xpm 2600 can't o/c past 2300 stable? - Page 2

retz.x · 19th May 2005, 5:37 PM

Whats with the extremely loose timings? 2.5-7-7-11 @ 200MHz?!

You don't need to do that when you're just upping the multi...

kjmantis · 19th May 2005, 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retz.x

Whats with the extremely loose timings? 2.5-7-7-11 @ 200MHz?!

You don't need to do that when you're just upping the multi...

Well that's just it, i can't keep it stable at any tighter timings for some reason at that clock.

I might clock down to 11x200 and use tighter timings. Unless i have dodgey ram too!

bYrd · 19th May 2005, 9:49 PM

If you're having problems running your RAM at those specs @ 200FSB, I'd say that's also hindering your efforts to overclock.

If you're considering making the $$ investment on a new HSF, try pointing a desk fan at the case internals, and try overclocking then. If you're successful, more/better cooling is required.

JB

TMM · 19th May 2005, 11:33 PM

Or you could just leave the desk fan there... lol.

Put the ram on a divider to eliminate it from being the limiting factor

Headkicker · 20th May 2005, 9:31 AM

i got exactly the same CPU, i manage to get 200x12 prime stable. that's with 1.775 volts through it though.

temps are pretty shocking

idle: 53
load: 75

Revhead · 20th May 2005, 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headkicker

i got exactly the same CPU, i manage to get 200x12 prime stable. that's with 1.775 volts through it though.

temps are pretty shocking

idle: 53
load: 75

Pretty shocking is an understatement!

Revhead · 30th May 2005, 1:42 PM

So what happened?

MrSeanKon · 31st May 2005, 9:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headkicker

i got exactly the same CPU, i manage to get 200x12 prime stable. that's with 1.775 volts through it though.
temps are pretty shocking
idle: 53
load: 75

Reduce Vcore and buy an another heatsink!

What's your room temp?
In summer your CPU will fry...

Xm....
Take a look for 2600+ tutorial (click on my sign)..

groovetek · 31st May 2005, 9:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSeanKon

Reduce Vcore and buy an another heatsink!

What's your room temp?
In summer your CPU will fry...

no it won't... 1.775v is nothing for an xp chip... with my old xp chip... 1.775ghz could get me 2.6ghz

, and i didn't need to have a mega beast to cool it...

most extreme people would run xp-m's at 2.05-2.1v with phase change, and 1.95-2.0v with water. i could get mine to 2.7xghz with 1.875v, but my SFF's PSU wasn't good enough to sustain that (kept cutting off the power, but it was stable for sure). gosh that's a year ago now... good memories...

MrSeanKon · 31st May 2005, 9:42 AM

Wait a minute:
As you can read here is a Vcore poll many users of this forum do not overvoltage their CPUs...
OK sample is small.
As about me LOL I set teravolt

but my CPU is watercooled.
Last summer I fried a Barton (after two months L2 was 64K --> became Duron LOL)...

Anyway my opinion is above.

groovetek · 31st May 2005, 3:18 PM

u can't compare an xp chip with other CPU's... imo that poll isn't too good... it should specific and divided into classes...

regardless - you will find that 1.775volts is nothing for a barton chip. Most people would be willing to run this even on slightly-above-average air cooling, ie spire whisperrock or vantec aeroflow, etc... whereas owners of SP/SI-97's and SLK900s/volcano 12's would happily run 1.85+ volts... and high end watercooling ppl would definitely be willing to run up to 1.95-2.0v...

you can't look at the majority of people - because majority of people don't overclock - but the people who DO... would certainly be running their bartons at 1.75v and above without feeling worried at all - that's the point i'm trying to make...

i've owned (SADLY) 11 socket A chips in my time... and none have been running any less than 1.7v (not to mention stock vcore on tbirds was a crazy 1.85v), haha... most of them were run 1.85-1.90v at all times... none of them suffered from poor temps nor death

Melkor1337 · 31st May 2005, 3:46 PM

Did someone say 1.9-2v?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...th/2433mhz.jpg

I'd think tha M would do better than my XP chip, but again, cooling and 'bad chips' can make lots of difference

MrSeanKon · 31st May 2005, 8:32 PM

groovetek it is impossible to divide a poll into many classes....
I would like to have a general idea....
Otherwise we must open a poll for Thunderbirds, other one for Bartons etc....
And this is boring...

Of course many Bartons can run without problems with Vcores <= 1.75 but any user should have a better cooling not stock heatsink fan.

Melkor1337 I always run last year my XP 2200+ and 3 Bartons (2500+, 2600+, 2800+) with Vcores > 1.95.....
But I said above I fried 2500+

19th May 2005, 9:49 PM	#18
bYrd Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NE Melbourne Posts: 1,486	If you're having problems running your RAM at those specs @ 200FSB, I'd say that's also hindering your efforts to overclock. If you're considering making the $$ investment on a new HSF, try pointing a desk fan at the case internals, and try overclocking then. If you're successful, more/better cooling is required. JB __________________ MacTalk Australia

19th May 2005, 11:33 PM	#19
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20th May 2005, 9:31 AM	#20
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30th May 2005, 1:42 PM	#22
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31st May 2005, 9:42 AM	#25
MrSeanKon Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Athens in love with Anna! Posts: 506	Wait a minute: As you can read here is a Vcore poll many users of this forum do not overvoltage their CPUs... OK sample is small. As about me LOL I set teravolt but my CPU is watercooled. Last summer I fried a Barton (after two months L2 was 64K --> became Duron LOL)... Anyway my opinion is above. Last edited by MrSeanKon; 31st May 2005 at 9:43 AM.

19th May 2005, 5:37 PM	#16
retz.x Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Adelaide, 5052 Posts: 898	Whats with the extremely loose timings? 2.5-7-7-11 @ 200MHz?! You don't need to do that when you're just upping the multi...

31st May 2005, 3:18 PM	#26
groovetek Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SE Melbourne, 3150 Posts: 2,971	u can't compare an xp chip with other CPU's... imo that poll isn't too good... it should specific and divided into classes... regardless - you will find that 1.775volts is nothing for a barton chip. Most people would be willing to run this even on slightly-above-average air cooling, ie spire whisperrock or vantec aeroflow, etc... whereas owners of SP/SI-97's and SLK900s/volcano 12's would happily run 1.85+ volts... and high end watercooling ppl would definitely be willing to run up to 1.95-2.0v... you can't look at the majority of people - because majority of people don't overclock - but the people who DO... would certainly be running their bartons at 1.75v and above without feeling worried at all - that's the point i'm trying to make... i've owned (SADLY) 11 socket A chips in my time... and none have been running any less than 1.7v (not to mention stock vcore on tbirds was a crazy 1.85v), haha... most of them were run 1.85-1.90v at all times... none of them suffered from poor temps nor death __________________ DNA Tuning (Australia) Last edited by groovetek; 31st May 2005 at 3:23 PM.

31st May 2005, 3:46 PM	#27
Melkor1337 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 469	Did someone say 1.9-2v? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...th/2433mhz.jpg I'd think tha M would do better than my XP chip, but again, cooling and 'bad chips' can make lots of difference

31st May 2005, 8:32 PM	#28
MrSeanKon Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Athens in love with Anna! Posts: 506	groovetek it is impossible to divide a poll into many classes.... I would like to have a general idea.... Otherwise we must open a poll for Thunderbirds, other one for Bartons etc.... And this is boring... Of course many Bartons can run without problems with Vcores <= 1.75 but any user should have a better cooling not stock heatsink fan. Melkor1337 I always run last year my XP 2200+ and 3 Bartons (2500+, 2600+, 2800+) with Vcores > 1.95..... But I said above I fried 2500+