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Konqueror SUCKS! Alternative File Managers?

Discussion in 'Other Operating Systems' started by xsive, Dec 13, 2003.

  1. xsive

    xsive Member

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    I just lost 8gb of data thanks to Konqueror.
    I was moving files from one parition to another and told it to auto-skip files it was having problems with (bad naming) thinking I'd go back later and manually fix the culprits.

    Its copied ~12GB before encountering a problem, when it promptly stopped and discarded the remainder of the files.
    Gone.
    All Gone.

    I'm so pissed off.
    Are there any robust file managers?
    I hate to say it, but I miss Explorer :(
     
  2. firebug.d:D

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    there is nautilius but pref xterm :p
     
  3. Iroquois

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  4. elvis

    elvis OCAU's most famous and arrogant know-it-all

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    copy. check. delete.

    never move. lesson learned.

    as far as file managers go, i really like XFFM (the default XFCE4 file manager). it also does some neat SMB/CIFS browsing which is nice if youve got windows machines on the network.
     
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  5. Quadbox

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    A second vote for XFFM.

    If, however, you prefer a norton-commander school filemanager, check out Gentoo, XNC, MC, etc.

    But honestly, how many tasks are there where it's not much much faster to do it in a terminal? Bash is very powerful. Let it do the work for you.
     
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  6. FrIdGe

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    If you're looking for an explorer-like interface then give xfe a go. I haven't used most of the others that everyone has mentioned (i just use the horrid gnome one), but anyone could use xfe it's that similar to explorer. Uses almost no libraries and compiles very small also.

    Get it at http://sourceforge.net/projects/xfe . The homepage doesn't work for me at the moment.
     
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  9. [aE]-brent

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    There's Krusader if you want something in the KDE vein.
     
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    xsive

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    Thanks for all the wonderful suggestions everyone. :)
    I'll be sure to check out each one in my quest to make my desktop Konq free!
     
  11. gone_bush

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    Can I just add my 1 cents worth?

    xsive: I think that you should blame yourself for your data loss.

    elvis got is (almost) correct. If your going to mess with your data BACK IT UP. If you think that that will take too long, then the data is not worth that much to you!

    If this is you first data loss then I feel sorry for you. If it isn't - fool!.

    Learn from you mistake. Yes, it was costly, put so are the fees of the University Of Adversity!

    But, if you haven't turned off and directed your efforts to flaming me - next time you try this I think you can save a _lot_ of time. Don't use a GUI. Konqueror seems to do a prepass of the copy / move so that it can give you a nice progress window. Meaning that it will take you (almost) twice as long to perform the copy / move. Learn to use 'cp' and 'mv' - it will save you a _lot_ of time if you're moving shit-loads of data.

    OK xsive, so this is a sharp reply to you cry of anguish. But guess how I learned my lesson? :(

    Remember, everyone makes mistakes, Only a fool makes the same one twice!
     
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    xsive

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    Firstly, I'm not exactly new to CLIs or Linux.
    I know very well how to mv and cp.
    Having said that, just because I *can* use the CLI doesn't mean I always want to.
    Having a manual alternative doesn't excuse a piece of critical integrated software from being buggy as hell and causing massive data loss from a simple move operation.
    If Microsoft can get it right, how hard can it be?

    Don't take this the wrong way. I appreciate the suggestion (mv is after all an alternative ;)) but I don't think the critique was necessary.
     
  13. 7nothing

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    Ah linux, it tries so hard to stand apart from windows while ripping it off, bit it always ends up less usable.
     
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  14. muzzi

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    -5; troll.
     
  15. 7nothing

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    Bah, sure it's good for services, but as soon as you run X, linux loses its advantage.
     
  16. [aE]-brent

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    muzzi just ignore him.
     
  17. muzzi

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    Done :)
     
  18. AndyFitz

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    XFCE has an okay one

    i prefer nautlilus


    however..
    has anyone used nautilus 2.5.1 unstable ?

    its awful. i think designed to be fast.. .. either way it has none of the features i love about nautilus 2.4.1




    d00d im a heavy gnome user.. and its more than just a server nowadays .

    gaim = msn no ads more usable features ( like spellchecking auto correct and seeing when the other user closes their window on you :p )

    gimp. windows version doesnt cut it in comparison to native gtk and noice-as themes

    OOo - ximian edition is more intuative than ms offce aps .. i cannot stress that enough

    evolution - way better client for ms exchange. more accessable etc

    xine/totem - omfg i cant begin to say how long libxine has been able to play MOV files nativley before mediaplayer was finally able to support them

    i havent had dataloss. ive never been hacked or attacked with a virus . i dont have paranoid settings and i rarely use terminal (*ducks head* some view this is a bad thing )

    so in my defense .. i do use anjuta to make simple gtk apps that do terminal functions for me :-D


    viva la desktop
     
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  19. gone_bush

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    xsive,

    I wan't 'having a go at you' at such. I've been in this industry a long time and the one thing that _really_ shits me is that the even a lot of big organisations don't have a good backup strategy. The normal mug home user has even a less idea of data security - if that's possible.

    My comments were directed to people who do not value their data enough to save it and then whinge when it is destroyed.

    My apologies for undrestimating you CLI abilities - it was not my intention to do so.

    So, with apologies:

    Jesus and Satan have an argument as to who is the better programmer. This goes on for a few hours until they agree to hold a contest with God as the judge.

    They set themselves before their computers and begin. They type furiously for several hours, lines of code streaming up the screen.

    Seconds before the end of the competition, a bolt of lightning strikes, taking out the electricity. Moments later, the power is restored, and God announces that the contest is over.

    He asks Satan to show what he has come up with. Satan is visibly upset, and cries, "I have nothing! I lost it all when the power went out."

    "Very well, then," says God, "let us see if Jesus fared any better."

    Jesus enters a command, and the screen comes to life in vivid display, the voices of an angelic choir pour forth from the speakers.

    Satan is astonished. He stutters, "But how?! I lost everything, yet Jesus' program is intact! How did he do it?"

    God chuckles, "Jesus saves."
     
  20. hast

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    Haha. Gnome is crap, and the corporate world will never embrace KDE with its viral license.
     

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