Tyan MPX and Dual 1Ghz Durons running fine here!

leperMessiah · 23rd March 2002, 10:00 PM

Just a note to all potential SMP users -

YES IT DOES WORK.

I have

Tyan MPX
Dual 1Ghz@1.1 Duron's (obviously Morgan)
512Mb ECC DDR
40 Gb Maxtor and 40Gb IBM HDD (broken raid - refused IBM for replacement)
GF4MX
40*32*16 Liteon
16* DVD
250Mb ZIP, internal
LS120, internal
and yes 3.5" FDD
Intel 10/100 Pro management NIC (local network)
3Com 10/100 NIC (for ADSL)
Lifeview 3000 TV
IDE controller card
SB Live!
56Kbs Internal modem (for faxes)

Also C500 laptop, P133 laptop with inbuilt printer and P75 pocket size libretto running win95.

Backup machine Dual C466 with 256Mb SdRam, 9Gb + 4Gb SCSI HDD, SCSI CD, Intel 740 AGP, Some cool Yamaha sound card + 2 Intel 10/100 NIC's

Backup backup machine P-Pro200 (256 cache), 96Mb EDO Ram, 2Gb HDD, S3 Trio, original Sound blaster, Intle 10/100 NIC

Sitting around: machine1 Dual P3 600 server, no drives as yet, 128Mb ECC SDRam.

Win98 Checking machine Cyrix233@200, 64Mb, 800Mb HDD, S3, no sound, for running win98 app's.

Last Ditch ADSL checking machine Apple PowerMac 7600/132, 48Mb, 2Gb SCSI, OS 8.6 - only used to fuck with Telstra.

Uhm, OK, fun begins when I ring Telstra and say "You have a problem"

Telstra Reply "Reinstall networking"

"On six different machines? Including Enternet and RasPPPoE ? Including win2k, win98, winME and Mac OS8.6"

Telstra Reply "sorry you are using unsupported software and it sounds like you are on a network we can't support you"

"Listen Retard, Six machines, 4 OS's and 2 clients can't be wrong there is a problem at your end - please create a case"

Telstra "drivell, snot, and crap...fob...fob...fob"

Me - takes it to TCIO

End result 5 months free ADSL extra on top of the rest freely given by Telstra (total 7 months free now

) and a free dial up account.

Moral of story Dont drink beer while posting.

Oh, and SMP DURONS DO WORK IN TYAN MPX

Pengo · 24th March 2002, 8:29 AM

G'day

What did you do to get the duron 1ghz morgan cpus to run on the tyan board in dual config? Did you have to connect any bridges/downloaded any bios updates?

Or did it work out of the box, ie you installed both cpus and booted the pc and the board recognised both cpus at post?

So bascially what I'm asking is, if i went out and bout a Tyan MPX motherboard and 2 morgan (1ghz) cpus it'll work straight out of the box - no fiddling around?

Also i take it your running Win2k Pro?

Well I hope your folding for OCAU since you have some power on ya hands!

Pengo

VooDoo · 24th March 2002, 9:37 AM

You did know that the Tyan MPX works with 2 sticks of standard ram. you didnt have to get the ECC but it does make it easier to upgrade to 3+ sticks in the future. the Asus board is the same but the gigabyte board needs ECC

leperMessiah · 24th March 2002, 11:05 AM

Works straight out of the box no fiddling.

I bought ECC for 2 reasons - firstly cheaper in the long run, as when I add more RAM I am not going to have to go out and buy all new sticks. Secondly this is my main work machine - I have had so many troubles over the last year that I am prepared to pay the money in all dept's to make this as stable and reliable as possible.

VooDoo · 24th March 2002, 8:54 PM

Good call.

I upgraded from a Tyan MP that required ECC so i had some anyway. I also got 2 x 512mb Corsair for the new MOS gaming server which i just upgraded to a dual 1700+ with a Tyan MPX mobo

leperMessiah · 24th March 2002, 10:07 PM

Now I have stable hardware, if only I could get a stable OS to run all my programs

And NO linux doesn't run MOHAA.

wipeout · 25th March 2002, 8:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by leperMessiah
Now I have stable hardware, if only I could get a stable OS to run all my programs

And NO linux doesn't run MOHAA.

WinXP Pro? Mine runs stable, now that I've installed the latest Detonators. Of course, I needed to lock in the refresh rates for gaming, and ensure that whenever I play games I exit out of Windows Messenger. It took a bit of work, but now this thing is solid, and did I mention "fast"?

Rogue · 25th March 2002, 11:44 AM

I'm glad your WinXP is stable - mine runs fine for about a week, and then completely shits itself - right after a Miscrosoft Update is completed (surprise surprise). It refuses to even load safe mode, dying at amdagp.sys.

MicorShaft don't have a solution, and claim it's a hardware fault (even though nothing has changed, and reinstalling Windows fixes the problem.

leperMessiah · 25th March 2002, 1:23 PM

Stable like my win2K which works fine then every so often blue screens for no apparent reason about once a week at this stage.

One off cases don't constitute a stable OS unfortunately. I personally have winME on a Gateway Laptop amazingly stable, plugged in about 60 network cards and 20 modems to test, never missed a beat and we all know networking and windows mix like oil and water. But if a customer wants ME above my recommendations then that voids all warranty except hardware from me, same with XP.

It would be nice to have something that worked well on every machine it was installed on, right the first time and not require three installs to get it to take correctly. Did I hear someone say MacOS ?

It will be nice when someone ports this across to x86 arcitecture now that it runs on a FreeBSD (?) base. Apple and Linux could then collude, oh yeah - real competition.

VooDoo · 26th March 2002, 12:09 AM

Rogue the agp problem is a known bug. dont use the latest AGP driver on XP. in fact dont use anything except the one that comes with XP. its actaullt AMD's driver thats killing XP

look on www.2cpu.com forums for more info or PM me

Rogue · 26th March 2002, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VooDoo
Rogue the agp problem is a known bug. dont use the latest AGP driver on XP. in fact dont use anything except the one that comes with XP. its actaullt AMD's driver thats killing XP

look on www.2cpu.com forums for more info or PM me

Yeah - I found all that out after the fact. Now when I set up WinXP I make sure to disable the automatic updates so this doesn't occur.

I just find it highly amusing that MicroShaft can claim this is a hardware problem, and not admit that it's their automatic update that is to blame.

leperMessiah · 19th April 2002, 8:07 AM

bump - as Dual Duron seems to be like the old celeron SMP question - every SMP newb asks it but doesn't look for the answer first.

kevo · 29th April 2002, 12:35 PM

thinking about going dual duron 1.2 or 1.3g but only if they will run at 133 mhz on the tyan mpx board any one tried this yet can't see why they wouldn,t.

500Nm · 1st May 2002, 12:07 AM

leperMessiah,
What type of work are you doing on this dual Morgan ?
Thanks

leperMessiah · 1st May 2002, 12:38 PM

Games and surfing.

I do some tech support still and with this machine I can hot swap IDE HDD's (most of the time), so I can run virus scans and backups easily while still playing MOHAA at the same time

It really is like having two machines in one (have a dual input monitor as well).

23rd March 2002, 10:00 PM	#1
leperMessiah Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,242	Tyan MPX and Dual 1Ghz Durons running fine here! Just a note to all potential SMP users - YES IT DOES WORK. I have Tyan MPX Dual 1Ghz@1.1 Duron's (obviously Morgan) 512Mb ECC DDR 40 Gb Maxtor and 40Gb IBM HDD (broken raid - refused IBM for replacement) GF4MX 403216 Liteon 16* DVD 250Mb ZIP, internal LS120, internal and yes 3.5" FDD Intel 10/100 Pro management NIC (local network) 3Com 10/100 NIC (for ADSL) Lifeview 3000 TV IDE controller card SB Live! 56Kbs Internal modem (for faxes) Also C500 laptop, P133 laptop with inbuilt printer and P75 pocket size libretto running win95. Backup machine Dual C466 with 256Mb SdRam, 9Gb + 4Gb SCSI HDD, SCSI CD, Intel 740 AGP, Some cool Yamaha sound card + 2 Intel 10/100 NIC's Backup backup machine P-Pro200 (256 cache), 96Mb EDO Ram, 2Gb HDD, S3 Trio, original Sound blaster, Intle 10/100 NIC Sitting around: machine1 Dual P3 600 server, no drives as yet, 128Mb ECC SDRam. Win98 Checking machine Cyrix233@200, 64Mb, 800Mb HDD, S3, no sound, for running win98 app's. Last Ditch ADSL checking machine Apple PowerMac 7600/132, 48Mb, 2Gb SCSI, OS 8.6 - only used to fuck with Telstra. Uhm, OK, fun begins when I ring Telstra and say "You have a problem" Telstra Reply "Reinstall networking" "On six different machines? Including Enternet and RasPPPoE ? Including win2k, win98, winME and Mac OS8.6" Telstra Reply "sorry you are using unsupported software and it sounds like you are on a network we can't support you" "Listen Retard, Six machines, 4 OS's and 2 clients can't be wrong there is a problem at your end - please create a case" Telstra "drivell, snot, and crap...fob...fob...fob" Me - takes it to TCIO End result 5 months free ADSL extra on top of the rest freely given by Telstra (total 7 months free now ) and a free dial up account. Moral of story Dont drink beer while posting. Oh, and SMP DURONS DO WORK IN TYAN MPX Last edited by leperMessiah; 24th March 2002 at 1:11 AM.

24th March 2002, 9:37 AM	#3
VooDoo Large Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Drag Rehab Center Posts: 11,262	You did know that the Tyan MPX works with 2 sticks of standard ram. you didnt have to get the ECC but it does make it easier to upgrade to 3+ sticks in the future. the Asus board is the same but the gigabyte board needs ECC __________________ "To have more happy employees, first you must have more happy employers"

24th March 2002, 8:54 PM	#5
VooDoo Large Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Drag Rehab Center Posts: 11,262	Good call. I upgraded from a Tyan MP that required ECC so i had some anyway. I also got 2 x 512mb Corsair for the new MOS gaming server which i just upgraded to a dual 1700+ with a Tyan MPX mobo __________________ "To have more happy employees, first you must have more happy employers"

25th March 2002, 11:44 AM	#8
Rogue Old Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kellyville NSW Posts: 3,679	I'm glad your WinXP is stable - mine runs fine for about a week, and then completely shits itself - right after a Miscrosoft Update is completed (surprise surprise). It refuses to even load safe mode, dying at amdagp.sys. MicorShaft don't have a solution, and claim it's a hardware fault (even though nothing has changed, and reinstalling Windows fixes the problem. __________________ In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penises, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship. Power corrupts. Power failure corrupts absolutely.

25th March 2002, 1:23 PM	#9
leperMessiah Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,242	Stable like my win2K which works fine then every so often blue screens for no apparent reason about once a week at this stage. One off cases don't constitute a stable OS unfortunately. I personally have winME on a Gateway Laptop amazingly stable, plugged in about 60 network cards and 20 modems to test, never missed a beat and we all know networking and windows mix like oil and water. But if a customer wants ME above my recommendations then that voids all warranty except hardware from me, same with XP. It would be nice to have something that worked well on every machine it was installed on, right the first time and not require three installs to get it to take correctly. Did I hear someone say MacOS ? It will be nice when someone ports this across to x86 arcitecture now that it runs on a FreeBSD (?) base. Apple and Linux could then collude, oh yeah - real competition. Last edited by leperMessiah; 25th March 2002 at 1:27 PM.

24th March 2002, 8:29 AM	#2
Pengo (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Melbourne. Posts: 70	G'day What did you do to get the duron 1ghz morgan cpus to run on the tyan board in dual config? Did you have to connect any bridges/downloaded any bios updates? Or did it work out of the box, ie you installed both cpus and booted the pc and the board recognised both cpus at post? So bascially what I'm asking is, if i went out and bout a Tyan MPX motherboard and 2 morgan (1ghz) cpus it'll work straight out of the box - no fiddling around? Also i take it your running Win2k Pro? Well I hope your folding for OCAU since you have some power on ya hands! Pengo

24th March 2002, 11:05 AM	#4
leperMessiah Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,242	Works straight out of the box no fiddling. I bought ECC for 2 reasons - firstly cheaper in the long run, as when I add more RAM I am not going to have to go out and buy all new sticks. Secondly this is my main work machine - I have had so many troubles over the last year that I am prepared to pay the money in all dept's to make this as stable and reliable as possible.

24th March 2002, 10:07 PM	#6
leperMessiah Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,242	Now I have stable hardware, if only I could get a stable OS to run all my programs And NO linux doesn't run MOHAA.

26th March 2002, 12:09 AM	#10
VooDoo Large Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Drag Rehab Center Posts: 11,262	Rogue the agp problem is a known bug. dont use the latest AGP driver on XP. in fact dont use anything except the one that comes with XP. its actaullt AMD's driver thats killing XP look on www.2cpu.com forums for more info or PM me __________________ "To have more happy employees, first you must have more happy employers"

19th April 2002, 8:07 AM	#12
leperMessiah Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,242	bump - as Dual Duron seems to be like the old celeron SMP question - every SMP newb asks it but doesn't look for the answer first.

29th April 2002, 12:35 PM	#13
kevo Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 78	thinking about going dual duron 1.2 or 1.3g but only if they will run at 133 mhz on the tyan mpx board any one tried this yet can't see why they wouldn,t. Last edited by kevo; 29th April 2002 at 4:09 PM.

1st May 2002, 12:07 AM	#14
500Nm Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne Posts: 209	leperMessiah, What type of work are you doing on this dual Morgan ? Thanks

1st May 2002, 12:38 PM	#15
leperMessiah Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,242	Games and surfing. I do some tech support still and with this machine I can hot swap IDE HDD's (most of the time), so I can run virus scans and backups easily while still playing MOHAA at the same time It really is like having two machines in one (have a dual input monitor as well).