G.Skill 2GBZX (F2. DDRII PC-6400)

bayan · 1st August 2006, 12:55 AM

Hi.

Just wondering if anyone has any of these and have done any OC with them.

Are they as good as their F1 version? F1 was able to hit 270MHz (from a default of 200Mhz).

cheers

AzonIc · 3rd August 2006, 4:09 PM

actually I'd like to know this as well. Theres a $100 diff between this an HZ.

Mad 4 Air · 3rd August 2006, 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayan

Hi.

Just wondering if anyone has any of these and have done any OC with them.

Are they as good as their F1 version? F1 was able to hit 270MHz (from a default of 200Mhz).

cheers

I believe the new 2gbzx ddr2 stuff is moving over to micron ic too so that should be good. No idea about current. If the F1 stuff you mean was the ddr1, 270 was the high end. Average would have been about 255mhz.

bayan · 3rd August 2006, 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad 4 Air

I believe the new 2gbzx ddr2 stuff is moving over to micron ic too so that should be good. No idea about current. If the F1 stuff you mean was the ddr1, 270 was the high end. Average would have been about 255mhz.

Yeah.

I have ordered mine. Will give it a go when I get mine in and post the results back.

Jagdpanther · 4th August 2006, 6:10 PM

You guys must read this thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=109340

in short 2GBZX is not working with the DS3 which I notice Bayan has in his Sig.

If you have some crappy old DDR2 around you can still boot and change the settings before switching to the 2GBZX. Otherwise you are screwed. The ppl in the states are RMAing the RAM but not sure what will happen with us.

I have contacted the G.Skill rep on xtremesystems and he has given me a contact to email but I haven't got a reply yet.

bayan · 5th August 2006, 2:48 AM

just my luck

Meh. I will just put up with it untill there is a proper BIOS released...

Assasinator_2 · 7th August 2006, 4:23 AM

Unfortunately, I don't know how long your wait will be - these beta bios versions are not helping the issue.

edit: Ok, here's, as I understand it, the problem, which is a basic rundown of the thread linked earlier:

The DS3 defaults to a 1.9V VDIMM. The ZX requires 2.0 to boot, minimum. As such, the only way to get around it is to shove in a DIMM that can boot at 1.9V, manually up the voltage to 2.0V, save bios, then shove in the g.skill ZX RAM. Basically every other RAM boots at 1.9V, even if requiring laxer timings to do so, so almost any other RAM is able to work in this mobo.

You then encounter the problem that if you have a failed OC, the BIOS resets itself to defaults, which means back to 1.9V, so again the RAM swap is needed to boot. It's a pain in the arse, and requires you to have some spare RAM.

For some reason, however, this does not effect the HZ models (as well as a couple of others) as far as anyone has seen. Why this is the case, I dunno, as every place I've looked states they also are tested at 2.0V too. Perhaps it's that since they're a higher quality chip, they are able to POST at 1.9V? I've seen tentative reports that other brand RAM has been having the same issues, if it is only able to boot at 2.0V or more.

In short, these are the models that have issues:
ZX
NS

It's frustrating. The problem lies, it seems, with a combination of a) G.Skill RAM not throttling itself down to work at 1.9V, even at a reduced performance, just to boot, and b) Gigabyte DS3 not properly detecting that the G.Skill RAM requires 2.0V to boot, and thus setting the VDIMM to 2.0V.

Here's hoping it gets fixed soon.

Jagdpanther · 7th August 2006, 4:56 PM

Ok if you do happen to have a DS3 and ZX RAM email alice@gskill.com with the details and the place where you got it from.

Just got an email from PCManiacs (where I got mine from) saying that I can swap the ram to another type of G.Skill for just the price difference.

shonofear · 9th August 2006, 11:17 PM

yer,
will this possibly work in my conroe setup 965-S3

DDR2 1GB G.Skill 667MHz PC5400 RAM Kit LA
Description:
F2-5400PHU2-1GBLA, CL=4-4-4-12, DDRII 667, 2 x 512MB Sticks

i understand this is CL 4 .... is that wat it is ^^^?
I also understand that sum CL 4 have problems,
but these were tested as = Test Voltage 1.8 Volts.

any idea peoples
thanx

bayan · 9th August 2006, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shonofear

yer,
will this possibly work in my conroe setup 965-S3

DDR2 1GB G.Skill 667MHz PC5400 RAM Kit LA
Description:
F2-5400PHU2-1GBLA, CL=4-4-4-12, DDRII 667, 2 x 512MB Sticks

i understand this is CL 4 .... is that wat it is ^^^?
I also understand that sum CL 4 have problems,
but these were tested as = Test Voltage 1.8 Volts.

any idea peoples
thanx

Should be fine

matt89 · 10th August 2006, 7:02 AM

NO i emailed G skill about DDR2 2GB G.Skill 667MHz PC5400 RAM Kit LA and Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 combination and this was the reply i got

Quote:

G.Skill USA Rep
Hi
You might need to increase the voltage to about 2.0~2.1v to run at DS3 motherboard. In our lab we need to increase to 2.0v to able the run it.
Thank you
Yen
GSKILL USA REP

shonofear · 10th August 2006, 7:15 AM

ah damn it.
aw well, i mite just take my pc in to shop and try sum RAM so see which works,
They said that should be fine.

thanx

1st August 2006, 12:55 AM	#1
bayan Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Geelong, VIC Posts: 195	G.Skill 2GBZX (F2. DDRII PC-6400) Hi. Just wondering if anyone has any of these and have done any OC with them. Are they as good as their F1 version? F1 was able to hit 270MHz (from a default of 200Mhz). cheers

3rd August 2006, 4:09 PM	#2
AzonIc Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,169	actually I'd like to know this as well. Theres a $100 diff between this an HZ. __________________ OCAU Underwater Photography Appreciation thread

7th August 2006, 4:23 AM	#7
Assasinator_2 (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rockhampton Posts: 4,591	Unfortunately, I don't know how long your wait will be - these beta bios versions are not helping the issue. edit: Ok, here's, as I understand it, the problem, which is a basic rundown of the thread linked earlier: The DS3 defaults to a 1.9V VDIMM. The ZX requires 2.0 to boot, minimum. As such, the only way to get around it is to shove in a DIMM that can boot at 1.9V, manually up the voltage to 2.0V, save bios, then shove in the g.skill ZX RAM. Basically every other RAM boots at 1.9V, even if requiring laxer timings to do so, so almost any other RAM is able to work in this mobo. You then encounter the problem that if you have a failed OC, the BIOS resets itself to defaults, which means back to 1.9V, so again the RAM swap is needed to boot. It's a pain in the arse, and requires you to have some spare RAM. For some reason, however, this does not effect the HZ models (as well as a couple of others) as far as anyone has seen. Why this is the case, I dunno, as every place I've looked states they also are tested at 2.0V too. Perhaps it's that since they're a higher quality chip, they are able to POST at 1.9V? I've seen tentative reports that other brand RAM has been having the same issues, if it is only able to boot at 2.0V or more. In short, these are the models that have issues: ZX NS It's frustrating. The problem lies, it seems, with a combination of a) G.Skill RAM not throttling itself down to work at 1.9V, even at a reduced performance, just to boot, and b) Gigabyte DS3 not properly detecting that the G.Skill RAM requires 2.0V to boot, and thus setting the VDIMM to 2.0V. Here's hoping it gets fixed soon. Last edited by Assasinator_2; 7th August 2006 at 5:19 AM.

4th August 2006, 6:10 PM	#5
Jagdpanther Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 180	You guys must read this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=109340 in short 2GBZX is not working with the DS3 which I notice Bayan has in his Sig. If you have some crappy old DDR2 around you can still boot and change the settings before switching to the 2GBZX. Otherwise you are screwed. The ppl in the states are RMAing the RAM but not sure what will happen with us. I have contacted the G.Skill rep on xtremesystems and he has given me a contact to email but I haven't got a reply yet.

5th August 2006, 2:48 AM	#6
bayan Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Geelong, VIC Posts: 195	just my luck Meh. I will just put up with it untill there is a proper BIOS released...

7th August 2006, 4:56 PM	#8
Jagdpanther Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 180	Ok if you do happen to have a DS3 and ZX RAM email alice@gskill.com with the details and the place where you got it from. Just got an email from PCManiacs (where I got mine from) saying that I can swap the ram to another type of G.Skill for just the price difference.

9th August 2006, 11:17 PM	#9
shonofear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: QLD Goldy Posts: 134	yer, will this possibly work in my conroe setup 965-S3 DDR2 1GB G.Skill 667MHz PC5400 RAM Kit LA Description: F2-5400PHU2-1GBLA, CL=4-4-4-12, DDRII 667, 2 x 512MB Sticks i understand this is CL 4 .... is that wat it is ^^^? I also understand that sum CL 4 have problems, but these were tested as = Test Voltage 1.8 Volts. any idea peoples thanx

10th August 2006, 7:15 AM	#12
shonofear Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: QLD Goldy Posts: 134	ah damn it. aw well, i mite just take my pc in to shop and try sum RAM so see which works, They said that should be fine. thanx