GF4 users - how are your cards going ?

GUMPY · 20th February 2002, 4:42 PM

The title says it all.

How are the GF4s going, how well do they overclock, are they getting too hot and crashing ? What 3dmark scores or frames per second in games are you getting ?

phanoongy · 20th February 2002, 5:01 PM

my Leadtek Winfast A170 DDR T ( GeForce4 MX 440 ) has been running crash free for close to a week at 300/500.its been running the 27.42's on my XP box

my top 3dmark score so far is 4553 ( not bad for a $200 card!)

iKey · 20th February 2002, 5:27 PM

dunno if this is a n00b question but are gf4mx's better than gf2 pros?

and if so ar ethey better than any gf3's?

what are gf4mx's equal to in card greatness?

Triffid Hunter · 20th February 2002, 5:55 PM

ok.. which do you think is better? the pentium 2, the pentium 3 or the pentium 4? video cards use the same regime..

I dunno about the mx/pro thing tho.

phanoongy · 20th February 2002, 6:07 PM

i think the gf4 MX is better than the GF2 pro but not as good as a GF 3

LabMan · 20th February 2002, 6:27 PM

they should be about the same as the gf2 Ti/Ultra, as the gf2 mx was similar to the tnt2 ultra

i have got a better score, but then my comp is faster

LabMan · 20th February 2002, 6:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Triffid Hunter
ok.. which do you think is better? the pentium 2, the pentium 3 or the pentium 4? video cards use the same regime.. I dunno about the mx/pro thing tho.

vid cards have the same system until nvidia fuck up their naming scheam and call it a gf4mx when its really still a gf2mx with higher mem and core speed

phanoongy · 20th February 2002, 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LabMan

vid cards have the same system until nvidia fuck up their naming scheam and call it a gf4mx when its really still a gf2mx with higher mem and core speed

its not just a GF2 MX its got DDR ram for a start so its closer to a GF2 pro/Ti/Ultra they have also added allot to the core (but still missing things that are in the GF3 and GF4 TI.)

phanoongy · 20th February 2002, 6:50 PM

i cant publish my scores on 3dmark from a bug but i looked at yours LabMan and this is what i got

Ps you goto remember your CPU is way faster than mine

(3D marks) 4553 5193

Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail (you higher)
(FPS) 86.8 99.8

Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail (you higher)
(FPS) 27.3 32.8

Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail (you higher)
(FPS) 84.1 88.7

Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail (you higher)
(FPS) 39.4 41.1

Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail (you higher)
(FPS) 79.9 92.6

Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail (you higher)
(FPS) 35.7 45.3

Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) (Me higher)
(MTexels/s) 540.1 374.6

Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) (you higher)
(MTexels/s) 630.1 712.4

High Polygon Count (1 light) (Me higher)
(MTriangels/s) 26.8 25.5

High Polygon Count (8 lights) (Me higher)
(MTriangels/s) 7.5 6.2

DOT3 Bump Mapping (Me higher)
(FPS) 78.2 77.2

Vertex Shader (you higher)
(FPS) 36.4 41.4

Point Sprite Speed (Me higher)
(MSprites/s) 11.6 9.4

EDIT

yea and i dont have every thing turned down to give a highest score,its still set up to give the best picture

Fodder · 20th February 2002, 7:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LabMan
vid cards have the same system until nvidia fuck up their naming scheam and call it a gf4mx when its really still a gf2mx with higher mem and core speed

OH FFS. it's a totally new core, NV17, as opposed to the GF2MX which was NV11

the GF4 MX460 has 4 rendering pipelines as opposed to the GF2MX's 2, and has 128-bit DDR as opposed to 64-bit on the GF2

Bravo · 20th February 2002, 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phanoongy

its not just a GF2 MX its got DDR ram for a start so its closer to a GF2 pro/Ti/Ultra they have also added allot to the core (but still missing things that are in the GF3 and GF4 TI.)

DDR/SDR makes no difference with the GF2 MX core. They halve the pipeline when using DDR from 128bit to 64bit to keep performance down. With SDR, they keep the pipeline at 128bit, but the ram as SDR. Only a GTS/Pro/Ultra has the 128bit pipeline and DDR memory.

LabMan · 20th February 2002, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fodder

OH FFS. it's a totally new core, NV17, as opposed to the GF2MX which was NV11

the GF4 MX460 has 4 rendering pipelines as opposed to the GF2MX's 2, and has 128-bit DDR as opposed to 64-bit on the GF2

have you got some nice links bout it then?

IPfreely · 20th February 2002, 10:42 PM

Actually the GF4MX is still stuck with 2 rendering pipelines.

As Foder already pointed out, it is a lot more than an overclocked GF2MX. Most of its features can't be found on GF2s.

Here's a nice article on the subject.

Fodder · 20th February 2002, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IPfreely
Actually the GF4MX is still stuck with 2 rendering pipelines.

straight from the nVidia chip specs sticky, don't know how accurate it is tho:

(NV17)(0.13µm) Geforce 4 MX 420, 440, 460
Core Speed:250Mhz 2 pipelines, 275, 300Mhz 4 pipelines
Memory Speed:64MB SDR 166MHz, 400mhz DDR, 550 MHz DDR

and nope, no links. do some digging!

WOOFLE · 20th February 2002, 11:33 PM

MX series = 2 pipes

20th February 2002, 4:42 PM	#1
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20th February 2002, 5:01 PM	#2
phanoongy Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wheelers Hill, Victoria Posts: 274	my Leadtek Winfast A170 DDR T ( GeForce4 MX 440 ) has been running crash free for close to a week at 300/500.its been running the 27.42's on my XP box my top 3dmark score so far is 4553 ( not bad for a $200 card!) __________________ Some one once told me im psychic,. . o O (or was that psycho…..I get them mixed up all the time) Phanoongys photo album

20th February 2002, 6:07 PM	#5
phanoongy Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wheelers Hill, Victoria Posts: 274	i think the gf4 MX is better than the GF2 pro but not as good as a GF 3 __________________ Some one once told me im psychic,. . o O (or was that psycho…..I get them mixed up all the time) Phanoongys photo album

20th February 2002, 6:50 PM	#9
phanoongy Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wheelers Hill, Victoria Posts: 274	i cant publish my scores on 3dmark from a bug but i looked at yours LabMan and this is what i got Ps you goto remember your CPU is way faster than mine (3D marks) 4553 5193 Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail (you higher) (FPS) 86.8 99.8 Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail (you higher) (FPS) 27.3 32.8 Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail (you higher) (FPS) 84.1 88.7 Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail (you higher) (FPS) 39.4 41.1 Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail (you higher) (FPS) 79.9 92.6 Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail (you higher) (FPS) 35.7 45.3 Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) (Me higher) (MTexels/s) 540.1 374.6 Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) (you higher) (MTexels/s) 630.1 712.4 High Polygon Count (1 light) (Me higher) (MTriangels/s) 26.8 25.5 High Polygon Count (8 lights) (Me higher) (MTriangels/s) 7.5 6.2 DOT3 Bump Mapping (Me higher) (FPS) 78.2 77.2 Vertex Shader (you higher) (FPS) 36.4 41.4 Point Sprite Speed (Me higher) (MSprites/s) 11.6 9.4 EDIT yea and i dont have every thing turned down to give a highest score,its still set up to give the best picture __________________ Some one once told me im psychic,. . o O (or was that psycho…..I get them mixed up all the time) Phanoongys photo album Last edited by phanoongy; 20th February 2002 at 6:56 PM.

20th February 2002, 11:33 PM	#15
WOOFLE Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: melbourne Posts: 690	MX series = 2 pipes __________________ You can't have a reasonable discussion with an unreasonable person

20th February 2002, 5:27 PM	#3
iKey (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: BalwynNth.Vic.Melb.AU:3104 Posts: 2,111	dunno if this is a n00b question but are gf4mx's better than gf2 pros? and if so ar ethey better than any gf3's? what are gf4mx's equal to in card greatness?

20th February 2002, 5:55 PM	#4
Triffid Hunter Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisneyland Posts: 509	ok.. which do you think is better? the pentium 2, the pentium 3 or the pentium 4? video cards use the same regime.. I dunno about the mx/pro thing tho.

20th February 2002, 6:27 PM	#6
LabMan Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 715	they should be about the same as the gf2 Ti/Ultra, as the gf2 mx was similar to the tnt2 ultra i have got a better score, but then my comp is faster

20th February 2002, 10:42 PM	#13
IPfreely Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,900	Actually the GF4MX is still stuck with 2 rendering pipelines. As Foder already pointed out, it is a lot more than an overclocked GF2MX. Most of its features can't be found on GF2s. Here's a nice article on the subject.