Web Page Hosting & Cable Internet - Page 2

IG-72 · 27th July 2005, 1:52 PM

I host a forum on my home connection. It's for 30 of my friends. I'm not going to pay a hosting company for that, and it gives me complete control over the site.

pyr0x · 27th July 2005, 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcTan

I believe it's the only port that's blocked by optus

They block more than 80. 25 (SMTP) is blocked as well and I think some windows networking ports and blocked to stop viruses spreading (445?).

andrewbt · 27th July 2005, 9:09 PM

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Why do ppl keep on trying to host a website off a HOME Connection

I do because I have a low volume traffic, its great for me because I have something a box that i can work on and potentially be doing something else any other times. OP if the box is for learning, go for it. External Hosting is an option if you soley want a website.

I've said it before, and I will say it again, charliebrown_au.... Shut Up. Just Shut up.

Rass · 27th July 2005, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by biatch

You'll be breaking your terms and conditions with Optus and will land yourself in trouble.

Quoted for truth.

If you want to run a server at your home, get a connection that specificaly allows it in your terms and conditions.

Gecko · 28th July 2005, 7:42 PM

From memory (don't quote me on this) optus doesn't have anything in the TOS against hosting servers - they just block port 80, 25 and a few others.

I host a server off my connection for a few low traffic sites for mates etc.

WolfenBits · 28th July 2005, 7:51 PM

Dude here is a good place to start learning http://www.dslwebserver.com/

FiShy · 28th July 2005, 9:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gecko

From memory (don't quote me on this) optus doesn't have anything in the TOS against hosting servers - they just block port 80, 25 and a few others.

I host a server off my connection for a few low traffic sites for mates etc.

Thomas

it breaks AUP, and there are more Ports blocked for sure :P

CaveDog · 29th July 2005, 8:59 PM

Jeasus, the guy is just asking how to do it.

Anyway, the way that you should do it, is start by purchasing a router. (if you purchase a router with built in hub/switch, then just delete the hub from diagram) Then you set it up like this.

Quote:

MODEM
|
ROUTER
|
HUB --------> XP Machine
\----> Server2K3

On the server, just setup a web server (pretty easy), then login to your router and forward port (you can make it up, but most people use 8080) '8080' to the IP address of the server2K3 machine and port 80.

Then when you register your Domain, simply direct it to your public IP address
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080.

It wont be fast, it wont be legal. But it will work.

Also, I just had a thought, you could not run the router, and use your 2k3 machine as your router.

pyr0x · 29th July 2005, 9:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CaveDog

It wont be fast, it wont be legal. But it will work.

You mean "will be against the AUP" right?

SteakTheMooCow · 29th July 2005, 9:09 PM

Er, as for Apache, the Other Operating System's forum talks about it alot. Its the same bird with a different setup, but all the config files are the same.

In reality, save some dosh and run a FreeBSD or *nix server maybe? If its primarily for the Web Hosting stuff, its great. Otherwise, there are ways to run active directory etc. off a *nix server.

OpenSource is hella friendly and open about stuff, so if you're afraid, drop us a line in that forum or google what you need

Trust me, there are enough of us out there to cater for any number of stupid questions. I know, I still ask a fair few.

Willo · 31st July 2005, 7:08 PM

I've been looking around and it seems that Optus for one have no clue about their own products.

I spent 1hr on the phone on Friday. In the end they told me a Team Leader would call me back. Yeah, 08:30 am Saturday Morning, d&^k h@%ds.

Then they said absolutely no way to host on residential plan I'd have to go over to business. Then the team leader said I'd have to ring them on MOnday. What a bunch of idiotss, they kept me on a phone for over two hourse in the end, couldn't answer half my questions then couldn't call Business on my behalf. Their customer service is knackered and they obviously don't want to keep customers.

I have had everything with them for about 4 years, Mobile, Home phones and cable internet on an unlimited plan and they say they can't offer me anything to keep me as a customer.

So, can I run ADSL on Optus Lines, eg:- if I disconnect with them and go over to say IINet, will ADSL run through the optus wires?????

Help

Willo

Gumby · 31st July 2005, 9:24 PM

What exactly do you want to know? Optus have port 80 blocked and unless you run the webserver on a non standard port then you can't host a webserver.

Also if your phone is over the optus cable then you cannot get adsl. You would have to revert back to a telstra line, then hope and pray that it can take adsl.

Oblong Cheese · 31st July 2005, 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Willo

There is two big reasons for this project. One to put things I learn in MCSE to practise (I will be doing CCNA shortly after) and the second is to see how much interest I get in a concept I am trialling at the moment.

Have you thought about Linux?

The reason I ask is because Linux is gaining support everywhere, and if you're moving into the IT industry it can't be a bad thing to say "I know Linux" -- as I'm sure you're aware, basically any and all flavour can be downloaded free, and you can do what you like with it (pretty much). There are textbooks available, and distributions like Fedora even come with massive manuals that tell you all about everything to do with the operating system.

What's more, most flavours are free, and the ones that aren't only cost you due to manufacturing costs (CDs, manuals etc).

Willo · 31st July 2005, 10:33 PM

I know Optus block port 80. If I run it on another port will people be able to access it from the Internet?

So if I am on the Optus Cable network I can't get ADSL????

Gumby · 1st August 2005, 8:30 AM

Yes, but they would have to specify the port number, ie http://www.example.com:1234/ or you have to run some sort of masking/redirection service (dyndns may provide this).

Masking they generally load up the initial page from their server then your page is done as a full paged frame within this. Downside is that the page is always your domain name only. With redirection it just means that the user first goes to their server then it redirects back to yours with the port number.

Regarding ADSL its just dependant on how your phone is physically connected. Whether your on cable internet or tv is irrelevant.

27th July 2005, 1:52 PM	#16
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28th July 2005, 7:42 PM	#20
Gecko Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,722	From memory (don't quote me on this) optus doesn't have anything in the TOS against hosting servers - they just block port 80, 25 and a few others. I host a server off my connection for a few low traffic sites for mates etc. Last edited by Gecko; 30th March 2007 at 3:39 PM.

28th July 2005, 7:51 PM	#21
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31st July 2005, 9:24 PM	#27
Gumby Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,710	What exactly do you want to know? Optus have port 80 blocked and unless you run the webserver on a non standard port then you can't host a webserver. Also if your phone is over the optus cable then you cannot get adsl. You would have to revert back to a telstra line, then hope and pray that it can take adsl. __________________ Green Gumby Photography Equipment Gallery

1st August 2005, 8:30 AM	#30
Gumby Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,710	Yes, but they would have to specify the port number, ie http://www.example.com:1234/ or you have to run some sort of masking/redirection service (dyndns may provide this). Masking they generally load up the initial page from their server then your page is done as a full paged frame within this. Downside is that the page is always your domain name only. With redirection it just means that the user first goes to their server then it redirects back to yours with the port number. Regarding ADSL its just dependant on how your phone is physically connected. Whether your on cable internet or tv is irrelevant. __________________ Green Gumby Photography Equipment Gallery

29th July 2005, 9:09 PM	#25
SteakTheMooCow (Taking a Break) Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,070	Er, as for Apache, the Other Operating System's forum talks about it alot. Its the same bird with a different setup, but all the config files are the same. In reality, save some dosh and run a FreeBSD or nix server maybe? If its primarily for the Web Hosting stuff, its great. Otherwise, there are ways to run active directory etc. off a nix server. OpenSource is hella friendly and open about stuff, so if you're afraid, drop us a line in that forum or google what you need Trust me, there are enough of us out there to cater for any number of stupid questions. I know, I still ask a fair few.

31st July 2005, 7:08 PM	#26
Willo Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 803	I've been looking around and it seems that Optus for one have no clue about their own products. I spent 1hr on the phone on Friday. In the end they told me a Team Leader would call me back. Yeah, 08:30 am Saturday Morning, d&^k h@%ds. Then they said absolutely no way to host on residential plan I'd have to go over to business. Then the team leader said I'd have to ring them on MOnday. What a bunch of idiotss, they kept me on a phone for over two hourse in the end, couldn't answer half my questions then couldn't call Business on my behalf. Their customer service is knackered and they obviously don't want to keep customers. I have had everything with them for about 4 years, Mobile, Home phones and cable internet on an unlimited plan and they say they can't offer me anything to keep me as a customer. So, can I run ADSL on Optus Lines, eg:- if I disconnect with them and go over to say IINet, will ADSL run through the optus wires????? Help Willo

31st July 2005, 10:33 PM	#29
Willo Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 803	I know Optus block port 80. If I run it on another port will people be able to access it from the Internet? So if I am on the Optus Cable network I can't get ADSL????