the impressions matt.

you might like to try the firebird extensions they will add extra features to FB.

http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions

Force · 3rd November 2003, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by deepspring
Nah...

I still prefer Opera as my default browser. So i would use somethin like:

F**k Micro$oft Internet Exploiter: Mozilla Firebird | Opera

thats fine with me.

Diskomatt · 3rd November 2003, 11:03 AM

Actually, i'm still using it...

I like the speed of the pages it loads... You can see the page loading - and it doesn't stall anywhere like other browsers do. Wether that's a good net day or a firebird thing, i'll find out in time...

I don't like how it uses square buttons. on the mac, all push buttons appear in 'aqua' mode - even in internet explorer. But in firebird, they come out looking like windows 98 - which as a mac user, i've got to say is terrible.

I'm still *dying* here without that middle click=new tab option.

edit: there's heaps of small things that annoy me also... For example, when there are no windows open in the browser firbird doesn't quit like it does on a PC. There's no problem with that though, because most programs on mac don't quit when you close their windows. However, most programs will open a new window when you click on it's icon in the dock menu, whereas firebird doesn't. (i'm finding things like this all the time).

It stil is a good browser though, better than opera, camino, internet explorer, and netscape on mac. It's just got a few things taht need to be fixed before it'll become my main browser.

Hari · 3rd November 2003, 11:10 AM

Disko_matt go to about:config

Then find browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick and set it to true.

Diskomatt · 3rd November 2003, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hari
Disko_matt go to about:config

Then find browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick and set it to true.

umm... it is already by default.

2nd November 2003, 5:33 AM	#152
Diskomatt Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Radelaide Posts: 2,237	Screenshot: >>removed<< Is there anything you'd like me to do to test it on mac osX? __________________ mattro.org Last edited by Diskomatt; 12th November 2003 at 2:10 PM.

2nd November 2003, 5:52 AM	#154
Diskomatt Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Radelaide Posts: 2,237	It's ok... though i've only been using it for 10 minutes, so i really don't know. Speed wise, it doesn't seem any faster than safari - but at the moment i've got several downloads and ftp uploads going, so i haven't tested it properly. I'll get back to you later about it. __________________ mattro.org

2nd November 2003, 8:51 PM	#156
NTBlowz Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NZ Posts: 262	Improve Firebird's scrolling: (kudos to rockman from FM for this tip) Download superscroll from here After installing, restart Firebird, then go to tools->options->extensions->click on superscroll 1.3. ->then click on options- >for directional scrolling, use custom and set the value to 100. ->for scroll wheel, change to custom settings and change the value to 10. then on advance enable smooth scrolling. Now the scrolling is almost as good as IEs __________________ Proud owner of Tomy Project D Set ANTEC/CHIEFTEC CASE OWNERS/MODDERS MEMBER #114 Last edited by NTBlowz; 2nd November 2003 at 8:56 PM.

2nd November 2003, 11:16 PM	#157
Hari Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,583	I just go to about:config then change the following values and scrolling in Firebird is smooth as it is in IE. general.smoothScroll = True mousewheel.withnokey.numlines = 8 mousewheel.withnokey.sysnumlines = False __________________ Mozilla FIREFOX: A Lean, Mean Browsing Machine. CLICK HERE

3rd November 2003, 10:09 AM	#159
Diskomatt Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Radelaide Posts: 2,237	Ok. i'd say that firebird is faster on the mac, but not much faster than safari. Mouse wheel scrolling isn't very enjoyable, even with the tweaks that have been posted here - but the way it uses it's cache is far better than the way safari does. There doesn't seem to be an option to assign different actions to certain buttons. ie: i like to have a click on my mouse wheel open a link in a new tab. There doesn't seem to be this option in firebird. So i've gotta say, it's a little faster than safari, and in my opinion not fast enough to convince me to switch to it. But it's earned itself some real estate on my dock, incase i find a page that safari wont load or something like that. __________________ mattro.org

2nd November 2003, 5:43 AM	#153
Force Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Australia. Posts: 1,028	Cool thanks for that Disko_matt. how do you find Firebird in Mac os x is it a good browser?

2nd November 2003, 5:58 AM	#155
Force Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Australia. Posts: 1,028	make sure you apply the tweaks hari has listed in the beginning of this thread.

3rd November 2003, 7:15 AM	#158
Force Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Australia. Posts: 1,028	i think that all us firebird users should put some kind of message in our sigs to show our support for firebird. you can use this if you want. Fk The Rest Firebird is The Best!!!** OCAU Firebird Thread Link.

3rd November 2003, 10:20 AM	#160
deepspring Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No Where Posts: 3,244	Nah... I still prefer Opera as my default browser. So i "would" use somethin like: Fk Micro$oft Internet Exploiter:** Mozilla Firebird \| Opera Last edited by deepspring; 3rd November 2003 at 10:28 AM.

3rd November 2003, 10:20 AM	#161
Force Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Australia. Posts: 1,028	thanks for the impressions matt. you might like to try the firebird extensions they will add extra features to FB. http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions

3rd November 2003, 11:03 AM	#163
Diskomatt Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Radelaide Posts: 2,237	Actually, i'm still using it... I like the speed of the pages it loads... You can see the page loading - and it doesn't stall anywhere like other browsers do. Wether that's a good net day or a firebird thing, i'll find out in time... I don't like how it uses square buttons. on the mac, all push buttons appear in 'aqua' mode - even in internet explorer. But in firebird, they come out looking like windows 98 - which as a mac user, i've got to say is terrible. I'm still dying here without that middle click=new tab option. edit: there's heaps of small things that annoy me also... For example, when there are no windows open in the browser firbird doesn't quit like it does on a PC. There's no problem with that though, because most programs on mac don't quit when you close their windows. However, most programs will open a new window when you click on it's icon in the dock menu, whereas firebird doesn't. (i'm finding things like this all the time). It stil is a good browser though, better than opera, camino, internet explorer, and netscape on mac. It's just got a few things taht need to be fixed before it'll become my main browser. __________________ mattro.org Last edited by Diskomatt; 3rd November 2003 at 11:12 AM.

3rd November 2003, 11:10 AM	#164
Hari Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,583	Disko_matt go to about:config Then find browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick and set it to true. __________________ Mozilla FIREFOX: A Lean, Mean Browsing Machine. CLICK HERE Last edited by Hari; 3rd November 2003 at 11:13 AM.