What does the latest xbox360 firmware do?

jOel05 · 8th July 2006, 11:55 AM

So i'm looking at buying an xbox360 in the coming weeks and came across one yesterday which seemed like a pretty good deal with 7 games, 2 controllers etc. The only thing i am concerned about is that he told me that the console does not come with a warranty as it had been opened up and upgraded to the latest version of firmware. Xtreme Firmware and 7 or something he said. I'm just wondering what the new version of firmware does over the older versions? Should i be worried about this at all?

Thanks,
Joel

caudex · 8th July 2006, 1:20 PM

i think it allowes for copied games to be played(eg. backup games). as for playing on Live, afaik, the firmware hack is still undetectable by MS, so it should be safe, but just be conscious of upcoming updates that may detect the modified firmware.

fox1 · 9th July 2006, 12:19 AM

um yeah, hes flashed the firmware in the dvd drive with a cracked one so it can play burnt games. So I'm guessing the 7 games aren't legit.

Worried? Depends, its illegal, so yeah, up to you.

anyway, offer him no more than $450.

hobo-jo · 9th July 2006, 6:07 AM

If MS does end up being able to detect it, is it currently possible to flash it back to the original firmware?

jOel05 · 9th July 2006, 11:41 AM

So will that mean that the 7 games he gives me the choice of getting are all copied and i can't use them on xbox live?

Joel

caudex · 9th July 2006, 11:58 AM

yes, at the moment you can play those games on Live because MS can't detect the modified firmware.

And yes, if you have a backup of the original firmware (you'll have to ask the seller), then you can reflash it.

jOel05 · 9th July 2006, 12:03 PM

Hmm, so its pretty much only a matter of time until microsoft can find a way to detect it? If they do that means the games will be useless or they will cancel my live account or something?

caudex · 9th July 2006, 12:15 PM

well you can always reflash to the original firmware... or you can just not play on Live when they do figure a way to detect it. The most MS can do will ban you from Live. For those on dialup or don't play on Live much at all, this won't effect you much anyway.

2nd option would be to flash it back to original firmware and wait for a better solution to come out.

jOel05 · 9th July 2006, 12:33 PM

Thanks caudex. The guy just emailed me back and admitted they were all backup games and that i can purchase extra games for $15 each. I'm still not convinced about the price though..

IF microsoft do find out about the firmware do they ban your account so you can sign up for another account or do they IP ban you?

-console
-1 wireless controller
-20gb HD
-HD cables
-Headset
-Wireless adapter
-7 copied games

All for $840

Reasonable price or not?

Joel

annandin · 9th July 2006, 12:37 PM

I wouldn't pay that much for copied games, a warranty-less Xbox and a dodgy firmware.

buddhamus · 9th July 2006, 12:46 PM

$840?

Rip Off!....Look elsewhere dude!

da_neural · 9th July 2006, 1:06 PM

yeh ur gettin ripped u can buy it brand new and if u really want to do the firmware upgrade urself

not that hard

but will void ur warranty and is illegal as mentioned above

DaLeroy · 9th July 2006, 1:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jOel05

-console
-1 wireless controller
-20gb HD
-HD cables
-Headset
-Wireless adapter
-7 copied games

All for $840

Reasonable price or not?

Joel

Premium console new is around $620.
Headset comes with Live subscription normally, so if you're gonna get Live, it's pretty much free.
Not sure what the Wireless adapter is worth, but the games are basically not worth anything (cost of a blank DVD DL)

I wouldn't buy it for that price

Plus the risk of getting banned from Live later on.

fox1 · 9th July 2006, 1:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jOel05

IF microsoft do find out about the firmware do they ban your account so you can sign up for another account or do they IP ban you?

They'll probably ban the serial number of the console, so no matter how many accounts you create, = no good.

oh yeah, as everyone else said, for that price, your getting ripped.

Tell him to shove it.

MotoMan · 9th July 2006, 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jOel05

-console
-1 wireless controller
-20gb HD
-HD cables
-Headset
-Wireless adapter
-7 copied games

All for $840

Reasonable price or not?

Joel

Premium Pack $600 at Toys r us
comes with 20gb HD and HD cables and wireless controller...
Wireless adaptor $135
Headset with 12 months Gold Live $89.95
Total $815..
For a new xbox360 with warranty and able to play on live

copied games are useless.. once they figure a way to detect the mod they will ban the console.. NO WAY AROUND IT!

I wouldnt pay more than $500 for the package he is offering..

8th July 2006, 11:55 AM	#1
jOel05 (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 445	What does the latest xbox360 firmware do? So i'm looking at buying an xbox360 in the coming weeks and came across one yesterday which seemed like a pretty good deal with 7 games, 2 controllers etc. The only thing i am concerned about is that he told me that the console does not come with a warranty as it had been opened up and upgraded to the latest version of firmware. Xtreme Firmware and 7 or something he said. I'm just wondering what the new version of firmware does over the older versions? Should i be worried about this at all? Thanks, Joel Last edited by jOel05; 8th July 2006 at 12:08 PM.

8th July 2006, 1:20 PM	#2
caudex Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,545	i think it allowes for copied games to be played(eg. backup games). as for playing on Live, afaik, the firmware hack is still undetectable by MS, so it should be safe, but just be conscious of upcoming updates that may detect the modified firmware. __________________ Sucessful sales with ArTy, Amfibius, Lolami, CaeSiuM-X, jaster1mereel and SaTaN.

9th July 2006, 12:19 AM	#3
fox1 Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,065	um yeah, hes flashed the firmware in the dvd drive with a cracked one so it can play burnt games. So I'm guessing the 7 games aren't legit. Worried? Depends, its illegal, so yeah, up to you. anyway, offer him no more than $450. __________________ Spreading hate since Jun 2001. Roses are red, Violets are blue, I'm going to kill you with a rake. Last edited by fox1; 9th July 2006 at 2:04 AM.

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9th July 2006, 11:58 AM	#6
caudex Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,545	yes, at the moment you can play those games on Live because MS can't detect the modified firmware. And yes, if you have a backup of the original firmware (you'll have to ask the seller), then you can reflash it. __________________ Sucessful sales with ArTy, Amfibius, Lolami, CaeSiuM-X, jaster1mereel and SaTaN.

9th July 2006, 11:41 AM	#5
jOel05 (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 445	So will that mean that the 7 games he gives me the choice of getting are all copied and i can't use them on xbox live? Joel

9th July 2006, 12:03 PM	#7
jOel05 (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 445	Hmm, so its pretty much only a matter of time until microsoft can find a way to detect it? If they do that means the games will be useless or they will cancel my live account or something?

9th July 2006, 12:15 PM	#8
caudex Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,545	well you can always reflash to the original firmware... or you can just not play on Live when they do figure a way to detect it. The most MS can do will ban you from Live. For those on dialup or don't play on Live much at all, this won't effect you much anyway. 2nd option would be to flash it back to original firmware and wait for a better solution to come out. __________________ Sucessful sales with ArTy, Amfibius, Lolami, CaeSiuM-X, jaster1mereel and SaTaN.

9th July 2006, 12:33 PM	#9
jOel05 (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 445	Thanks caudex. The guy just emailed me back and admitted they were all backup games and that i can purchase extra games for $15 each. I'm still not convinced about the price though.. IF microsoft do find out about the firmware do they ban your account so you can sign up for another account or do they IP ban you? -console -1 wireless controller -20gb HD -HD cables -Headset -Wireless adapter -7 copied games All for $840 Reasonable price or not? Joel

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