maxtor 300gig 16meg cache

RATM_FAN · 22nd October 2004, 12:01 AM

at scorptech
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 Serial ATA 300GB, SATA/150, 7200rpm, 16Mb Cache, NCQ for $495.00

i was just wondering how would this hardrive be compared to a western digital 74gig 10000rpm raptor. Would the performance of the 16meg cache be a big performance boost as hardrives went from 2meg to 8meg cache. Also does anyone know of any reviews for this hardrive?

eva2000 · 22nd October 2004, 12:04 AM

from reviews

WD raptor 63MB/s
Maxtor Plus 10 52MB/s

not far off it seems plus Maxtor Plus 10 modelsupports NCQ so if you had a NCQ controller you'd be flying!

only other SATA drive in OZ to have NCQ support are 160GB Seagate 7200.7 listed at secret.com.au @ $165/each

Leopard · 22nd October 2004, 12:55 AM

10% cheaper at Pluscorp for the 300GB.

eva2000 · 22nd October 2004, 1:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Leopard

10% cheaper at Pluscorp for the 300GB.

different model at Pluscorp

there's 2 models

300GB Maxtor Maxline Plus II 7200rpm 16MB at pluscorp $444
300GB Maxtor Diamond Plus 10 7200rpm 16MB NCQ support cheapest i seen at ausprices.com seeach is $440

correction from maxtor.com site both

300GB 16MB DiamondMax Plus 10 and Maxline III hdd support NCQ

Leopard · 22nd October 2004, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

different model at Pluscorp

there's 2 models

300GB Maxtor Maxline Plus II 7200rpm 16MB at pluscorp $444
300GB Maxtor Diamond Plus 10 7200rpm 16MB NCQ support cheapest i seen at ausprices.com seeach is $440

thanks for the heads up, I hadn't noticed that! I nearly bought one as well...

stroggos2k · 22nd October 2004, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

from reviews

WD raptor 63MB/s
Maxtor Plus 10 52MB/s

not far off it seems plus Maxtor Plus 10 modelsupports NCQ so if you had a NCQ controller you'd be flying!

only other SATA drive in OZ to have NCQ support are 160GB Seagate 7200.7 listed at secret.com.au @ $165/each

Does this mean that all SATA 7200.7 160gb's are NCQ? Because I've had one since last december and I'm interested in finding out if my drive supports this function.

dexter_dsg · 22nd October 2004, 11:31 AM

If the model number is ST3160827AS then YES.

stroggos2k · 22nd October 2004, 11:42 AM

I guess not

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Hebby · 22nd October 2004, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva2000

from reviews

WD raptor 63MB/s
Maxtor Plus 10 52MB/s

not far off it seems plus Maxtor Plus 10 modelsupports NCQ so if you had a NCQ controller you'd be flying!

only other SATA drive in OZ to have NCQ support are 160GB Seagate 7200.7 listed at secret.com.au @ $165/each

erm what about the 200gb 7200.7s avalable almost everywhere [umart]

also being a 300g drive it should have 100g platters, makes it faster again, 52mb/s sounds a little slow, the 200gb 7200.7s pulles 63mb/s [36gb raptor does 62 iirc and the 74 does 72mb/s] (from various benches, mostly winbench and atto)

dexter_dsg · 22nd October 2004, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stroggos2k

I guess not

Actually ST3160827AS is NOT the only drive, the ST3160023AS also supports NCQ. And actually has the same specs????

Seagate SATA drives

stroggos2k · 22nd October 2004, 12:26 PM

woohoo!
So, what's the difference between the two 160gb 7200.7's then?
I'll have to go hunting for a NCQ supporting SATA controler then

(I'm guessing my Siil3112 doesn't support NCQ)

dexter_dsg · 22nd October 2004, 12:30 PM

I think they just wanted to introduce a new model numbering convention.

Bass · 22nd October 2004, 12:54 PM

So my two ST3160023AS 160gb Seagate Satas' support NCQ? Is it worth upgrading to a controller that can take advantage of this?

Hebby · 22nd October 2004, 1:05 PM

hmm interesting, thats a little disapointing i thought all the 7200.7s range supported it, seems only the 160 does...

the question is, how much do you use your pc for random read/write? ive also heard ncq isnt much use without multiprocessors [or HT] and if the software being used isnt optimised for async read/write [multiple software accessing the hdd though, with HT or multiprocessors, and ncq will be a bonus]

eva2000 · 22nd October 2004, 3:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dexter_dsg

Actually ST3160827AS is NOT the only drive, the ST3160023AS also supports NCQ. And actually has the same specs????

Seagate SATA drives

i think some 23AS ending aren't NCQ supported, so it's confusing - i'd ask retailer to confirm with their disty/suppliers and if they say yes and it doesn't support you have a course/reason for exchanging

22nd October 2004, 12:01 AM	#1
RATM_FAN New Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 740	maxtor 300gig 16meg cache at scorptech Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 Serial ATA 300GB, SATA/150, 7200rpm, 16Mb Cache, NCQ for $495.00 i was just wondering how would this hardrive be compared to a western digital 74gig 10000rpm raptor. Would the performance of the 16meg cache be a big performance boost as hardrives went from 2meg to 8meg cache. Also does anyone know of any reviews for this hardrive?

22nd October 2004, 12:04 AM	#2
eva2000 DDR1/DDR2/DDR3 Addict Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 21,887	from reviews WD raptor 63MB/s Maxtor Plus 10 52MB/s not far off it seems plus Maxtor Plus 10 modelsupports NCQ so if you had a NCQ controller you'd be flying! only other SATA drive in OZ to have NCQ support are 160GB Seagate 7200.7 listed at secret.com.au @ $165/each __________________ * Questions about memory? No PMs Ask on forums * i7 980X Club @4844mhz H20 * Asus P6T6 WS Revo - W3540 @4821 H20 \| W3570 @4997Mhz H20 \| DFI UT X58-T3EH8 USB3.0 Last edited by eva2000; 22nd October 2004 at 12:06 AM.

22nd October 2004, 12:55 AM	#3
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22nd October 2004, 11:31 AM	#7
dexter_dsg Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Martin's Village Posts: 893	If the model number is ST3160827AS then YES. __________________ PC 0: MSI K8T Neo FIS2R \| A64 3200+ Newcastle \| 2x1024 Geil PC3200 3-4-4-8-2T \| Gainward 6600GT \| XP Pro PC 1: MSI K8N Neo Platinum \| A64 3700+ Clawhammer \| 2x512 KingMAX PC3200 2.5-4-4-8-2T \| XFX 6800GT \| XP Home PC 2: IBM ThinkPad T41 \| Intel P 1.6 M \| 1.5M PC2700 \| Radeon 9000 \| XP Pro One day the last star will die... and from then on it will be COLD and DARK....FOREVER (Actually a good time to OC - Ambient Temperature == ABSOLUTE ZERO) Last edited by dexter_dsg; 22nd October 2004 at 12:28 PM. Reason: Correction

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stroggos2k Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rozelle, Sydney NSW Posts: 6,308	Great! woohoo! So, what's the difference between the two 160gb 7200.7's then? I'll have to go hunting for a NCQ supporting SATA controler then (I'm guessing my Siil3112 doesn't support NCQ)

22nd October 2004, 11:42 AM	#8
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22nd October 2004, 12:30 PM	#12
dexter_dsg Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Martin's Village Posts: 893	I think they just wanted to introduce a new model numbering convention. __________________ PC 0: MSI K8T Neo FIS2R \| A64 3200+ Newcastle \| 2x1024 Geil PC3200 3-4-4-8-2T \| Gainward 6600GT \| XP Pro PC 1: MSI K8N Neo Platinum \| A64 3700+ Clawhammer \| 2x512 KingMAX PC3200 2.5-4-4-8-2T \| XFX 6800GT \| XP Home PC 2: IBM ThinkPad T41 \| Intel P 1.6 M \| 1.5M PC2700 \| Radeon 9000 \| XP Pro One day the last star will die... and from then on it will be COLD and DARK....FOREVER (Actually a good time to OC - Ambient Temperature == ABSOLUTE ZERO)

22nd October 2004, 12:54 PM	#13
Bass Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,665	So my two ST3160023AS 160gb Seagate Satas' support NCQ? Is it worth upgrading to a controller that can take advantage of this? __________________ Stuff the computer, I have overclocked myself.

22nd October 2004, 1:05 PM	#14
Hebby Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rockhampton, Central Queensland Posts: 701	hmm interesting, thats a little disapointing i thought all the 7200.7s range supported it, seems only the 160 does... the question is, how much do you use your pc for random read/write? ive also heard ncq isnt much use without multiprocessors [or HT] and if the software being used isnt optimised for async read/write [multiple software accessing the hdd though, with HT or multiprocessors, and ncq will be a bonus] __________________ Hebby