9800pros + hl2

newphilosophy · 22nd August 2004, 9:49 PM

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=1193&s=3

This suggests a 9800 Pro can get 95FPS on high detail @ 1024x768, on a AMD 64. Just wondering, how much of a drop in fps would you get if it was a 32bit AMD, like the system in my sig

Also would that be a 256bit 9800 Pro or a 128bit? Theres two 9800 Pro cards at my local shop I can get (or atleast save for):

http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show...viSA9800se_128 - $235!!

http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show...9800pro_128_cs - $359

The first is 128bit, but I'm not sure about the 2nd, I assume 256bit. I'm sure I'm getting something wrong, that seems to good to be true, high quality for $200-300? Either 64 makes a "massive" difference, or I've spent to long in here listening to people talk about their $700 cards been to slow when in reality my dreams of decent gaming isn't as far as I thought

grimpanda · 22nd August 2004, 9:54 PM

The stress test has nowhere near the same level of graphical detail seen in the HL2 screenshots/videos, nor does it have large amounts of action - don't trust those benchmark results as a measure of how your card/system will perform with the real game.

break · 22nd August 2004, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by grimpanda
The stress test has nowhere near the same level of graphical detail seen in the HL2 screenshots/videos, nor does it have large amounts of action - don't trust those benchmark results as a measure of how your card/system will perform with the real game.

I completely agree.

With my A64 + 9800np setup... i'm still not convinced at 1280x1024 is going to be in anyway playable under the HL2 engine.

newphilosophy · 22nd August 2004, 10:58 PM

Ahh that's some depressing news

I guess I'll just have to wait until it's offically released.

grimpanda · 22nd August 2004, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by newphilosophy
Ahh that's some depressing news I guess I'll just have to wait until it's offically released.

Yeah, sorry to ruin the party, but I know that there will probably be people who'll see this thread and then go buy 9800pro's assuming they'll get those kind of results in the game, resulting in a lot of dissapointment.

aL4n · 23rd August 2004, 12:55 AM

yeh, as the other people has said.. the test isnt using the full amount of graphics that the full hl2 would have when it comes out. but it does give a rough idea how it will perform (kinda) :s only time will tell i guess

Quarters · 23rd August 2004, 1:06 AM

Im currently getting 60-100 fps in cs source, 1024x768, 4xAA if that helps.

sanjeevlives · 23rd August 2004, 3:53 AM

well i get the same fps in cs 1.6 as in half life 1 so dunno if that helps

smack01 · 23rd August 2004, 8:51 AM

If i get half the FPS amount with my 9800Pro & HL2 at that res and detail ill be happy.

newphilosophy · 23rd August 2004, 9:08 AM

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Originally posted by Quarters
Im currently getting 60-100 fps in cs source, 1024x768, 4xAA if that helps.

This sounds very good

I mean, I'm gonna be playing CS:S more than Half Life 2 SP, I just hope this means I can run CS2 aswell. Is the Powercolor 9800 Pro a 128bit or 256bit?

EDIT: Nevermind, just checked, it's 256bit. And it costs more than the Gecube card I listed above :S

Cihan · 23rd August 2004, 6:18 PM

Hrm, 9800's should play the game fine - I dont see why they wouldn't, usually games get faster when they are released, unless ofcourse the beta's or alphas are missing effects etc. It will run faster than doom 3 because those kind of shadows are missing, and specular lighting etc is used much less from what ive seen..

We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out

But here's to hoping hay!

Cihan.

BIOS · 23rd August 2004, 7:09 PM

From what I know all 9800Pro's have 256bit ram.

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http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_sho...=viSA9800se_128 - $235!!

This is not a 9800Pro it is a 9800se. The main difference between the Pro and the SE is that the Pro has eight pixel pipelines whereas the SE has eight but four are disabled.

fxr91 · 23rd August 2004, 7:32 PM

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Originally posted by BIOS
From what I know all 9800Pro's have 256bit ram.

Nope, there are also 128bit 9800Pro's. A few people on these forums were caught out.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16650

Forgiven · 23rd August 2004, 8:23 PM

And I believe those Gecube has the R360 Core instead of R350 core... try your luck on MSI 9800pro which has a big heatsink and I am quite sure all of it comes with R360 core

Cihan · 23rd August 2004, 9:25 PM

Most/all recent 9800's would have r360 cores... Get the newest box from either or the manufacturers and you should be fine. Powercolor is selling alot of cards, they make a good choice from that perspective.

22nd August 2004, 9:49 PM	#1
newphilosophy Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 187	9800pros + hl2 http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=1193&s=3 This suggests a 9800 Pro can get 95FPS on high detail @ 1024x768, on a AMD 64. Just wondering, how much of a drop in fps would you get if it was a 32bit AMD, like the system in my sig Also would that be a 256bit 9800 Pro or a 128bit? Theres two 9800 Pro cards at my local shop I can get (or atleast save for): http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show...viSA9800se_128 - $235!! http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show...9800pro_128_cs - $359 The first is 128bit, but I'm not sure about the 2nd, I assume 256bit. I'm sure I'm getting something wrong, that seems to good to be true, high quality for $200-300? Either 64 makes a "massive" difference, or I've spent to long in here listening to people talk about their $700 cards been to slow when in reality my dreams of decent gaming isn't as far as I thought __________________ I hope that after I die, people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."

22nd August 2004, 9:54 PM	#2
grimpanda Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mt Waverley, Melbourne Posts: 726	The stress test has nowhere near the same level of graphical detail seen in the HL2 screenshots/videos, nor does it have large amounts of action - don't trust those benchmark results as a measure of how your card/system will perform with the real game. __________________ "Honestly, do you walk into maccas and ask for a bic mac with exactly 32 sesame seeds, pickles exactly 8cm in diamater and cheese cooked at the exact same temperature as the shit you pull out of your ass?" - virtvirt OCAUGuitar Players Club OCAU Pink Floyd Fan #30

22nd August 2004, 10:58 PM	#4
newphilosophy Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 187	Ahh that's some depressing news I guess I'll just have to wait until it's offically released. __________________ I hope that after I die, people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."

23rd August 2004, 1:06 AM	#7
Quarters Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Perth Posts: 121	Im currently getting 60-100 fps in cs source, 1024x768, 4xAA if that helps. __________________ \|AMD 3000+\|\|MSI K8N Neo 2\|\|2x 512mb Corsair XMS3500\|\|Powercolor 9800 Pro 128mb\|\|2x WD 120gb Sata Raid0\|\|SoundBlaster Audigy\|\|Antec TrueControl\|

23rd August 2004, 3:53 AM	#8
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23rd August 2004, 12:55 AM	#6
aL4n Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 641	yeh, as the other people has said.. the test isnt using the full amount of graphics that the full hl2 would have when it comes out. but it does give a rough idea how it will perform (kinda) :s only time will tell i guess

23rd August 2004, 8:51 AM	#9
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23rd August 2004, 6:18 PM	#11
Cihan Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,401	Hrm, 9800's should play the game fine - I dont see why they wouldn't, usually games get faster when they are released, unless ofcourse the beta's or alphas are missing effects etc. It will run faster than doom 3 because those kind of shadows are missing, and specular lighting etc is used much less from what ive seen.. We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out But here's to hoping hay! Cihan. Last edited by Cihan; 23rd August 2004 at 9:46 PM.

23rd August 2004, 8:23 PM	#14
Forgiven Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brizzie Posts: 882	And I believe those Gecube has the R360 Core instead of R350 core... try your luck on MSI 9800pro which has a big heatsink and I am quite sure all of it comes with R360 core __________________ Just a Geek PC

23rd August 2004, 9:25 PM	#15
Cihan Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 2,401	Most/all recent 9800's would have r360 cores... Get the newest box from either or the manufacturers and you should be fine. Powercolor is selling alot of cards, they make a good choice from that perspective.