Rainy surfing shots: Burleigh (Qld) and Duranbah (Qld/NSW border)

disci · 17th April 2006, 11:16 AM

Hi all

Here are some rainy surfing shots from Sunday afternoon. All the Burleigh shots were taken with a polarising filter.

I know this sounds stupid, but I feel like a 'moth to a flame' with the polarising filter: whenever around water I feel somehow obliged to use it, even though I'm not a fan of how it darkens the darker parts of a shot.

Some are taken on ISO800, and no noise reduction has been used.

C & C welcome.

Burleigh:

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Duranbah:

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Regards

Disci

bubbablair · 17th April 2006, 11:56 AM

Some great shots there mate, i particularly like the 2nd one (spray shot, i love seeing water being thrown around) and the 3rd last one with the dude in the barrel.

Im not sure i would use a polariser if i had to up ISO to 800, especially in overcast coniditons. I think i would rather have the extra light and stay at ISO400. Can you notice the noise in full res versions?
Then again i suppose it depends on how glary the conditions are and what the refelctions are like.

Do you shoot RAW and convert or go for JPG's? I think i get more noise in the dark/shadow areas from RAW when im shooting in overcast conditions. Im still tryin to figure out what settings work best.

Thanks for sharing, good to see the 400 getting a workout

Bubba

disci · 17th April 2006, 2:29 PM

Thanks Bubba.

Yes, I'm trying to wean myself off the polariser for whenever the ISO gets too high and/or shutter speeds get too low, or when I suspect the faces etc will be too dark.

You definitely do see the noise in the original versions. I stopped briefly at Kirra/Rainbow bay and it was so dark I went to ISO1600. Some other shots at Duranbah were at 1600 as well. Naturally, none were worth sharing (combo of noise and distance).

I was only taking jpg's until it got darker. I then tried RAW because it's meant to allow more latitude with brightening, at times when you deliberately underexpose to keep a better ISO or shutter speed. The irony is that, in my limited experience, when you increase the brightness, you make the noise more noticeable at the same time. To me, the shots look a bit more washed out when you brighten deliberately underexposed raw images too.

Looking forward to your next shots Bubba.

Regards

Disci
PS: 'Heard of timeshare accommodation? Looks like you, Redav, me and some others need (!) a 'timeshare' 2.8!!

bubbablair · 17th April 2006, 2:38 PM

Yeah i had the same thing with those shark island pics a while back. Bad light so i shot RAW and underexposed intentionally to keep up shutter speeds, but the noise levels were pretty bad.
I've since bought noise ninja and it helps a fair bit, but to remove noise you do lose some detail as well. Its a tradeoff. But still its better to get a slightly noisy shot then a blurry unuseable one.

Bubba

Trevi · 17th April 2006, 2:56 PM

Hey they look alright considering the weather...I didn't bother goin down to have a look.

Give us a heads up if your down the coast and we can fire off a few shots from the big bugga (400 2.8) and see if ya REALLLY like it!!!1

I went to Burleigh this morning and had to fight the usual backlighting prob but at least the sun was out

disci · 17th April 2006, 3:32 PM

Thanks Trev.

D

disci · 18th April 2006, 7:46 PM

Bubba, since you liked that barrel shot, I thought I may as well throw in this other one I just found. Nothing much to see, and it's a boogie board, but anyway....

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Disci

scarper · 18th April 2006, 10:58 PM

Nice shots disci

well done.

scarper

disci · 19th April 2006, 9:30 AM

Thanks Scarper.

Disci
PS: When I got prints this morning at Harvey Norman, the guy said: "Are these for a magazine?"

17th April 2006, 11:16 AM	#1
disci Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brisbane, Aust Posts: 1,370	Rainy surfing shots: Burleigh (Qld) and Duranbah (Qld/NSW border) Hi all Here are some rainy surfing shots from Sunday afternoon. All the Burleigh shots were taken with a polarising filter. I know this sounds stupid, but I feel like a 'moth to a flame' with the polarising filter: whenever around water I feel somehow obliged to use it, even though I'm not a fan of how it darkens the darker parts of a shot. Some are taken on ISO800, and no noise reduction has been used. C & C welcome. Burleigh: Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Duranbah: Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Regards Disci

17th April 2006, 11:56 AM	#2
bubbablair Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Shire, Sydney Posts: 1,227	Some great shots there mate, i particularly like the 2nd one (spray shot, i love seeing water being thrown around) and the 3rd last one with the dude in the barrel. Im not sure i would use a polariser if i had to up ISO to 800, especially in overcast coniditons. I think i would rather have the extra light and stay at ISO400. Can you notice the noise in full res versions? Then again i suppose it depends on how glary the conditions are and what the refelctions are like. Do you shoot RAW and convert or go for JPG's? I think i get more noise in the dark/shadow areas from RAW when im shooting in overcast conditions. Im still tryin to figure out what settings work best. Thanks for sharing, good to see the 400 getting a workout Bubba __________________ My Photo Gallery

17th April 2006, 2:29 PM	#3
disci Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brisbane, Aust Posts: 1,370	Thanks Bubba. Yes, I'm trying to wean myself off the polariser for whenever the ISO gets too high and/or shutter speeds get too low, or when I suspect the faces etc will be too dark. You definitely do see the noise in the original versions. I stopped briefly at Kirra/Rainbow bay and it was so dark I went to ISO1600. Some other shots at Duranbah were at 1600 as well. Naturally, none were worth sharing (combo of noise and distance). I was only taking jpg's until it got darker. I then tried RAW because it's meant to allow more latitude with brightening, at times when you deliberately underexpose to keep a better ISO or shutter speed. The irony is that, in my limited experience, when you increase the brightness, you make the noise more noticeable at the same time. To me, the shots look a bit more washed out when you brighten deliberately underexposed raw images too. Looking forward to your next shots Bubba. Regards Disci PS: 'Heard of timeshare accommodation? Looks like you, Redav, me and some others need (!) a 'timeshare' 2.8!! Last edited by disci; 17th April 2006 at 2:31 PM.

17th April 2006, 2:38 PM	#4
bubbablair Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Shire, Sydney Posts: 1,227	Yeah i had the same thing with those shark island pics a while back. Bad light so i shot RAW and underexposed intentionally to keep up shutter speeds, but the noise levels were pretty bad. I've since bought noise ninja and it helps a fair bit, but to remove noise you do lose some detail as well. Its a tradeoff. But still its better to get a slightly noisy shot then a blurry unuseable one. Bubba __________________ My Photo Gallery

17th April 2006, 2:56 PM	#5
Trevi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 350	Hey they look alright considering the weather...I didn't bother goin down to have a look. Give us a heads up if your down the coast and we can fire off a few shots from the big bugga (400 2.8) and see if ya REALLLY like it!!!1 I went to Burleigh this morning and had to fight the usual backlighting prob but at least the sun was out __________________ Trevi "Owner of much great photography equipment. Master of none of it."

17th April 2006, 3:32 PM	#6
disci Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brisbane, Aust Posts: 1,370	Thanks Trev. D

18th April 2006, 7:46 PM	#7
disci Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brisbane, Aust Posts: 1,370	Bubba, since you liked that barrel shot, I thought I may as well throw in this other one I just found. Nothing much to see, and it's a boogie board, but anyway.... Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Disci

18th April 2006, 10:58 PM	#8
scarper Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Wait Awhile ... Perth Posts: 461	Nice shots disci well done. scarper __________________ OCAU Camera Club Member #216 http://mdhphotography.biz

19th April 2006, 9:30 AM	#9
disci Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brisbane, Aust Posts: 1,370	Thanks Scarper. Disci PS: When I got prints this morning at Harvey Norman, the guy said: "Are these for a magazine?" Last edited by disci; 15th May 2006 at 8:51 PM.