Suggest me a pda

strongbad · 25th March 2006, 12:59 AM

I'm looking for a pda

Something with a hard drive (doesnt have to be built in, i can throw in a CF microdrive i guess), very little delay in loading programs, play mp3s, play divx/xvid perfectly (~30fps), large bright screen so watching divx wont give me square eyes. Gotta have wifi, bluetooth, browser. Gotta have standard 3.5mm headphone jack so i can plug it into a speaker system.

Gotta be FAST! IF it were to double as a mobile it would help, but not fully necessary.

Recommend me one!

strongbad · 25th March 2006, 1:17 AM

Or perhaps an SD slot - which would be cheaper, a 4gb microdrive or a 2gb/4gb sd card? Would they behave in the same way?

I've heard that sometimes the memory contents get erased when the battery runs out, does this apply to the sd card (flash memory)?

finnigan001 · 25th March 2006, 2:39 AM

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=456289 this should answer alot of your questions.

kimnkk · 25th March 2006, 9:09 AM

The HP HX4700 for sure. The screen is the biggest you can get for a PDA and by far the best you can get for a PDA. Its got Intel's fastest, 624MHz, XScale processor, a 3.5mm jack (that is the only one to accept MIC input as well), 802.11b, bluetooth, both CF type II and SD card slots, and if you want, HP just released the Windows Mobile 5 upgrade for it.

Jaffa_Cree · 25th March 2006, 9:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kimnkk

The HP HX4700 for sure. The screen is the biggest you can get for a PDA and by far the best you can get for a PDA. Its got Intel's fastest, 624MHz, XScale processor, a 3.5mm jack (that is the only one to accept MIC input as well), 802.11b, bluetooth, both CF type II and SD card slots, and if you want, HP just released the Windows Mobile 5 upgrade for it.

You cant go wrong with the HX4700, but as another alternative, the Dell Axim X51 is another good choice. I say get the one that is cheaper of the two

dajvid · 26th March 2006, 8:09 PM

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which would be cheaper, a 4gb microdrive or a 2gb/4gb sd card? Would they behave in the same way?

A 4gb microdrive is cheaper than a 4gb SD card, however the solid state SD cards would be faster than an microdrive (sounds like speed is an issue for you). Google some benchmarks to determine speed comparisons between SD and microdrives (low speed SD cards will be slower than the microdrive, however the fastest SD cards will beat the microdrive).

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I've heard that sometimes the memory contents get erased when the battery runs out, does this apply to the sd card (flash memory)?

This does not apply to SD cards (otherwise owners of digital cameras and other gadgets would be quite unhappy). SD cards hold their state without a battery.

The memory on many PDAs do require a battery to hold its state, however some newer PDAs are built with NV (non-volatile) RAM that hold its state without a battery. There is a slight performance hit for NVRAM vs. ordinary RAM.

Ta,
Dave.

pyriX · 26th March 2006, 8:23 PM

My Sony Clie Th55 and 2gb Memory Stick duo works nicely... Though they dont sell them any more - stupid fuking sony, made best Palm PDA's for years, then decided there wasnt enough profit in it, so they ditched palm. Sighs /rant

Anyways, if u r buying new today, a lifedrive would probably suite your purposes well, as would the Hx4700 and X51v mentioned earlier. Dont settle for 240x320 res, get at least 320x480, at that res, which I have on my TH55, the screen looks suberb, videos look awesome, and think the pixel density (pixels per square centimetre), is greater than my LG L1717S LCD. Have seen the Toshiba e800 with VGA screen, and they look nice too.

SD cards would be fast enough for what you want, however your main cause of bad movie quality is going to be response time in the LCD. IF you do chose to go the Compact Flash route, same guy that owned the e800 brought an iPod Mini, grabbed the MicroDrive from that, and stuck it, ended up being cheaper than buying a standalone microdrive. Not sure how he did it, but have seen it in action, methinks google it, as mini's can be found secondhand these days cheap, as the nano's came out, and everyone wanted one they could snap between their fingers.

strongbad · 27th March 2006, 12:48 AM

I saw the hx4700 in a store, the thing is way too big to fit in the pocket. It absolutely needs to fit in a pocket, otherwise there would be no point. I carry no man-bag. :P

The large screen would be nice but if it compromises the pda's size, then it would have to be reprioritised. Size is a very important factor to me, its gotta fit in the pocket / be compact.

the dells size is a bit more appropriate

id like to have the phone feature, but i realise that there probably wont be a pda out there that will suit ALL my needs

any suggestions for pdas with built in phones?

Gecko · 27th March 2006, 5:42 AM

I've got a Palm TX with a 1gb SD card.

Fits in my pocket perfectly and I have to say its one of the best devices I've ever got.

technophiliac · 27th March 2006, 12:00 PM

microdrives are noted for using a lot more battery power than cf and sd storage cards. If you were to buy a microdrive or storage card equivalent id recommend the storage card.

if you want a phone and money is no object get a HTC universal (high tech computer corporation)
or what is known as a many a different thing in different countries...

to australians they know it as the imate JASJAR.

HTC produce the best series of mobile phone units you can buy IMO

features the 520mhz pxa272 processor , a VGA screen although it only has one expansion slot. It has a clamshell design with the base being an extendable keyboard.

here ismore information about HTC and HTC phones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Te...er_Corporation

if you dont want a phone and want compactedness the next best thing is X51V from DELL

delpieropadova · 27th March 2006, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strongbad

I saw the hx4700 in a store, the thing is way too big to fit in the pocket. It absolutely needs to fit in a pocket, otherwise there would be no point. I carry no man-bag. :P

The large screen would be nice but if it compromises the pda's size, then it would have to be reprioritised. Size is a very important factor to me, its gotta fit in the pocket / be compact.

the dells size is a bit more appropriate

id like to have the phone feature, but i realise that there probably wont be a pda out there that will suit ALL my needs

any suggestions for pdas with built in phones?

"ETEN M500" PocketPC/quadband GSM phone. Give it a 2 Gb Sandisk Ultra SD card, and you're set.

Best part: Rivals/beat the performance of the more popular HTC/O2 phones, doesn't require the more expensive miniSD card, and costs only approximately AU$750 in Australia. If you're willing to buy that overseas like I did, I bought it for $560 total cost from Switzerland. See staticice.com.au or eBay.

Definitely my best bargain buy for 2006, and this PPC pretty much runs my life.

technophiliac · 27th March 2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by delpieropadova

"ETEN M500" PocketPC/quadband GSM phone. Give it a 2 Gb Sandisk Ultra SD card, and you're set.

Best part: Rivals/beat the performance of the more popular HTC/O2 phones, doesn't require the more expensive miniSD card, and costs only approximately AU$750 in Australia. If you're willing to buy that overseas like I did, I bought it for $560 total cost from Switzerland. See staticice.com.au or eBay.

Definitely my best bargain buy for 2006, and this PPC pretty much runs my life.

i wouldnt recommend this one if you want a high end pda/phone because this device is marketed to compete with the low end older and cheaper HTC phones.

e.g. the first O2 pda/phone released in australia.
You can tell by the processor it has "Samsung S3C2440A processor at 400 MHz" which is not as good as the processor on board the first O2 pda/phone releasesd in australia. The "XDA".
So i think you are misleading by saying it is more powerful.
It has nice features like a camera but IMO i dont like mobile phone cameras because they use CMOS and the quality is awful and waste of time/resources.

For $750 ( you're looking at the equivalent of a $400 non-phone PDA with this thing. )

If you want this i would recommend any O2 XDA device over it because they have better processor, similar price, some have better OS and nicer features.

delpieropadova · 27th March 2006, 3:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by technophiliac

i wouldnt recommend this one if you want a high end pda/phone because this device is marketed to compete with the low end older and cheaper HTC phones.

e.g. the first O2 pda/phone released in australia.
You can tell by the processor it has "Samsung S3C2440A processor at 400 MHz" which is not as good as the processor on board the first O2 pda/phone releasesd in australia. The "XDA".
So i think you are misleading by saying it is more powerful.
It has nice features like a camera but IMO i dont like mobile phone cameras because they use CMOS and the quality is awful and waste of time/resources.

For $750 ( you're looking at the equivalent of a $400 non-phone PDA with this thing. )

If you want this i would recommend any O2 XDA device over it because they have better processor, similar price, some have better OS and nicer features.

http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/rev...-m500-en.shtml

That's only one of the few independent reviews that show the benchmark scores of the ETEN M500 versus the comparable HTC/O2. Looks to me like the HTC (the O2s) got a can of whoop-ass opened on it.

Of course, if you compare the ETEN M500 versus the very latest O2, that might be a different story, but I don't think they benched the M500 versus the latest O2s. Then again, the latest O2s cost like a few hundred more.

strongbad · 27th March 2006, 8:02 PM

the dell is probably what i'd be leaning towards

is there anything similiar to the dell with a phone in it? a phone and a pda seperate would be a bit of a bitch.

technophiliac · 27th March 2006, 10:25 PM

you can interface the pda with a bluetooth phone... link u can control it and receive calls n stuff via bluetooth

thats what i'd do if i had a bluetooth phone...

personally i wouldnt buy a pda/phone id just do this.

sorry i dont know much about it but i know you can do like this with software n stuff...

but yeh u cant buy a pda/phone thats as good as the x50v like one that has the graphics accelerator.

the closest you're gonna get to the x50v is one of the best ones from HTC

thats all i can say really...

25th March 2006, 12:59 AM	#1
strongbad Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Toowoomba Posts: 371	Suggest me a pda I'm looking for a pda Something with a hard drive (doesnt have to be built in, i can throw in a CF microdrive i guess), very little delay in loading programs, play mp3s, play divx/xvid perfectly (~30fps), large bright screen so watching divx wont give me square eyes. Gotta have wifi, bluetooth, browser. Gotta have standard 3.5mm headphone jack so i can plug it into a speaker system. Gotta be FAST! IF it were to double as a mobile it would help, but not fully necessary. Recommend me one!

25th March 2006, 2:39 AM	#3
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27th March 2006, 5:42 AM	#9
Gecko Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,797	I've got a Palm TX with a 1gb SD card. Fits in my pocket perfectly and I have to say its one of the best devices I've ever got. __________________ Any comments or opinions made by me are not the opinion of any of my employers unless specifically noted.

27th March 2006, 12:00 PM	#10
technophiliac Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 644	microdrives are noted for using a lot more battery power than cf and sd storage cards. If you were to buy a microdrive or storage card equivalent id recommend the storage card. if you want a phone and money is no object get a HTC universal (high tech computer corporation) or what is known as a many a different thing in different countries... to australians they know it as the imate JASJAR. HTC produce the best series of mobile phone units you can buy IMO features the 520mhz pxa272 processor , a VGA screen although it only has one expansion slot. It has a clamshell design with the base being an extendable keyboard. here ismore information about HTC and HTC phones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Te...er_Corporation if you dont want a phone and want compactedness the next best thing is X51V from DELL Last edited by technophiliac; 27th March 2006 at 12:09 PM.

25th March 2006, 1:17 AM	#2
strongbad Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Toowoomba Posts: 371	Or perhaps an SD slot - which would be cheaper, a 4gb microdrive or a 2gb/4gb sd card? Would they behave in the same way? I've heard that sometimes the memory contents get erased when the battery runs out, does this apply to the sd card (flash memory)?

25th March 2006, 9:09 AM	#4
kimnkk Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 2,075	The HP HX4700 for sure. The screen is the biggest you can get for a PDA and by far the best you can get for a PDA. Its got Intel's fastest, 624MHz, XScale processor, a 3.5mm jack (that is the only one to accept MIC input as well), 802.11b, bluetooth, both CF type II and SD card slots, and if you want, HP just released the Windows Mobile 5 upgrade for it.

26th March 2006, 8:23 PM	#7
pyriX Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brisbane Posts: 97	My Sony Clie Th55 and 2gb Memory Stick duo works nicely... Though they dont sell them any more - stupid fuking sony, made best Palm PDA's for years, then decided there wasnt enough profit in it, so they ditched palm. Sighs /rant Anyways, if u r buying new today, a lifedrive would probably suite your purposes well, as would the Hx4700 and X51v mentioned earlier. Dont settle for 240x320 res, get at least 320x480, at that res, which I have on my TH55, the screen looks suberb, videos look awesome, and think the pixel density (pixels per square centimetre), is greater than my LG L1717S LCD. Have seen the Toshiba e800 with VGA screen, and they look nice too. SD cards would be fast enough for what you want, however your main cause of bad movie quality is going to be response time in the LCD. IF you do chose to go the Compact Flash route, same guy that owned the e800 brought an iPod Mini, grabbed the MicroDrive from that, and stuck it, ended up being cheaper than buying a standalone microdrive. Not sure how he did it, but have seen it in action, methinks google it, as mini's can be found secondhand these days cheap, as the nano's came out, and everyone wanted one they could snap between their fingers.

27th March 2006, 12:48 AM	#8
strongbad Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Toowoomba Posts: 371	I saw the hx4700 in a store, the thing is way too big to fit in the pocket. It absolutely needs to fit in a pocket, otherwise there would be no point. I carry no man-bag. :P The large screen would be nice but if it compromises the pda's size, then it would have to be reprioritised. Size is a very important factor to me, its gotta fit in the pocket / be compact. the dells size is a bit more appropriate id like to have the phone feature, but i realise that there probably wont be a pda out there that will suit ALL my needs any suggestions for pdas with built in phones?

27th March 2006, 8:02 PM	#14
strongbad Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Toowoomba Posts: 371	the dell is probably what i'd be leaning towards is there anything similiar to the dell with a phone in it? a phone and a pda seperate would be a bit of a bitch.

27th March 2006, 10:25 PM	#15
technophiliac Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 644	you can interface the pda with a bluetooth phone... link u can control it and receive calls n stuff via bluetooth thats what i'd do if i had a bluetooth phone... personally i wouldnt buy a pda/phone id just do this. sorry i dont know much about it but i know you can do like this with software n stuff... but yeh u cant buy a pda/phone thats as good as the x50v like one that has the graphics accelerator. the closest you're gonna get to the x50v is one of the best ones from HTC thats all i can say really...