Fake Kingmax 256mb?

BLeR · 14th July 2001, 3:24 PM

Hello,

I just went outand brought a stick of Kingmax 256mb. I already had 2 x 128mb sticks of Kingmax, and am now questioning if I got what I paid for. My 2 x 128mb sticks have Kingmax stamped on the actual RAM chips, however my 256mb stick has MTI (MGI?) instead. It does have a Kingmax sticker on it, but that could be faked easily...

Can someone please do me a favour and have a look at their Kingmax stick? Preferably a 256mb stick. Im at work at the moment so can't get the serial number from the chip (I can compare these at Kingmax's website).

Any info is appreciative!

BLeR

JonZA · 14th July 2001, 5:29 PM

is it made with the tinyBGA stuff?

BLeR · 14th July 2001, 5:33 PM

Yeh its small but not as small as the Kingmax chips on the 128mb modules. Also, it says version 1.0 on the 256mb chip....I thought they were now at 1.2, or this could only be for the 128mb sticks.

DOH now I'm confused...

BLeR

max223 · 14th July 2001, 5:47 PM

dude, we recently bought 6 pieces of kingmax 256MB PC150, all have kingmax stamp on the chips and it's version 1.0. Don't know how much would that help bcos you are talking about the PC133 one.

Mako · 14th July 2001, 5:50 PM

well all the chips i have, have kingmax on them so i would check.
and the newer 128 and 256 are ver 1.0.
but the best thing to do will email www.kingmax.com.au and ask them.

oh yea i have pc150.

buddyholly · 14th July 2001, 7:25 PM

yeah mate - I just bought another 256Mb stick of the pc-150 from gamedude and the chips are exactly the same size as my other stick of knigmax pc 133 - only the 256 is double sided and the numbering on the chips is identical except for the last couple of digits

ie pc 133 ........A1A-07
pc 150 ........A2A-06

BLeR · 15th July 2001, 2:09 PM

Ok heres whats on the chip:

Sticker has:
MPGB63S-68K13
P160283.03 MAA

The actual RAM chips have the following on them:
KTI
TSV684T4A2A

I checked out Kingmaxs web site and found that the sticker information matches what a 256mb module should be. I wonder if KTI stands for Kingmax Technologies International....I also did a search for a review on Kingmax RAM and found one that was reviewing Kingmax/KTI RAM, so I guess I've got the right stuff.

Hopefully Kingmax reply to my email anyway

BLeR

max223 · 15th July 2001, 2:11 PM

where did you buy it?

BLeR · 15th July 2001, 2:19 PM

A place called Best Computers on the Gold Coast.

max223 · 15th July 2001, 2:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BLeR
A place called Best Computers on the Gold Coast.

No idea...

Fingers crossed the kingmax will get back on you. Good luck.

BLeR · 16th July 2001, 12:26 PM

Ok heres what I got back from Kingmax:

Dear Sir:

1.KTI chip: Is made by Kingmax USA ,mainly use for ibm,compaq,viking product ,system builder.price cheaper on qty order).
2.Kingmax chip: Is made by Kingmax taiwan,mainly use for the retail market.
No difference on the chip and quality.

256MB & 128MB: 256MB use 16 x8 chip (bigger) than 128MB 8x8 chip.But the new 128MB now also use 16x8 chip.

Jay

:

Looks like Kingmax might be stearing away from TinyBGA?

Anyway, at least I know its real

BLeR

14th July 2001, 3:24 PM	#1
BLeR Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gold Coast, QLD Posts: 399	Fake Kingmax 256mb? Hello, I just went outand brought a stick of Kingmax 256mb. I already had 2 x 128mb sticks of Kingmax, and am now questioning if I got what I paid for. My 2 x 128mb sticks have Kingmax stamped on the actual RAM chips, however my 256mb stick has MTI (MGI?) instead. It does have a Kingmax sticker on it, but that could be faked easily... Can someone please do me a favour and have a look at their Kingmax stick? Preferably a 256mb stick. Im at work at the moment so can't get the serial number from the chip (I can compare these at Kingmax's website). Any info is appreciative! BLeR

14th July 2001, 5:50 PM	#5
Mako Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Mornington Peninsula, Vic Posts: 808	well all the chips i have, have kingmax on them so i would check. and the newer 128 and 256 are ver 1.0. but the best thing to do will email www.kingmax.com.au and ask them. oh yea i have pc150. __________________ Transmission loss... Woot!

15th July 2001, 2:09 PM	#7
BLeR Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gold Coast, QLD Posts: 399	Ok heres whats on the chip: Sticker has: MPGB63S-68K13 P160283.03 MAA The actual RAM chips have the following on them: KTI TSV684T4A2A I checked out Kingmaxs web site and found that the sticker information matches what a 256mb module should be. I wonder if KTI stands for Kingmax Technologies International....I also did a search for a review on Kingmax RAM and found one that was reviewing Kingmax/KTI RAM, so I guess I've got the right stuff. Hopefully Kingmax reply to my email anyway BLeR Last edited by BLeR; 15th July 2001 at 2:18 PM.

14th July 2001, 5:29 PM	#2
JonZA Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Melb Posts: 72	is it made with the tinyBGA stuff?

14th July 2001, 5:33 PM	#3
BLeR Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gold Coast, QLD Posts: 399	Yeh its small but not as small as the Kingmax chips on the 128mb modules. Also, it says version 1.0 on the 256mb chip....I thought they were now at 1.2, or this could only be for the 128mb sticks. DOH now I'm confused... BLeR

14th July 2001, 5:47 PM	#4
max223 Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: NSW 2114 Posts: 1,382	dude, we recently bought 6 pieces of kingmax 256MB PC150, all have kingmax stamp on the chips and it's version 1.0. Don't know how much would that help bcos you are talking about the PC133 one.

14th July 2001, 7:25 PM	#6
buddyholly Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Adelaide Posts: 66	yeah mate - I just bought another 256Mb stick of the pc-150 from gamedude and the chips are exactly the same size as my other stick of knigmax pc 133 - only the 256 is double sided and the numbering on the chips is identical except for the last couple of digits ie pc 133 ........A1A-07 pc 150 ........A2A-06

15th July 2001, 2:11 PM	#8
max223 Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: NSW 2114 Posts: 1,382	where did you buy it?

15th July 2001, 2:19 PM	#9
BLeR Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gold Coast, QLD Posts: 399	A place called Best Computers on the Gold Coast.

16th July 2001, 12:26 PM	#11
BLeR Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gold Coast, QLD Posts: 399	Ok heres what I got back from Kingmax: Dear Sir: 1.KTI chip: Is made by Kingmax USA ,mainly use for ibm,compaq,viking product ,system builder.price cheaper on qty order). 2.Kingmax chip: Is made by Kingmax taiwan,mainly use for the retail market. No difference on the chip and quality. 256MB & 128MB: 256MB use 16 x8 chip (bigger) than 128MB 8x8 chip.But the new 128MB now also use 16x8 chip. Jay : Looks like Kingmax might be stearing away from TinyBGA? Anyway, at least I know its real BLeR