Barebone Owners Please Come In!

mikemike · 1st April 2004, 1:20 AM

What barebone have you guys got? What specs? What mods? Any good solutions for high temps? Upload some pictures for us!

Nerotic · 1st April 2004, 11:30 AM

Hello...

I have an Abit DigiDice, which consists of:

- P4 3.2 Northy
- 9800 XT
- 2 x 512MB PC4000 KingMax Tiny BGA
- 1 x 36GB Raptor
- 1 x 200GB SATA
- Pioneer 107D Dvd Burner

And soon to be adding:

- 1 x 250GB IDE Fluid Drive
- Audigy 2 ZS

I dont plan of modding it, looks funky the way it is and i doubt temps will be a problem. My Video Card and Ram should be arriving today so I can get her cranking!

Some pics ...
http://www.blingbitches.com/~nerotic/digi01.jpg to digi12.jpg
http://www.blingbitches.com/~nerotic/digisize1.jpg
http://www.blingbitches.com/~nerotic/digisize2.jpg

Ill update the pics when final parts arrive!
Cheers

kamehameha · 1st April 2004, 11:31 AM

Ive got a shuttle SN45G - love the thing. Run it with a barton3200+

no real temp problems, although im running it at stock speeds for now.

Id be keen to see if anyones got any ideas on cooling.

daffy · 1st April 2004, 1:48 PM

SB75G2
P42.8c@3420
1GB OCZ pc3200/3500
GeCube9600XT
Raptor 36GB/Seagate 80GB SATA
NEC 2500A DVD+/-
Here it is

Nerotic · 1st April 2004, 2:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by daffy
SB75G2
P42.8c@3420
1GB OCZ pc3200/3500
GeCube9600XT
Raptor 36GB/Seagate 80GB SATA
NEC 2500A DVD+/-
Here it is

You should post pics of your actual setup, not a review of it!

daffy · 1st April 2004, 2:49 PM

That's where the pics are, i dont have them locally anymore.

mikemike · 2nd April 2004, 1:10 AM

I installed the Shuttle SilentX 250W which is suppose to be quieter and cooler because it uses different housing setups for better airflow. Along with that, I Swap from the normal case cover to the black mesh cover for better intake airflow for both the PSU and my 9800XT. The total cost for both parts came to $200AUD and the performance gain I got back in return was minimal...1 degrees avg. lower CPU temp and 2 degrees avg. lower CASE temp.

Has anybody here tried to fit in a SLOT FAN for their barebone?

The suson fan that comes stock with the heat pipe is rather LOUD. I rather sacrifice me PCI slot for EXHAUST SLOT FAN made by JustCooler than have 1 freakin' loud fan! SOmebody told me they have both the long version and short version of this slot fan and it didn't fit. Has anybody successfully fitted one into their barebone?

daffy · 2nd April 2004, 6:10 AM

Nice setup mikemike, i was considering the 250W PSU as the whine from the 220W 40mm fans is a little annoying, did you notice anything on that front?
I've found no need to run the fan at full speed unless your freaked about temps, mine does not crash or anything and i have in on low.
PCI slot blowers seem a popular choice but i use my slot for a TV card.

Krinos · 2nd April 2004, 6:37 AM

I run the XPC system listed in my sig, the only 'mod' would be the replacement of my old G2 case/PSU with a G4 case and silentX PSU (the Ati motherboard didn't like the TwinMOS ram I was running at the time so I put it in an older XPC elsewhere in the house). The PSU is a little quieter, but the Sunon 80mm is still a bit of a loud beast.

Spodes abode had a mod up replacing the sunon with two quieter 80cm evercools, one on the inside outside the shroud and one outside the case.

Worth a shot for the adventurous?

dke · 2nd April 2004, 12:35 PM

that mod looks quite effective, and it gives me an excuse to change the fans

btw, i have an SB65G2, p4 2.8, 512 ram, GF4 .... and all the other crap.

the only thing i've changed was the psu for the new silentX model which is far far quieter then the stock one.

a quick question, whats a decent vid card cooler i can use on my GF4 that will fit in the confines of the XPC, cause its now the loudest component, and annoying me!

eva2000 · 2nd April 2004, 2:05 PM

SB61G2

2.8C @ 233mhz 1.6v
128MB Xmicro GF4 Ti4200 VIVO with Vantec Copper heatsink
2x 512MB OCZ PC3500 Gold @ 233mhz 2.5-3-3-7 at 2.65v vdimm
120GB WD 1200JB
Liteon LDW-411s Burner

replaced heatpipe's fan with TT 80x25mm smartfan2 75cfm fan
added external 92x38mm aluminium fan adaptor with sunon 120cfm fan sucking out

pics

http://www.fileshosts.com/Shuttle/SB61G2/small/

and mods at
http://www.fileshosts.com/Shuttle/SB61G2/2/web/

Just cooler slot fans won't fit SB61G2 i tried

before anyone asks the temps here's stock idle in 33C room temps Speedfan idle temps @ stock after 8hrs prime95 @ 233fsb 1.55vcore

daffy · 2nd April 2004, 6:08 PM

Very effective setup cooling wise there eva2000, my idle temps are higher than your load ones.

mikemike · 3rd April 2004, 3:27 AM

daffy: yeah i know about the whining noise, that's one reason why I changed the PSU for such an outrageous price tag; but also it deals with heat better, coz the internal ventilation structure is different - a stock 220W PSU has the intake fan on the bottom and the exhaust fan on the top (or vice versa if i'm wrong), hence it's giving me the impression it's working thru the cables, or simply put - getting freakin' hot inside - but the SilentX has both "ex" and "in" on top with no blockaid, plus, heat rises, so it makes sense. Another reason is simply that it gives me the extra 30W power for stability, even tho the 220W is excellent in that regard. PCI exhaust blowers won't fit, many have told me that, but I "wish" somebody would tell me otherwise.

Krinos: Seems like you've put quite alot of money there to make things RIGHT. But it's good to have things working fine the way you want. I'm glad for you dude. Sunon's are freakin' loud! Yeah, I know about that mod, there was another similar one I read of b4, but I've heard a mix result and PLUS, it doesnt look so neat anymore.

dke: I have a GF4 Ti4600 in my other LOUD Athlon 2100XP. I moved it outside. To cool a GF4 is attainable, but to quieten it down is another, smaller fans tend to be louder coz they spin faster to get the job done. I forgot which company made an aftermarket heatsink and fan module for it, it looks pretty good. But not sure about the noise levels. It was one of either Coolermaster or Thermaltake "I THINK".

eva2000: In this picture the distance between your fan and PCI slot looks MUCH CLOSER than the space between the PCI slot and the fan that I have in the SB65G2. May I ask if it was true that the "Just Cooler" fans didnt fit "WIDTH" wise? If not, what was it? LENGTH???

Finally, a general word, SilentX is a MUST. I am getting my rounded cables tomorrow to see if it improves the airflow and free up some space in the godd*mn thing! The mesh casing definately lets my 9800XT breathe much better, which on the other side lets my PSU breathe better too. I would have to say that one major part that heats up my case so badly is my freakin' 9800XT, my WD Raptor and the other usual stuff. But the 9800XT is freakin' hot! I shall get back to you guys on what happens later.

eva2000 · 3rd April 2004, 3:36 AM

it's width wise that the pci slot coolers don't fit IIRC or it could be IIRC that the pci bracket on the slot cooler is a bit too long or wide to fit nicely into the bottom part of the SB61G2.. can't remember which heh

SilentX psu nice huh.. hmmmm

daffy · 3rd April 2004, 6:47 AM

I've been looking for some genuine user feedback on the Silent X, maybe it's worth the asking $$ to get rid of that pesky 'whine'.
Thanks mikemike

Another ?? for Shuttle folk, mine undervolts on the CPU vcore really badly, 1.49vcore under load ( i'm using the max BIOS setting of 1.58)and i think this limits my overclcock as it's not even the standard vcore at that level. I wonder if the Silent X would also help here, currently 3420 Mhz is my best speed without errors or crashing.
How do others go with vcore under load?

1st April 2004, 1:20 AM	#1
mikemike Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 20	Barebone Owners Please Come In! What barebone have you guys got? What specs? What mods? Any good solutions for high temps? Upload some pictures for us! __________________ Shuttle SB65G2 Barebone [SilentX \| Mesh Cover] \| Intel Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT 800MHz FSB \| Corsair 1024 DDR CL2 Memory Western Digital 74G Raptor HDD \| Western Digital 80G HDD \| ATi Radeon 9800XT 256Mb \| Creative SB Live Digital \| Philips 170B4 17 inch LCD w/ DVI

1st April 2004, 1:48 PM	#4
daffy Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,222	SB75G2 P42.8c@3420 1GB OCZ pc3200/3500 GeCube9600XT Raptor 36GB/Seagate 80GB SATA NEC 2500A DVD+/- Here it is __________________ NOTHING A 10 ROUND BURST WONT FIX.

1st April 2004, 2:49 PM	#6
daffy Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,222	That's where the pics are, i dont have them locally anymore. __________________ NOTHING A 10 ROUND BURST WONT FIX.

2nd April 2004, 1:10 AM	#7
mikemike Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 20	I installed the Shuttle SilentX 250W which is suppose to be quieter and cooler because it uses different housing setups for better airflow. Along with that, I Swap from the normal case cover to the black mesh cover for better intake airflow for both the PSU and my 9800XT. The total cost for both parts came to $200AUD and the performance gain I got back in return was minimal...1 degrees avg. lower CPU temp and 2 degrees avg. lower CASE temp. Has anybody here tried to fit in a SLOT FAN for their barebone? The suson fan that comes stock with the heat pipe is rather LOUD. I rather sacrifice me PCI slot for EXHAUST SLOT FAN made by JustCooler than have 1 freakin' loud fan! SOmebody told me they have both the long version and short version of this slot fan and it didn't fit. Has anybody successfully fitted one into their barebone? __________________ Shuttle SB65G2 Barebone [SilentX \| Mesh Cover] \| Intel Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT 800MHz FSB \| Corsair 1024 DDR CL2 Memory Western Digital 74G Raptor HDD \| Western Digital 80G HDD \| ATi Radeon 9800XT 256Mb \| Creative SB Live Digital \| Philips 170B4 17 inch LCD w/ DVI

2nd April 2004, 6:10 AM	#8
daffy Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,222	Nice setup mikemike, i was considering the 250W PSU as the whine from the 220W 40mm fans is a little annoying, did you notice anything on that front? I've found no need to run the fan at full speed unless your freaked about temps, mine does not crash or anything and i have in on low. PCI slot blowers seem a popular choice but i use my slot for a TV card. __________________ NOTHING A 10 ROUND BURST WONT FIX.

1st April 2004, 11:30 AM	#2
Nerotic Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Perth (Kardinya) Posts: 1,083	Hello... I have an Abit DigiDice, which consists of: - P4 3.2 Northy - 9800 XT - 2 x 512MB PC4000 KingMax Tiny BGA - 1 x 36GB Raptor - 1 x 200GB SATA - Pioneer 107D Dvd Burner And soon to be adding: - 1 x 250GB IDE Fluid Drive - Audigy 2 ZS I dont plan of modding it, looks funky the way it is and i doubt temps will be a problem. My Video Card and Ram should be arriving today so I can get her cranking! Some pics ... http://www.blingbitches.com/~nerotic/digi01.jpg to digi12.jpg http://www.blingbitches.com/~nerotic/digisize1.jpg http://www.blingbitches.com/~nerotic/digisize2.jpg Ill update the pics when final parts arrive! Cheers

1st April 2004, 11:31 AM	#3
kamehameha Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Narf! Posts: 770	Ive got a shuttle SN45G - love the thing. Run it with a barton3200+ no real temp problems, although im running it at stock speeds for now. Id be keen to see if anyones got any ideas on cooling.

2nd April 2004, 6:37 AM	#9
Krinos Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 333	I run the XPC system listed in my sig, the only 'mod' would be the replacement of my old G2 case/PSU with a G4 case and silentX PSU (the Ati motherboard didn't like the TwinMOS ram I was running at the time so I put it in an older XPC elsewhere in the house). The PSU is a little quieter, but the Sunon 80mm is still a bit of a loud beast. Spodes abode had a mod up replacing the sunon with two quieter 80cm evercools, one on the inside outside the shroud and one outside the case. Worth a shot for the adventurous? __________________ C2D E8500 \| Asus MSI K8N Diamond \| Antec solo w\Antec Neo HE 550W \| 4GB (2x2GB) Team DDR2 \| Gigabyte 4970 \| 2x36GB 16MB WD Raptors Raid 0 & 1TB WD \| Pioneer DVR-108A \| hp 2335 & Samsung 172x \| Logitech MX1000 & Di Novo Edge \| Sony MD717 & Seinheiser

2nd April 2004, 12:35 PM	#10
dke Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9	that mod looks quite effective, and it gives me an excuse to change the fans btw, i have an SB65G2, p4 2.8, 512 ram, GF4 .... and all the other crap. the only thing i've changed was the psu for the new silentX model which is far far quieter then the stock one. a quick question, whats a decent vid card cooler i can use on my GF4 that will fit in the confines of the XPC, cause its now the loudest component, and annoying me! __________________ eep

2nd April 2004, 2:05 PM	#11
eva2000 DDR1/DDR2/DDR3 Addict Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 21,117	SB61G2 2.8C @ 233mhz 1.6v 128MB Xmicro GF4 Ti4200 VIVO with Vantec Copper heatsink 2x 512MB OCZ PC3500 Gold @ 233mhz 2.5-3-3-7 at 2.65v vdimm 120GB WD 1200JB Liteon LDW-411s Burner replaced heatpipe's fan with TT 80x25mm smartfan2 75cfm fan added external 92x38mm aluminium fan adaptor with sunon 120cfm fan sucking out pics http://www.fileshosts.com/Shuttle/SB61G2/small/ and mods at http://www.fileshosts.com/Shuttle/SB61G2/2/web/ Just cooler slot fans won't fit SB61G2 i tried before anyone asks the temps here's stock idle in 33C room temps Speedfan idle temps @ stock after 8hrs prime95 @ 233fsb 1.55vcore __________________ * Got questions about oc'ing / memory? No PMs Ask on forums * Asus P6T6 WS Revo - W3540 @4821 H20 \| W3570 @4997Mhz H20 * DFI UT X58-T3EH8 \| W3520 @4877 H20 \| DFI JR X58 * Core i7 DDR3 Tri Channel kit list \| >12GB DDR3 Club Last edited by eva2000; 2nd April 2004 at 2:19 PM.

2nd April 2004, 6:08 PM	#12
daffy Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,222	Very effective setup cooling wise there eva2000, my idle temps are higher than your load ones. __________________ NOTHING A 10 ROUND BURST WONT FIX.

3rd April 2004, 3:27 AM	#13
mikemike Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 20	daffy: yeah i know about the whining noise, that's one reason why I changed the PSU for such an outrageous price tag; but also it deals with heat better, coz the internal ventilation structure is different - a stock 220W PSU has the intake fan on the bottom and the exhaust fan on the top (or vice versa if i'm wrong), hence it's giving me the impression it's working thru the cables, or simply put - getting freakin' hot inside - but the SilentX has both "ex" and "in" on top with no blockaid, plus, heat rises, so it makes sense. Another reason is simply that it gives me the extra 30W power for stability, even tho the 220W is excellent in that regard. PCI exhaust blowers won't fit, many have told me that, but I "wish" somebody would tell me otherwise. Krinos: Seems like you've put quite alot of money there to make things RIGHT. But it's good to have things working fine the way you want. I'm glad for you dude. Sunon's are freakin' loud! Yeah, I know about that mod, there was another similar one I read of b4, but I've heard a mix result and PLUS, it doesnt look so neat anymore. dke: I have a GF4 Ti4600 in my other LOUD Athlon 2100XP. I moved it outside. To cool a GF4 is attainable, but to quieten it down is another, smaller fans tend to be louder coz they spin faster to get the job done. I forgot which company made an aftermarket heatsink and fan module for it, it looks pretty good. But not sure about the noise levels. It was one of either Coolermaster or Thermaltake "I THINK". eva2000: In this picture the distance between your fan and PCI slot looks MUCH CLOSER than the space between the PCI slot and the fan that I have in the SB65G2. May I ask if it was true that the "Just Cooler" fans didnt fit "WIDTH" wise? If not, what was it? LENGTH??? Finally, a general word, SilentX is a MUST. I am getting my rounded cables tomorrow to see if it improves the airflow and free up some space in the goddmn thing! The mesh casing definately lets my 9800XT breathe much better, which on the other side lets my PSU breathe better too. I would have to say that one major part that heats up my case so badly is my freakin' 9800XT, my WD Raptor and the other usual stuff. But the 9800XT is freakin' hot! I shall get back to you guys on what happens later. __________________ Shuttle* SB65G2 Barebone [SilentX \| Mesh Cover] \| Intel Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT 800MHz FSB \| Corsair 1024 DDR CL2 Memory Western Digital 74G Raptor HDD \| Western Digital 80G HDD \| ATi Radeon 9800XT 256Mb \| Creative SB Live Digital \| Philips 170B4 17 inch LCD w/ DVI

3rd April 2004, 3:36 AM	#14
eva2000 DDR1/DDR2/DDR3 Addict Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 21,117	it's width wise that the pci slot coolers don't fit IIRC or it could be IIRC that the pci bracket on the slot cooler is a bit too long or wide to fit nicely into the bottom part of the SB61G2.. can't remember which heh SilentX psu nice huh.. hmmmm __________________ * Got questions about oc'ing / memory? No PMs Ask on forums * Asus P6T6 WS Revo - W3540 @4821 H20 \| W3570 @4997Mhz H20 * DFI UT X58-T3EH8 \| W3520 @4877 H20 \| DFI JR X58 * Core i7 DDR3 Tri Channel kit list \| >12GB DDR3 Club

3rd April 2004, 6:47 AM	#15
daffy Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,222	I've been looking for some genuine user feedback on the Silent X, maybe it's worth the asking $$ to get rid of that pesky 'whine'. Thanks mikemike Another ?? for Shuttle folk, mine undervolts on the CPU vcore really badly, 1.49vcore under load ( i'm using the max BIOS setting of 1.58)and i think this limits my overclcock as it's not even the standard vcore at that level. I wonder if the Silent X would also help here, currently 3420 Mhz is my best speed without errors or crashing. How do others go with vcore under load? __________________ NOTHING A 10 ROUND BURST WONT FIX. Last edited by daffy; 3rd April 2004 at 7:08 AM.