X800 > X800XL softmod?

brown0 · 11th June 2005, 12:38 PM

Hi all,
I'm going to purchase a PCI-E Gigabyte X800 some time next week. This card is almost definitely the best bang for buck card available to me at the moment (I have a budget). Recently i read a review of said card at hardcoreware.net:

http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-286-1.htm

This review suggested that it would be possible to softmod the Gigabyte X800 to an X800XL. Obviously this raised my attention, however I haven't been able to find anything about this softmod on the interweb. Since I am going to buy the card anyway, it's not a factor in my purchase, but it would be nice to know if I could get even a little bit more bang for my buck.

So, I turn to you guys and ask: Does anyone know if this softmod is possible, and more specifically has anyone tried it? If so, what were your results?

Thanks in advance

Browno

joe_lam65 · 12th June 2005, 3:51 PM

Yea im very interested aswell, about softmodding iit, i wonder are you able to? does anyone know?

Cheers

cletus · 13th June 2005, 9:31 AM

Ditto my interest.

TheBoss · 13th June 2005, 6:22 PM

Running that card at the moment (good choice if u'r on the budget)..but AFAIK no mods as of yet for PCIe cards!?

KYPREO · 13th June 2005, 10:04 PM

AFAIK the extra pipes in PCIx chips are disabled in hardware. They did not pass QA with all pipes enabled at the required clock speeds and were used in cheaper card configurations (x800 and x800pro). Some x800 pro chips can be softmodded, but I do not believe this chip used in the x800 is the same chip - correct me if I'm wrong, because this is just something I read in a few forums (which you can take with a grain of salt). I believe that the extra pipes are disabled on die, meaning they cannot be unlocked.

MorbosuS · 13th June 2005, 10:23 PM

moreover as KYPREO has said... they are HW disabled and market dynamics are such that every card capable of operating with full 16 pipes are going to be sold as XT's x850's etc (ATI simply cant make enough of these cards). Thus if you do unlock them they are certain to be defective pipes and produce artifacts.

Tomee · 14th June 2005, 12:33 PM

i was thinkgin this aswell

as im undecided on purchasing a x800 or a 6800??

aokman · 14th June 2005, 1:49 PM

The X800 cannot be softmodded or hardmodded except for a few "BUILT BY ATI" cards that have been going around. Other than that you will need to fork out the extra for a X800XL

Sparkk · 14th June 2005, 2:02 PM

Whats better the xpertvision or the gigabyte? or is there a better one altogether?

aokman · 14th June 2005, 2:28 PM

Xpertvision is better, Powercolor is the best though

external power helps the card out.

KYPREO · 14th June 2005, 2:50 PM

gigabyte is more expensive and has a passive cooler. the passive cooler is a bit of a worry with users/reviews reporting 80'C under load. This means it might not have much of an overclock in it unless you do something about the cooling - the reviews have shown there is minimal overclock in it. The gigabyte has the fastest memory clock @980Mhz however.

xpertvision is cheap and quick @900mhz memory but doesn't come bundled with software afaik. It uses active cooling and should has a higher performance ceiling than the gigabyte. by the way it uses the exact same memory as the gigabyte.

the powercolor card has DDR1 memory which is pretty shit compared to the GDDR3 you get with the other two cards. Not worth it, because the xpertvision outclocks it on the memory by 200mhz straight out of the box without overclocking.

xpertvision without a doubt!

Chamelion · 14th June 2005, 3:26 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....206951490&rd=1

Perhaps that one would softmod?

Matt.

aokman · 14th June 2005, 4:42 PM

Only some will unlock those ones on the ebay link appear to be rebranded Powercolor ones as they have the same coolers, theres a 99% chance it wont unlock either because it wont let you or the extra pipelines are faulty. It easier to just get a X800XL

Quote:

Originally Posted by KYPREO

the powercolor card has DDR1 memory which is pretty shit compared to the GDDR3 you get with the other two cards. Not worth it, because the xpertvision outclocks it on the memory by 200mhz straight out of the box without overclocking.

xpertvision without a doubt!

Take the Powercolor over the rest, get the X800 BRAVO edition which is $20 more and it will kick the ass off any other X800. It has GC16 - 1.6ns modules good for 600Mhz or 1.2ghz stock! Infact most X800 BRAVO cards have enough speed in em to catch the XL cards.

KYPREO · 14th June 2005, 4:53 PM

yeah I think the bravo edition is good with the 1.6ns memory, but it is still $430+, which is over $100 more expensive than the xpertvision. It definitely competes well against the gigabyte though!

I was comparing the non pro powercolor which is in the same price range as the xpertvision.

aokman · 14th June 2005, 5:01 PM

Can anyone confirm the specs on xpervisions site? they say its a 0.13nm process chip used on their X800 PCI-E's if it was there there is a very good chance it could unlock if it is 0.11nm then it wont happen though

11th June 2005, 12:38 PM	#1
brown0 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1	X800 > X800XL softmod? Hi all, I'm going to purchase a PCI-E Gigabyte X800 some time next week. This card is almost definitely the best bang for buck card available to me at the moment (I have a budget). Recently i read a review of said card at hardcoreware.net: http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-286-1.htm This review suggested that it would be possible to softmod the Gigabyte X800 to an X800XL. Obviously this raised my attention, however I haven't been able to find anything about this softmod on the interweb. Since I am going to buy the card anyway, it's not a factor in my purchase, but it would be nice to know if I could get even a little bit more bang for my buck. So, I turn to you guys and ask: Does anyone know if this softmod is possible, and more specifically has anyone tried it? If so, what were your results? Thanks in advance Browno

12th June 2005, 3:51 PM	#2
joe_lam65 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney 2170 Posts: 167	Yea im very interested aswell, about softmodding iit, i wonder are you able to? does anyone know? Cheers __________________ i7 3930K, GA-X79-UD7, HD5870 CF, 16gb Corsair Dominator,3xDell G2410 Eyefinity, Seasonic X750, Xonar D2X, OCZ vertex 2 120gb ssd 4x2tb Samsung, Corsair 800D, Pioneer 215, G15+g700, Z-5500, Waterloop: EK Supreme HF, MCP655+EK Top, XSPC RX360, EK Advanced 250 res Successful Trades: 150+worth over $15000 list available upon request

13th June 2005, 6:22 PM	#4
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13th June 2005, 10:23 PM	#6
MorbosuS Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Co. Cork Posts: 582	moreover as KYPREO has said... they are HW disabled and market dynamics are such that every card capable of operating with full 16 pipes are going to be sold as XT's x850's etc (ATI simply cant make enough of these cards). Thus if you do unlock them they are certain to be defective pipes and produce artifacts. __________________ Main System IE: AsusEEE PC, 1000h 40gb SSD, Sidux, Ubuntu, Gentoo Back In Aus: Q6600, 8600gts, 2gb ddr2, centOS 4.6, Sidux

14th June 2005, 12:33 PM	#7
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13th June 2005, 9:31 AM	#3
cletus Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 672	Ditto my interest.

13th June 2005, 10:04 PM	#5
KYPREO Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 580	AFAIK the extra pipes in PCIx chips are disabled in hardware. They did not pass QA with all pipes enabled at the required clock speeds and were used in cheaper card configurations (x800 and x800pro). Some x800 pro chips can be softmodded, but I do not believe this chip used in the x800 is the same chip - correct me if I'm wrong, because this is just something I read in a few forums (which you can take with a grain of salt). I believe that the extra pipes are disabled on die, meaning they cannot be unlocked.

14th June 2005, 1:49 PM	#8
aokman Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,052	The X800 cannot be softmodded or hardmodded except for a few "BUILT BY ATI" cards that have been going around. Other than that you will need to fork out the extra for a X800XL __________________ EpicPhotos.com.au - Image Is Everything Next Expedition - Storm Chasing with ETT from June 3rd, 2013

14th June 2005, 2:02 PM	#9
Sparkk Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toorak.melb.vic.3142 Posts: 844	Whats better the xpertvision or the gigabyte? or is there a better one altogether? __________________ Specs: DFI NF4 Ultra-D / AMD64 3200+ 939 Venice WK17 with Arctic Cooler / 2 x 512 Kingston Value DDR400 @ 3-3-3-7 / Galaxy 7900GT 256MB (Zalman VF900-CU) @ 553/800 / 24" Dell Widescreen LCD / 1 x 250 Gig HDD (WD) / Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter / DVD-Rom / Pioneer 109 DVD-R

14th June 2005, 2:28 PM	#10
aokman Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,052	Xpertvision is better, Powercolor is the best though external power helps the card out. __________________ EpicPhotos.com.au - Image Is Everything Next Expedition - Storm Chasing with ETT from June 3rd, 2013

14th June 2005, 2:50 PM	#11
KYPREO Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 580	gigabyte is more expensive and has a passive cooler. the passive cooler is a bit of a worry with users/reviews reporting 80'C under load. This means it might not have much of an overclock in it unless you do something about the cooling - the reviews have shown there is minimal overclock in it. The gigabyte has the fastest memory clock @980Mhz however. xpertvision is cheap and quick @900mhz memory but doesn't come bundled with software afaik. It uses active cooling and should has a higher performance ceiling than the gigabyte. by the way it uses the exact same memory as the gigabyte. the powercolor card has DDR1 memory which is pretty shit compared to the GDDR3 you get with the other two cards. Not worth it, because the xpertvision outclocks it on the memory by 200mhz straight out of the box without overclocking. xpertvision without a doubt!

14th June 2005, 3:26 PM	#12
Chamelion Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Scarness, Hervey Bay Posts: 9,806	http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....206951490&rd=1 Perhaps that one would softmod? Matt. __________________ Wanted to buy: Galaxy Nexus

14th June 2005, 4:53 PM	#14
KYPREO Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 580	yeah I think the bravo edition is good with the 1.6ns memory, but it is still $430+, which is over $100 more expensive than the xpertvision. It definitely competes well against the gigabyte though! I was comparing the non pro powercolor which is in the same price range as the xpertvision. Last edited by KYPREO; 14th June 2005 at 4:55 PM.

14th June 2005, 5:01 PM	#15
aokman Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 8,052	Can anyone confirm the specs on xpervisions site? they say its a 0.13nm process chip used on their X800 PCI-E's if it was there there is a very good chance it could unlock if it is 0.11nm then it wont happen though __________________ EpicPhotos.com.au - Image Is Everything Next Expedition - Storm Chasing with ETT from June 3rd, 2013