Shuttle XPC's Silent X 250W PSU and 6600GT

[uberbanzai]

I'm considering a move to a Shuttle PC as it would be a heck of a lot easier for me and plus that one that was on the homepage a few days ago game me a little more inspiration of what I would like to do.

But what I want to know, is would the 6600GT be able to run on the 250w PSU ? I'm doubting it very much. But I just don't want to have to go out and buy another 1U PSU, they don't come cheap.

Ryan

[vinnY]

even if it could, i believe we've tried the albatron 6800gt and its just too long to fit in there, even if the psu could bear the load

[uberbanzai]

Originally posted by vinnY
even if it could, i believe we've tried the albatron 6800gt and its just too long to fit in there, even if the psu could bear the load

There aint nothing a dremem/soldering iron can't fix

But yeah, I know the 6800U/GT's needed like 350w minimum, I'm just wondering what the 6600GT would need.

Ryan

[chestRcopRpot]

although i have no realworld tests of gf6 hardware. i can tell you a x800pro runs and fits flawlessly in a shuttle with the original 200watt psu and also a soltek qbic with a 230watt psu. qbic had 2 hdd's and a cdrom and a 2.4C @ 3.2.

How much more power does a 6800gt use over a x800pro?? The 6600 series would have to use less than the ati i would think.

[Krinos]

I'm pretty sure it would, as the 6600 is a much smaller chip and card than the 6800s. The main problem I can see is that the 6600 series are initially coming out as PCIe cards, and the PCIe XPCs aren't available in Australia yet. Plus side of this is that since PCIe can supply more than AGP it doesn't need an auxilliary molex connector.

When it does arrive, the P series 915 XPC shouldn't have any power trouble with any video card, as it comes with a 350W PSU.

[uberbanzai]

Yeah, well. This is what I'd be running.

2x 120gig SATA/PATA [Get to be decided]
6600GT
P4 1.8A @ 2.8GHz

I'm looking to watercool it too.

The Snarf's project has been the biggest inspiration to me.

What I was thinking of doing if the 1U PSU didn't work was to use a normal 4U [That the right name ?] PSU except mount it externally or something. I can't afford a 400w 1U PSU

Ryan

[uberbanzai]

Originally posted by Krinos
When it does arrive, the P series 915 XPC shouldn't have any power trouble with any video card, as it comes with a 350W PSU.

Yeah I've been looking at that on the Shuttle website.

But I don't really want to have to fork out $600+ for a PCIe setup.

I've already got the P4/RAM/HDD here.

So is the 6600GT coming out in AGP flavour ?

Ryan

[Krinos]

Hate to rain on your parade, but I'm assuming that 1.8 is a s478. That means you'll be waiting for the bridged AGP 6600GT to come out, and I've heard that these will be coming out even further down the road than the initial PCIe 6600GTs.

Have you considered the vanilla 6800? They're less power hungry than either 6800GT/Ultra and a single slot design to boot. I wouldn't imagine you'd have much difficulty fitting one into an XPC as I was able to fit in an XFX 5700U, and they look to be the same size or larger than the vanilla 6800.

[uberbanzai]

I dunno, I've herd bad things about the vanilla. Well not bad. But not good. The 6600GT is meant to be better than the vanilla 6800. Maybe I should try for a 6800GT See how that goes

Ryan

[Krinos]

I can't imagine the 6600GT outperforming a 6800 - granted it has higher clocks, but the 6800 still has 1.5x the pipelines and twice the memory bandwidth on its (admittedly lower clocked) RAM, plus any (most probably small) loss of performance due to the HSI bridge chip. It is cheaper though.

[uberbanzai]

Edit - Don't worry, I'm going to go with a vanilla 6800 ASUS. The 256meg version

Ryan

[SLATYE]

Originally posted by Krinos
I can't imagine the 6600GT outperforming a 6800 - granted it has higher clocks, but the 6800 still has 1.5x the pipelines and twice the memory bandwidth on its (admittedly lower clocked) RAM, plus any (most probably small) loss of performance due to the HSI bridge chip. It is cheaper though.

The difference is that the 6800NU runs at 325Mhz core while the 6600GT is at 500Mhz. That gives the 6600GT a small theoretical advantage in processing power (12 pipes x 325Mhz = 3900. 8 pipes x 500Mhz = 4000).

The faster RAM will help a bit, especially in that it will have lower latencies. I'd expect the 6800NU to win generally, but it won't be ahead by much (and the larger power/cooling requirements do work against it).

EDIT: Uberbanzai, did you just say you're going with a 256Mb 6800NU? I wasn't aware that there was such a card, as yet (and I can't find it on Asus's site either).

[rowen]

I read an interview with one of the Shuttle guys and they said a shuttle that was fully compatible with the 6800U is not too far away from release. I'm guessing this would be a PCI-Express version though, and not an AGP.

[uberbanzai]

Originally posted by rowen
I read an interview with one of the Shuttle guys and they said a shuttle that was fully compatible with the 6800U is not too far away from release. I'm guessing this would be a PCI-Express version though, and not an AGP.

Yeah it's just I got a killer 1.8A chip, and I'm not going to part with it that easily just for PCIe.

Slayte: http://www.gamers-depot.com/hardware...9999ge/001.htm

Ryan

[Jedi Jezz]

Well my 5900xt runs fine in my shuttle. One of me mates is running a 6800gt in a amd based shuttle and he has no power issues whatsoever.

Also I believe this question was asked a month or so ago here on OCAU and the general consensus was that the shuttle power supplies can run the cards fine.


EDIT: here