HTPC TV Out is NOT GOOD MATE

alpha0ne · 10th April 2005, 4:32 PM

OK i have just built an HTPC using the Coolermaster ATC-620C case (mATX) with an Asus P4S533-VM, Celery 1.8, 512MB DDR400, Leadtek DV2000, SB Live 5.1, 80GB Seagate HDD and an 440mx 64MB DDR AGP with TV out plugged into a SONY 68cm WEGA FS Trinitron

I am having a problem with the TV out when playing recorded TV programs or DVD disks

the picture is jumpy and the picture quality TV thru the DV2000 tuner is very average

could this be fixed with a better AGP card ??, ATM i am using an S-Video to RCA cable connected to the TV with sound from the SB Live

any input/help most appreciated

thetron · 10th April 2005, 4:56 PM

Have you checked the signel strenght for the TV card?

alpha0ne · 10th April 2005, 7:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetron

Have you checked the signel strenght for the TV card?

i have tuned the channels in but i am not sure about signal streangth?

fox1 · 10th April 2005, 8:08 PM

I'm pretty sure any graphics card w/ tv is a novelty.

If you want tv go for a dedicated card.

thetron · 11th April 2005, 9:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha0ne

i have tuned the channels in but i am not sure about signal streangth?

Yes the channel signel strength

alpha0ne · 11th April 2005, 3:08 PM

signal strength is fine and has nothing to do with stutter while playing back recorded TV

"dedicated card" ??

stutter can be one of 3 things IMHO, crappy AGP card, not enough CPU power which i doubt and maybe a dedicated HDD for recorded programs???

this is my first play with an HTPC so i am in the process of learning all the ins and outs

i am using the remote that came with my DV2000 which works OK and am going to buy a cordless trackball for using the HTPC for other tasks such as backing up my movies etc

fatang · 11th April 2005, 3:41 PM

AlphaOne, I don't know much about your Leadtek card (DV2000) but if you want to learn more about HD TV then I recommend the following two sites:

http://www.dtvforum.info/

and

http://forums.dvbowners.com/

Both of these sites have a number of people with a lot of experience in HD TV.

I have a DNTV Live card running on an Athalon 2100 with onboard graphics. Works OK with none of the problems you have experienced.

Hope this is of some help
Fatang

alpha0ne · 11th April 2005, 3:51 PM

thanks for the linkies fatang

i just thought i would try here first not expecting anything but now i have your supplied links i should be OK

cheers..........

alpha0ne · 11th April 2005, 4:11 PM

forgot to mention that the DV2000 is NOT high definition though normal TV is perfect when played onto my 19" monitor

thetron · 11th April 2005, 4:17 PM

Some HD channel will skip. Especially ABC HD

So i've heard cause of the encoding equipment ABC uses

alpha0ne · 11th April 2005, 4:30 PM

it is not HD, just normal TV reception

gizmo_melb · 11th April 2005, 4:33 PM

hiya,

RCA is the 'worst' TV video connection you can have, as it bundles all of the signals that make up the TV signal into the one cable.

Does your TV have any other video inputs (S-VHS, SCART or component)?

Generally ATI video cards are regarded as having the 'best' RCA output as they have very good hardware filters and provide nice clean video output. nVidia can be a bit 'smeary' sometimes, though I haven't tried my 6600GT's video output as yet.

Also the Leadtek DV2000 appears to only be an analogue TV tuner, so the analogue picture may not be the 'best' to begin with (I've never been impressed with any of the analogue TV tuners I've had - Lifeview, Pinnacle, Pineapplehead etc. all were very wishy washy).

Gizmo-melb

alpha0ne · 11th April 2005, 4:40 PM

yes i thought it may be the RCA

my TV has component so it looks like i will have to get another AGP card

i was going to try using my ATI 9800 but the TV-Out is not component

gizmo_melb · 11th April 2005, 6:23 PM

hiya,

there are mods/adaptors you can make/buy to get component output from ATI cards (usually only NTSC though so far as I know), otherwise I'd recommend buying an nVidia 6 series video card as I know they definately have component video output (the newer ATI's may as well, but I haven't been following them sorry).

Cheers,
Gizmo_melb

alpha0ne · 11th April 2005, 6:29 PM

made a few inquiries regarding an adaptor, you can get them in the states but will soon see if i can get one here

will keep you posted anyway

10th April 2005, 4:32 PM	#1
alpha0ne (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Under a Rock Posts: 434	HTPC TV Out is NOT GOOD MATE OK i have just built an HTPC using the Coolermaster ATC-620C case (mATX) with an Asus P4S533-VM, Celery 1.8, 512MB DDR400, Leadtek DV2000, SB Live 5.1, 80GB Seagate HDD and an 440mx 64MB DDR AGP with TV out plugged into a SONY 68cm WEGA FS Trinitron I am having a problem with the TV out when playing recorded TV programs or DVD disks the picture is jumpy and the picture quality TV thru the DV2000 tuner is very average could this be fixed with a better AGP card ??, ATM i am using an S-Video to RCA cable connected to the TV with sound from the SB Live any input/help most appreciated

10th April 2005, 4:56 PM	#2
thetron Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Internet Posts: 6,407	Have you checked the signel strenght for the TV card? __________________ Comments about other people's English Report poor post directly to the poster via PM (Never an admin). Please be helpful by including your advice and comments Go Powercycle it

11th April 2005, 3:08 PM	#6
alpha0ne (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Under a Rock Posts: 434	signal strength is fine and has nothing to do with stutter while playing back recorded TV "dedicated card" ?? stutter can be one of 3 things IMHO, crappy AGP card, not enough CPU power which i doubt and maybe a dedicated HDD for recorded programs??? this is my first play with an HTPC so i am in the process of learning all the ins and outs i am using the remote that came with my DV2000 which works OK and am going to buy a cordless trackball for using the HTPC for other tasks such as backing up my movies etc Last edited by alpha0ne; 11th April 2005 at 3:15 PM.

11th April 2005, 3:41 PM	#7
fatang Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 31	AlphaOne, I don't know much about your Leadtek card (DV2000) but if you want to learn more about HD TV then I recommend the following two sites: http://www.dtvforum.info/ and http://forums.dvbowners.com/ Both of these sites have a number of people with a lot of experience in HD TV. I have a DNTV Live card running on an Athalon 2100 with onboard graphics. Works OK with none of the problems you have experienced. Hope this is of some help Fatang __________________ fatang

11th April 2005, 4:11 PM	#9
alpha0ne (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Under a Rock Posts: 434	forgot to mention that the DV2000 is NOT high definition though normal TV is perfect when played onto my 19" monitor Last edited by alpha0ne; 11th April 2005 at 4:12 PM.

10th April 2005, 8:08 PM	#4
fox1 Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,030	I'm pretty sure any graphics card w/ tv is a novelty. If you want tv go for a dedicated card.

11th April 2005, 3:51 PM	#8
alpha0ne (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Under a Rock Posts: 434	thanks for the linkies fatang i just thought i would try here first not expecting anything but now i have your supplied links i should be OK cheers..........

11th April 2005, 4:17 PM	#10
thetron Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Internet Posts: 6,407	Some HD channel will skip. Especially ABC HD So i've heard cause of the encoding equipment ABC uses __________________ Comments about other people's English Report poor post directly to the poster via PM (Never an admin). Please be helpful by including your advice and comments Go Powercycle it Last edited by thetron; 11th April 2005 at 4:19 PM.

11th April 2005, 4:30 PM	#11
alpha0ne (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Under a Rock Posts: 434	it is not HD, just normal TV reception

11th April 2005, 4:33 PM	#12
gizmo_melb (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,011	hiya, RCA is the 'worst' TV video connection you can have, as it bundles all of the signals that make up the TV signal into the one cable. Does your TV have any other video inputs (S-VHS, SCART or component)? Generally ATI video cards are regarded as having the 'best' RCA output as they have very good hardware filters and provide nice clean video output. nVidia can be a bit 'smeary' sometimes, though I haven't tried my 6600GT's video output as yet. Also the Leadtek DV2000 appears to only be an analogue TV tuner, so the analogue picture may not be the 'best' to begin with (I've never been impressed with any of the analogue TV tuners I've had - Lifeview, Pinnacle, Pineapplehead etc. all were very wishy washy). Gizmo-melb

11th April 2005, 4:40 PM	#13
alpha0ne (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Under a Rock Posts: 434	yes i thought it may be the RCA my TV has component so it looks like i will have to get another AGP card i was going to try using my ATI 9800 but the TV-Out is not component

11th April 2005, 6:23 PM	#14
gizmo_melb (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,011	hiya, there are mods/adaptors you can make/buy to get component output from ATI cards (usually only NTSC though so far as I know), otherwise I'd recommend buying an nVidia 6 series video card as I know they definately have component video output (the newer ATI's may as well, but I haven't been following them sorry). Cheers, Gizmo_melb

11th April 2005, 6:29 PM	#15
alpha0ne (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Under a Rock Posts: 434	made a few inquiries regarding an adaptor, you can get them in the states but will soon see if i can get one here will keep you posted anyway