What ever happened to virtual reality? - Page 3

toje · 4th June 2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gloonk

I could not agree more, i remember going to a Time Zone ? in Miranda Fair perhaps 10 years ago and paying something like $5 for a couple of minutes on this VR game where you stood up on a small round platform with a gun and the goggles.
Now the graphics were fairly blocky but the game play immersion was awesome. i still to this day can rememeber looking directly up and looking at a tube going upwards and shooting up the tube at a thing i saw up there.
Now i'm shooting madly and having a fairly great toime, and then i get a tap on the shoulder to stop playing. Only then did i realise how much of a complete cock head(my girlfriend agreed that i did indeed look like an absolute cock head)i must have looked with a pair of big goggles on my head and shooting at nothing on the ceiling

Immersed you bet. Do i want more?, oh hell yes! so all the people who have perhaps read heaps about VR but never actually experienced it should give it a try before bagging it out.

I Remember That thing, it was awesome, at tilt.
After 2 Minutes i was hooked, it wasn't much visual wise, but extremely impressive.

DaRkDwArF · 4th June 2005, 12:48 PM

Hahaha I remember my girlfriend pointing out what a complete dick I looked like playing rise of the triad in replay brisbane CBD

warrenr · 29th April 2010, 8:18 AM

5 years on.........so are these mainstream yet?

MR CHILLED · 29th April 2010, 8:35 AM

Closest I come to VR these days is just VR tours on the web.

I did like the concept.

warrenr · 29th April 2010, 10:50 AM

not quite the same - but the Natural Point TrackIR 5 looks like the closest I'm going to get. anyone tried them?

tek_01 · 29th April 2010, 11:16 AM

Wow, never realised this was a 5 yr old thread lol. But i would absolutely LOVE to be play something like a FPS in VR (At home of course so no one can see what a doofus i look like).
Not really into the 3d stuff like through a monitor but havent really experienced a 3d game just movies

nexx · 29th April 2010, 11:34 AM

VR has it's place in training scenarios etc.

But people dont want to wear heavy goggles (same applies with 3D movies) and would rather sit still while using technology :P

MatchTheClown · 29th April 2010, 11:48 AM

We will just have to wait for neural jacks.

grimwood · 29th April 2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by warrenr

not quite the same - but the Natural Point TrackIR 5 looks like the closest I'm going to get. anyone tried them?

Yep I got one a few weeks ago to play with BlackShark, it's awesome. Apparently most in the flightsim world swear by it, and yeah I can see why. It's not bulky, just clips onto the headset, and config is easy, recentering is just a hotkey.

At work people are developing 3D stereo dome projection, I think that with some head tracking and decent input devices will give all of what VR offered. I don't think 3D game designers will need to change their way of doing things, it should all be done in the engine. Main problem with domes is they take up space.

iNeLuKi · 29th April 2010, 12:09 PM

A lot of VR headsets were abandoned because of the testing they had to undergo. There was one for the dreamcast I think that failed testing. People would get headaches, loss of depth perception, nausea, etc for hours after using the headset. I think the tests were about 2hrs/day for several weeks so that is conservative given how much some people would play.

Some testing has shown similar things with 3d glasses, especially in a home situation where it might be used 2+hrs/day rather than a cinema where you might go once or twice a month.

flain · 29th April 2010, 12:19 PM

I remember paying like $10 at luna park for 5mins in a VR thingo. Graphics were pretty dodgy. Immersion was quite good though.

I remember walking onto an elevator and hearing the guy say "look up" then thinking to myself wtf i am looking up. Then realising i had to actually tilt my head back to "look up". Then the elevator went up

Danthemanz · 29th April 2010, 12:26 PM

Surely we are getting somewhere with it now???
Isnt ATI talking about how Eyefinity is the first step towards a holodeck? 5 years off total immersion with LCDs?
Think about the graphics and LCD technology and how far its come!

I guess a lot has to do with the cost and lack of adoption. Sure we would all love something, but the rest of the world now has expectations of technology and isnt amazed by much any more, they just get annoyed when it isnt perfect.

Eg. My ex cant understand why i cant email her 20GB of raw digital photos...
Eg 2. How is watching youtube over 3g any different than reading email?

warrenr · 29th April 2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by grimwood

Yep I got one a few weeks ago to play with BlackShark, it's awesome. Apparently most in the flightsim world swear by it, and yeah I can see why. It's not bulky, just clips onto the headset, and config is easy, recentering is just a hotkey.

At work people are developing 3D stereo dome projection, I think that with some head tracking and decent input devices will give all of what VR offered. I don't think 3D game designers will need to change their way of doing things, it should all be done in the engine. Main problem with domes is they take up space.

is it fairly accurate? I want to try it on race07......... I tried a wiimote once and just couldnt aim or nothing : I'm a mouse sort of guy -

Did you get the trackir 5 pack? I'm still trying to work out the difference between the vector and the pro ultra pack.............From what I can see is I want the ultra for the sensor to sit on my headset - but I read on http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/...games-all.html
that theres a new vector expansion?

rm -rp ./Matt* · 29th April 2010, 1:23 PM

what about that yokels setup with the monitor stuck on top of the nerf gun a while back, that is as cool and efficient as you're gonna get. And because you're still aware of your surroundings you won't get injured. :s

grimwood · 29th April 2010, 1:30 PM

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Originally Posted by warrenr

is it fairly accurate? I want to try it on race07......... I tried a wiimote once and just couldnt aim or nothing : I'm a mouse sort of guy -

Did you get the trackir 5 pack? I'm still trying to work out the difference between the vector and the pro ultra pack.............From what I can see is I want the ultra for the sensor to sit on my headset - but I read on http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/...games-all.html
that theres a new vector expansion?

Yeah I got the pro, and it's very accurate for what it does. I haven't tried with the normal reflector, I just went straight to the pro because it clips on the headset nicely. I've only used it for controlling the view, so it doesn't need to be that accurate. I haven't tried it controlling the mouse in an unsupported game, I'm guessing that would be a disaster. It's not supposed to replace any existing peripherals, just adds a new dimension to it.

I hadn't heard of the vector before, it looks like it's just the normal reflector but for the old trackir 3.

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29th April 2010, 8:18 AM	#33
warrenr Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3150 Posts: 531	5 years on.........so are these mainstream yet?

29th April 2010, 10:50 AM	#35
warrenr Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3150 Posts: 531	not quite the same - but the Natural Point TrackIR 5 looks like the closest I'm going to get. anyone tried them?

29th April 2010, 11:34 AM	#37
nexx Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,365	VR has it's place in training scenarios etc. But people dont want to wear heavy goggles (same applies with 3D movies) and would rather sit still while using technology :P

29th April 2010, 12:19 PM	#41
flain Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,789	I remember paying like $10 at luna park for 5mins in a VR thingo. Graphics were pretty dodgy. Immersion was quite good though. I remember walking onto an elevator and hearing the guy say "look up" then thinking to myself wtf i am looking up. Then realising i had to actually tilt my head back to "look up". Then the elevator went up

29th April 2010, 12:26 PM	#42
Danthemanz Old School Admin Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,282	Surely we are getting somewhere with it now??? Isnt ATI talking about how Eyefinity is the first step towards a holodeck? 5 years off total immersion with LCDs? Think about the graphics and LCD technology and how far its come! I guess a lot has to do with the cost and lack of adoption. Sure we would all love something, but the rest of the world now has expectations of technology and isnt amazed by much any more, they just get annoyed when it isnt perfect. Eg. My ex cant understand why i cant email her 20GB of raw digital photos... Eg 2. How is watching youtube over 3g any different than reading email? __________________ At least 13 years and $20k worth of trades....

29th April 2010, 1:23 PM	#44
rm -rp ./Matt* Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: in the computer Posts: 621	what about that yokels setup with the monitor stuck on top of the nerf gun a while back, that is as cool and efficient as you're gonna get. And because you're still aware of your surroundings you won't get injured. :s