My 1200JB just died! :(:(:(

Sephir0th · 31st December 2003, 2:40 PM

Drive started making a clicking sound then this message popped up and is in the error log with about 50 other system errors to do with the hdd

Application popup: Windows - Delayed Write Failed : Windows was unable to save all the data for the file E:\$Mft. The data has been lost. This error may be caused by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to save this file elsewhere.

I turned the comp off, the back on and in ide detection in bios the harddrive kept making the start up sound that harddrives make (dunno how else to describe it) but wouldnt stop making it. Then ide detection showed it as a WD800BB (as in 80gb 2mb cache) so i dont know what the fuck happened but i do know i lost about 100gb of data.

EDIT: This isnt my main drive obviously

if i organise an RMA for this drive, would the data be non recoverable? because there is confidential things on this drive and i dont really wish someone else to see them

l00b3r · 1st January 2004, 1:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sephir0th
Drive started making a clicking sound then this message popped up and is in the error log with about 50 other system errors to do with the hdd

Application popup: Windows - Delayed Write Failed : Windows was unable to save all the data for the file E:\$Mft. The data has been lost. This error may be caused by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to save this file elsewhere.

I turned the comp off, the back on and in ide detection in bios the harddrive kept making the start up sound that harddrives make (dunno how else to describe it) but wouldnt stop making it. Then ide detection showed it as a WD800BB (as in 80gb 2mb cache) so i dont know what the fuck happened but i do know i lost about 100gb of data.

EDIT: This isnt my main drive obviously

if i organise an RMA for this drive, would the data be non recoverable? because there is confidential things on this drive and i dont really wish someone else to see them

if you want it recovered then they may be able to do it.

confidnetial, this isnt one of those sico porn trips people have :P (jk), i had a similar thing when my Maxtor died a year or 2 ago, we got most of the info from it, the confodential stuff i wanted i could have, go figure.

-Matt

Bravo · 1st January 2004, 2:02 AM

Dont RMA the HDD if your worried. Personally, i've never had any issues with somebody looking at the contents of a repaired drive that i've owned.

commando · 1st January 2004, 9:53 AM

Bit of an off topic question; but was the hdd kept cool ?

thedude · 1st January 2004, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sephir0th
If i organise an RMA for this drive, would the data be non recoverable? because there is confidential things on this drive and i dont really wish someone else to see them

You wont get your HDD back if it fails the DFT.
Generally there sent back to WD and theyll try to reapair them or use them for spare parts.
Any info on the drive is usless to a supplier or the manufactuer.

There's really no need to worry unless you have child pornography.
Then I would hunt you down myself.

pyr0x · 1st January 2004, 12:59 PM

I'd zero fill (sorta low level format) the drive first, to be sure :-)

saba · 1st January 2004, 1:30 PM

Afaik, when you RMA a drive, they usually just throw your drive into a bin (maybe destined for the smelter to be melted back down), and send you a new/reconditioned drive?

kr0k · 1st January 2004, 5:59 PM

run a bigass magnet over it?
the drives are normally repaired
ie the faulty part is removed and replaced with a new working part, that drive is then prepared to be used as a warranty replacement or "Servicable used part" thingo that IBM had

Sephir0th · 1st January 2004, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pyr0x
I'd zero fill (sorta low level format) the drive first, to be sure :-)

A bit hard when i cant actually get past bios booting screen when this drive is connected, its physically unuseable at the moment so it would either need to be replaced or repaired.

And no i dont have child pornography on it

if i did id happily let you all hunt me down.

aza2001 · 4th January 2004, 12:43 AM

same kinda thing happened with my 20GIG Fujitzu drive was not happy, tried everything, bios picks it up, didnt want 2 boot, not noises or anything

oh well all good things come 2 an end

bow$er · 6th January 2004, 5:34 PM

the fuji 20gig's were renowned for that problem aza2001. The hard drive controller is rooted. If you have another fujitsu drive just unscrew the controller component and fit it on the stuffed drive. Works a treat, i've had about 150 die at work!

MarkWasabi · 6th January 2004, 5:45 PM

Great, I just ordered one of those exact drives. Have there been alot of problems with them? I've been running a 800JB for quite a while now and had no problems at all, which is why I chose the same one in 120 gig. Usually I read everything I can about something before I buy it, but I figured its little brother had served me so well I didn't need to worry.

So has anyone heard of many problems with that particular hard drive?

Bassy_blue · 7th January 2004, 3:53 AM

I had the exact same thing happen with one of my 1200JBs. Nothing I tried for ages could boot properly with the HD attached.
Turns out that the Master File Table was the cause.
I had almost given up and was going to format/repartition the drive for a test install of Mandrake 9.1
I got thru the bootable loadup in mandrake and came to the partitioning section before the actual install starts. Their is an option there to recover a partition. Used that and it restored the Master File Table on the drive. Recovered every single bit of data on there. (note this was a NTFS partition).

bow$er · 7th January 2004, 10:07 AM

I've been running a WD 120JB for over 6 months with no hassles MarkWasabi. From all reports I've seen there an excellent drive.
I had a WD 40 gig JB die on me after 5 days. That's rare but it does happen. I find it's a good idea to install speedfan when you first purchase a HDD and check it's status in the SMART health area. The drives that have died on me normally have indicated a problem there beforehand. Off the shelf the wd 40jb showed a health status of 25%. Not good

MarkWasabi · 7th January 2004, 10:24 AM

Yeah, I had a look over at storagereview.com and it looks like they're an excellent drive in terms of performance, and the reliability survey (requires registration) gives the impression that they're pretty reliable.

And thanks for mentioning Speedfan. I'd never heard of it (or if I had I hadn't taken any notice of it). I hadn't found a program that could give me that much info on my HDD. One question though - is it able to get the HDD temperature? I haven't been able to get it off MBM5, and I thought Speedfan may be able to. It lists a whole lot of temps but it's hard to tell which is which.

31st December 2003, 2:40 PM	#1
Sephir0th Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,355	My 1200JB just died! :(:(:( Drive started making a clicking sound then this message popped up and is in the error log with about 50 other system errors to do with the hdd Application popup: Windows - Delayed Write Failed : Windows was unable to save all the data for the file E:\$Mft. The data has been lost. This error may be caused by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to save this file elsewhere. I turned the comp off, the back on and in ide detection in bios the harddrive kept making the start up sound that harddrives make (dunno how else to describe it) but wouldnt stop making it. Then ide detection showed it as a WD800BB (as in 80gb 2mb cache) so i dont know what the fuck happened but i do know i lost about 100gb of data. EDIT: This isnt my main drive obviously if i organise an RMA for this drive, would the data be non recoverable? because there is confidential things on this drive and i dont really wish someone else to see them Last edited by Sephir0th; 31st December 2003 at 3:24 PM.

1st January 2004, 9:53 AM	#4
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4th January 2004, 12:43 AM	#10
aza2001 Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Northmead Posts: 1,912	same kinda thing happened with my 20GIG Fujitzu drive was not happy, tried everything, bios picks it up, didnt want 2 boot, not noises or anything oh well all good things come 2 an end __________________ [Shuttle Owners Club Member #2 Shuttle: SN25P] [Apple Mac Owners Club Member & Founder #1 Mac & Spec's: G5 1.6, 200 & 80GIG HDD 1GIG RAM] Do u think that my video card or my CPU has anything to do with my ping times, in this place? http://www.duk0r.net/matrix/matrix8.php

1st January 2004, 2:02 AM	#3
Bravo Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 10,051	Dont RMA the HDD if your worried. Personally, i've never had any issues with somebody looking at the contents of a repaired drive that i've owned.

1st January 2004, 12:59 PM	#6
pyr0x Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,637	I'd zero fill (sorta low level format) the drive first, to be sure :-)

6th January 2004, 5:34 PM	#11
bow$er Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Glenelg, SA Posts: 31	the fuji 20gig's were renowned for that problem aza2001. The hard drive controller is rooted. If you have another fujitsu drive just unscrew the controller component and fit it on the stuffed drive. Works a treat, i've had about 150 die at work!

6th January 2004, 5:45 PM	#12
MarkWasabi Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 135	Great, I just ordered one of those exact drives. Have there been alot of problems with them? I've been running a 800JB for quite a while now and had no problems at all, which is why I chose the same one in 120 gig. Usually I read everything I can about something before I buy it, but I figured its little brother had served me so well I didn't need to worry. So has anyone heard of many problems with that particular hard drive?

7th January 2004, 3:53 AM	#13
Bassy_blue Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8	I had the exact same thing happen with one of my 1200JBs. Nothing I tried for ages could boot properly with the HD attached. Turns out that the Master File Table was the cause. I had almost given up and was going to format/repartition the drive for a test install of Mandrake 9.1 I got thru the bootable loadup in mandrake and came to the partitioning section before the actual install starts. Their is an option there to recover a partition. Used that and it restored the Master File Table on the drive. Recovered every single bit of data on there. (note this was a NTFS partition).

7th January 2004, 10:07 AM	#14
bow$er Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Glenelg, SA Posts: 31	I've been running a WD 120JB for over 6 months with no hassles MarkWasabi. From all reports I've seen there an excellent drive. I had a WD 40 gig JB die on me after 5 days. That's rare but it does happen. I find it's a good idea to install speedfan when you first purchase a HDD and check it's status in the SMART health area. The drives that have died on me normally have indicated a problem there beforehand. Off the shelf the wd 40jb showed a health status of 25%. Not good

7th January 2004, 10:24 AM	#15
MarkWasabi Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 135	Yeah, I had a look over at storagereview.com and it looks like they're an excellent drive in terms of performance, and the reliability survey (requires registration) gives the impression that they're pretty reliable. And thanks for mentioning Speedfan. I'd never heard of it (or if I had I hadn't taken any notice of it). I hadn't found a program that could give me that much info on my HDD. One question though - is it able to get the HDD temperature? I haven't been able to get it off MBM5, and I thought Speedfan may be able to. It lists a whole lot of temps but it's hard to tell which is which.