SVHS to scart converter comes out black and white?! - Page 2

gizmo_melb · 24th January 2005, 9:42 PM

Hi Stussy,

sorry, maybe I didn't explain it well enough - I have a spare XBOX to SCART adapter for sale, which has an optical digital output (for audio) as well as having the default RCA audio/video and an S-VHS connection on it.

It's not a convertor, you plug it direct into the back of the XBOX and the other end into the SCART on your TV (I have an Orion brand TV with SCART and it gives a fantastic, clear picture.. and the optical is connected to the surround sound processor - makes gaming and XBOX Media Centre a lot of fun

).

pics at:

http://craigwp.customer.netspace.net...gb_optical.jpg

http://craigwp.customer.netspace.net...b_optical1.jpg

http://craigwp.customer.netspace.net...b_optical2.jpg

stussy · 25th January 2005, 12:59 PM

wow, thats perfect. is it authentic ms?
Can i bargain you to $25 incl postage

bryn · 27th January 2005, 3:58 PM

If its coming out in B&W, its proly working just fine- check the SVHS output on the XBOX, make sure its set to PAL. If you output an NTSC signal to a PAL tv it'll show the signal in B&W.

stussy · 27th January 2005, 5:42 PM

How do I make the xbox output the svideo in pal? It's a pal xbox and a pal av pack, so id think it was outputting in pal

stussy · 8th February 2005, 10:07 AM

Ok this is really strange.. I never got a reply. He seems like he'd be a good member, but my pm wasnt replied to. My thread wasn't/
I really really need this adapter asap.
Anyone else knows where to get one?

hendot · 24th March 2005, 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splash

It could be that your tv accepts s-video via the SCART connector. Some do, some don't.

If it comes through as black and white it means your TV doesn't accept s-video via scart, so you need an adaptor that does the conversion.

Anyone know where I can get an adapter that does the conversion?

gizmo_melb · 25th March 2005, 1:45 AM

eBay has them all the time.

flu!d · 25th March 2005, 8:02 AM

The problem with SCART is that people believe it's a universal connection with seperate RGB inputs as well as composite and audio, a lot of the time this just isn't the case - Especially on the older SCART equipped sets. You will find, quite often, on the earlier sets that the SCART connector only has the composite and audio inputs enabled, there is no RGB input and no chroma input - Which could be the case in the example here....

....What really pisses you off is the fact that you don't nessecarily find this out until you've been through about 3 different, expensive lead sets.

Go through your sets setup menu and make sure there isn't an option to enable RGB on the set. As stated previously, it is quite possible that the xbox is outputting NTSC - Although the chances are slim....

hendot · 25th March 2005, 2:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmo_melb

eBay has them all the time.

I have an adapter to go from scart to svideo, but the picture comes out as described in the first post. I am trying to get the scart on my STB to connect to the svideo on my amp. There is no setting for Svideo on my STB, only cvbs and rgb.

stussy · 25th March 2005, 4:53 PM

well i got one off ebay. An advanced av pack with RGB scart is what it was called I think. Colour works now

gizmo_melb · 25th March 2005, 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hendot

I have an adapter to go from scart to svideo, but the picture comes out as described in the first post. I am trying to get the scart on my STB to connect to the svideo on my amp. There is no setting for Svideo on my STB, only cvbs and rgb.

Hi Hendot, you're using the adaptor the wrong way around.. all of the SCART adaptors I've seen are for feeding IN a composite or S-VHS signal TO a SCART connection.. not for feeding FROM a SCART connection to composite or S-VHS.

You should in theory be able to get a SCART (OUT) to S-VHS cable, but it would have different wiring to a S-VHS to SCART (INPUT - the most common) cable.

hendot · 27th March 2005, 10:14 AM

There is a swtich on the adaptor to change between IN and OUT. Naturally I have it on OUT. I have tried it on IN but that just messes up the picture totally, as you would expect.

gizmo_melb · 28th March 2005, 9:23 AM

Hendot,

>I have an adapter to go from scart to svideo, but the picture comes out as >described in the first post. I am trying to get the scart on my STB to >connect to the svideo on my amp. There is no setting for Svideo on my >STB, only cvbs and rgb.

sorry, I missed the important facts from the previous message..

summing up - you won't be able to get colour from the SCART -> SVHS Cable you've got, it's simply not possible.

reason: the STB you have only outputs RGB or CVBS (or composite as it is more commonly known. ie: generally the yellow RCA cable on the back of most video devices).

in depth: the reason you're only getting black and white output from the SCART to the SVHS connection is that pin 19 on the SCART connection is the CVBS output (luma) signal, which is one of the two components that make us an S-VHS signal (chroma and luma). Because your STB can only output RGB or CVBS you cannot get the chroma output to make up the S-VHS signal.

You need a SCART to composite (RCA) cable (if your TV has composite input), and if you really need an S-VHS signal to input on the back of your amp, then you could build this device which will convert a composite video signal to an S-VHS signal:

http://www.elektor-electronics.co.uk...eo/Photography

or you could buy a SCART RGB to S-VHS adaptor box lke this one:
http://www.pcx.com.au/products/index...&g=189&s=35310

or if your TV has component colour video inputs, then use this device:
http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_102648/article.html

24th January 2005, 9:42 PM	#16
gizmo_melb (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,011	Hi Stussy, sorry, maybe I didn't explain it well enough - I have a spare XBOX to SCART adapter for sale, which has an optical digital output (for audio) as well as having the default RCA audio/video and an S-VHS connection on it. It's not a convertor, you plug it direct into the back of the XBOX and the other end into the SCART on your TV (I have an Orion brand TV with SCART and it gives a fantastic, clear picture.. and the optical is connected to the surround sound processor - makes gaming and XBOX Media Centre a lot of fun ). pics at: http://craigwp.customer.netspace.net...gb_optical.jpg http://craigwp.customer.netspace.net...b_optical1.jpg http://craigwp.customer.netspace.net...b_optical2.jpg Last edited by gizmo_melb; 24th January 2005 at 9:45 PM.

25th March 2005, 8:02 AM	#23
flu!d is a dad at last :D Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Mt Martha,Victoria,Oz Posts: 8,591	The problem with SCART is that people believe it's a universal connection with seperate RGB inputs as well as composite and audio, a lot of the time this just isn't the case - Especially on the older SCART equipped sets. You will find, quite often, on the earlier sets that the SCART connector only has the composite and audio inputs enabled, there is no RGB input and no chroma input - Which could be the case in the example here.... ....What really pisses you off is the fact that you don't nessecarily find this out until you've been through about 3 different, expensive lead sets. Go through your sets setup menu and make sure there isn't an option to enable RGB on the set. As stated previously, it is quite possible that the xbox is outputting NTSC - Although the chances are slim.... __________________ Show us yer HTPC! 2700k @ 4.8 1.36v, 8GB Corsair Vengeance C8, ASUS Maximus IV Extreme Z, 2 x EVGA 670FTW @ 1231/3420, Sandisk 128GB Extreme SSD, OCZ 60GB Vertex 2, 5TB WD green storage, 3 x Acer V243HQ in Surround, 1 x Acer AL718 4th accessory display, Windows 7 Ultimate, Corsair H100, Heavily modded Zalman GS1000.

27th March 2005, 10:14 AM	#27
hendot Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,264	There is a swtich on the adaptor to change between IN and OUT. Naturally I have it on OUT. I have tried it on IN but that just messes up the picture totally, as you would expect. __________________ Folding@Home 50,000 Club . Folding@Home 2.75 million Points Milestone Q6600 \| Gigabyte P965 DQ6 \| 2gb Corsair Twin2X 6400

25th January 2005, 12:59 PM	#17
stussy Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,216	wow, thats perfect. is it authentic ms? Can i bargain you to $25 incl postage

27th January 2005, 3:58 PM	#18
bryn Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,427	If its coming out in B&W, its proly working just fine- check the SVHS output on the XBOX, make sure its set to PAL. If you output an NTSC signal to a PAL tv it'll show the signal in B&W.

27th January 2005, 5:42 PM	#19
stussy Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,216	How do I make the xbox output the svideo in pal? It's a pal xbox and a pal av pack, so id think it was outputting in pal

8th February 2005, 10:07 AM	#20
stussy Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,216	Ok this is really strange.. I never got a reply. He seems like he'd be a good member, but my pm wasnt replied to. My thread wasn't/ I really really need this adapter asap. Anyone else knows where to get one?

25th March 2005, 1:45 AM	#22
gizmo_melb (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,011	eBay has them all the time.

25th March 2005, 4:53 PM	#25
stussy Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,216	well i got one off ebay. An advanced av pack with RGB scart is what it was called I think. Colour works now

28th March 2005, 9:23 AM	#28
gizmo_melb (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,011	Hendot, >I have an adapter to go from scart to svideo, but the picture comes out as >described in the first post. I am trying to get the scart on my STB to >connect to the svideo on my amp. There is no setting for Svideo on my >STB, only cvbs and rgb. sorry, I missed the important facts from the previous message.. summing up - you won't be able to get colour from the SCART -> SVHS Cable you've got, it's simply not possible. reason: the STB you have only outputs RGB or CVBS (or composite as it is more commonly known. ie: generally the yellow RCA cable on the back of most video devices). in depth: the reason you're only getting black and white output from the SCART to the SVHS connection is that pin 19 on the SCART connection is the CVBS output (luma) signal, which is one of the two components that make us an S-VHS signal (chroma and luma). Because your STB can only output RGB or CVBS you cannot get the chroma output to make up the S-VHS signal. You need a SCART to composite (RCA) cable (if your TV has composite input), and if you really need an S-VHS signal to input on the back of your amp, then you could build this device which will convert a composite video signal to an S-VHS signal: http://www.elektor-electronics.co.uk...eo/Photography or you could buy a SCART RGB to S-VHS adaptor box lke this one: http://www.pcx.com.au/products/index...&g=189&s=35310 or if your TV has component colour video inputs, then use this device: http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_102648/article.html