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Hari · 22nd October 2003, 3:07 PM

The only extension I use is.

Copy Image. Download Here

Sephir0th · 22nd October 2003, 4:31 PM

hmm another problem... Trying to access the folding stats on statsman

it says i need java plugin so im like ok, went to install it n everything and even after installing it, it still wont let me view the stats.....

Hari · 22nd October 2003, 5:11 PM

I use Java VM v1.4.1.05 as I find that it works best with Firebird.

Select J2SE v 1.4.1_05
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html

Tenoq · 22nd October 2003, 7:21 PM

I was a little dubious when I first loaded Firebird: it didn't seem to load much quicker than IE, and pages were definitely slower.

Now I've tried the optimised build (and it doesn't seem to load any quicker, perhaps even slower). After tweaking a whole bunch of settings... the thing runs like a dream... even marginally quicker than IE. I think I'm a new convert

Only downside I can see for slower systems is that it is using 50+MB of RAM currently, with only three windows open. Hmm.

Sephir0th · 22nd October 2003, 8:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hari
I use Java VM v1.4.1.05 as I find that it works best with Firebird.

Select J2SE v 1.4.1_05
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html

cheers mate, but it still seems slower than IE..ohwell cant win them all, its still a better browser than IE so far

Bone · 22nd October 2003, 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tenoq
Only downside I can see for slower systems is that it is using 50+MB of RAM currently, with only three windows open. Hmm.

hmm...Mine runs 3 windows with 5+ tabs each and using only 35mb of ram.

nexx · 22nd October 2003, 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bone
Yes thats the only problem with Mozilla based browsers (netscape, firebird...). Something to do with VBulletein boards i think?

I have made my own fix for this problem:
place this in your userchrome.css (http://texturizer.net/firebird/edit.html#css)

Code:

/* Makes vBulliten Post/reply message boxes wider - as they are in IE */
textarea[name="message"][rows="20"][cols="40"][wrap="virtual"][tabindex="2"],
textarea[name="message"][rows="7"][cols="40"][wrap="virtual"][tabindex="1"] {
    width                      : 420px !important;
}

Hari · 22nd October 2003, 9:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tenoq

Only downside I can see for slower systems is that it is using 50+MB of RAM currently, with only three windows open. Hmm.

Internet Explorer uses a lot more memory then Firebird on my PC.

Firebird with 3 Tabs open = 15,608K Peak Memory Usage.

Internet Explorer with 3 windows open = 47,392K Peak Memory Usage.

SchRAMBO · 22nd October 2003, 9:33 PM

I think that would be because your puters have to run all he files that involve IE to run x ammount more. where as in FB or any other Tabbed browsing, it doesn't need it.

we can probally expect to see tabbed browsing in the next installment of IE I guess.. thats if ms catch on

Force · 22nd October 2003, 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nexx
I have made my own fix for this problem:
place this in your userchrome.css (http://texturizer.net/firebird/edit.html#css)

Code:

/* Makes vBulliten Post/reply message boxes wider - as they are in IE */ textarea[name="message"][rows="20"][cols="40"][wrap="virtual"][tabindex="2"], textarea[name="message"][rows="7"][cols="40"][wrap="virtual"][tabindex="1"] { width : 420px !important; }

this does not work nexx.....

Quote:

Originally posted by Tenoq
Only downside I can see for slower systems is that it is using 50+MB of RAM currently, with only three windows open. Hmm.

firebird for me only uses about 14MB with 3 tabs open.

which is less then ie6 which is a fat ass pig when it comes to memory.

Force · 22nd October 2003, 9:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SchRAMBO
I think that would be because your puters have to run all he files that involve IE to run x ammount more. where as in FB or any other Tabbed browsing, it doesn't need it.

we can probally expect to see tabbed browsing in the next installment of IE I guess.. thats if ms catch on

the next ie will only be available for longhorn so unless you upgrade no new ie for you.

anyway by the time longhorn comes out firebird will be better, stronger, faster.

Quote:

Host: Brian (Microsoft)
Q: when / will there be the next version of IE?

A: As part of the OS, IE will continue to evolve, but there will be no future standalone installations. IE6 SP1 is the final standalone installation.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tre.../ie/ie0507.asp

Bone · 22nd October 2003, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nexx

Code:

/* Makes vBulliten Post/reply message boxes wider - as they are in IE */ textarea[name="message"][rows="20"][cols="40"][wrap="virtual"][tabindex="2"], textarea[name="message"][rows="7"][cols="40"][wrap="virtual"][tabindex="1"] { width : 420px !important; }

When I load firebird, I now get "syntax error: illegal character ÿb/"

edit: Some where in the message, it also states that the error is in the user.js file.

congoh · 23rd October 2003, 2:43 AM

I just installed FB0.7(optimised for P3) over FB0.6. Some problems.
I had absolutely no problems with FB0.6.

1. I can't go to any site. Whatever URL I type in doesn't make the browser go to that site. However, if I choose ones in my bookmark it seeks the site and displays them ok. Any idea how to fix this?

2. With 3 tabs, mine is chewing up 45mb of mem. Any ideas on how to tweak this?

Thanks for the help.

Force · 23rd October 2003, 5:58 AM

wait wait you deleted the old firebird and its profiles right congoh?

bioxeed · 23rd October 2003, 9:22 AM

I have no probs with keep old profiles but you HAVE to delete the old firebird install before installing the new one. Just delete all files and directories in teh MozillaFirebird directory and unzip the new stuff there and away i go

As for speed.. IE has NOTHING on firebird for rendering speed imo. load times are in favour of IE on the machines i've used firebird on.. but the extra couple of seconds (if that) it takes to load firebird is well worth the HUGE increase in rendering performance. Not to mention it handles CSS2 correctly unlike IE.

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23rd October 2003, 9:22 AM	#90
bioxeed Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Acid Lab Posts: 3,308	I have no probs with keep old profiles but you HAVE to delete the old firebird install before installing the new one. Just delete all files and directories in teh MozillaFirebird directory and unzip the new stuff there and away i go As for speed.. IE has NOTHING on firebird for rendering speed imo. load times are in favour of IE on the machines i've used firebird on.. but the extra couple of seconds (if that) it takes to load firebird is well worth the HUGE increase in rendering performance. Not to mention it handles CSS2 correctly unlike IE. __________________ http://bioxeed.org - hard techno and such Dystopia - Jack In. Kick Arse. Ouches - "I don't care if the headphones look like 2 cane toads stapled to my head as long as they do the business"

22nd October 2003, 4:31 PM	#77
Sephir0th Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,355	hmm another problem... Trying to access the folding stats on statsman it says i need java plugin so im like ok, went to install it n everything and even after installing it, it still wont let me view the stats.....

22nd October 2003, 7:21 PM	#79
Tenoq Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3,673	I was a little dubious when I first loaded Firebird: it didn't seem to load much quicker than IE, and pages were definitely slower. Now I've tried the optimised build (and it doesn't seem to load any quicker, perhaps even slower). After tweaking a whole bunch of settings... the thing runs like a dream... even marginally quicker than IE. I think I'm a new convert Only downside I can see for slower systems is that it is using 50+MB of RAM currently, with only three windows open. Hmm.

23rd October 2003, 5:58 AM	#89
Force Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Australia. Posts: 1,028	wait wait you deleted the old firebird and its profiles right congoh?