Best cooler for duals and quads?

[scarecrow420]

Also spcr is very fond (or biased towards) quiet setups. Which you cant then turn around and expect them to have high cooling performance. Not saying that some people arent interested in quiet setups, but just that they make big commendations about how quiet the stock half height 120mm fan is that comes with the non-VX whereas most people like chainbolt etc who comment on this say that you should replace the fan witha proper full height 120mm for improvements in cooling.

And regarding the mounting mechanism i agree as well... a secure/solid mounting system which is a little bit fidly to install is not a problem at all. I cant think of a better way of doing it, and as proven by the VX model that came out with the pushpins, the original mounting was probably less troublesome and more reliable

[R3xx]

(a) he is testing a BT version that is for a [long] time not produced/sold in this form anymore. Not only the holding mechanism but also the fan have been changed.

http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/...-max=&links=20

Of course you can still get the BT version! MSY in Malvern have both the normal and VX version in stock. I went there last week.

[chainbolt]

Originally Posted by R3xx

http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/...-max=&links=20

Of course you can still get the BT version! MSY in Malvern have both the normal and VX version in stock. I went there last week.

Some of our remote dealers also have some modelyear 2005 "Boxster" still on stock It does not make sense in January 2007 to test a version that is since more than half a year not any longer produced. Why would you do that? Lazyness - that also shows up in their comparison with other "best of class coolers" which are in reality old timers.

[FFC]

Originally Posted by TMM

Btw if anyone is looking for a quiet HSF, there is no contest - Scythe Ninja all the way. The widely spaced fins means it can perform a lot better then other heatsinks (with close fins e.g. Infinity, Big Typhoon, Ultra-120 etc) with a low CFM fan. I run one with a 36cfm Nexus fan and it performs better then an XP-120 with a 68cfm Panaflo.

The original Ninja fan is 49cfm, how does your nexus perform vs the ninja in its original form?
Edit: Noise and temp wise

[salmon]

salman says zalman 9700 pwns

[R3xx]

Salmon obviously isn't serious about cooling or salmon would not say stupid shit like that.

[Ellroy80]

Originally Posted by chainbolt

I don't think it's thorough, it's grossly misleading.

(a) he is testing a BT version that is for a [long] time not produced/sold in this form anymore. Not only the holding mechanism but also the fan have been changed.

Agreed, but don't forget most people PREFER to use the older model, rather than the VX. I know I would!!!

Originally Posted by chainbolt

(b) he is not including the latest and best HSF in the comparison, but again using outdated sinks that have been replaced by their manufacturers with better performing ones. The TT XP-120 is at least 2 years old, and has been replaced many months ago already by the much larger SI-128. The Sythe Ninja is still a good sink, but again it's a first generation LGA 775 fan, 2 years old, and since quite a long time not any longer the Scythe top model anymore. That is more powerful Sythe Infinity. The author is comparing sinks from pre-dual core times with a latest generation sink.

Because the Ninja isn't the latest and greatest you can't say that it shouldn't be in the comparison - it's still one of the best LGA775 coolers around!!! They do have Thermalright Ultra-120 in there as a comparison, which is a new HS. As you can see it performs about the same as the Ninja, but the BT is nowhere near either of them. I can also tell you from first hand experience that the BT does not perform as well as the Noctua ?NH-U12 (I think that's the model number).

Originally Posted by chainbolt

(c) I agree that that the new mechanism is not better than the "old" one. But that is exactly the point. There are basically only 2 ways how you can mount such sink: Either with push down pins (as it is now becoming usual) or with screws through the PCB. He has very obviously never tried the "newer" way with pins, otherwise he would not call the original BT mounting system "poor". It's by the way not poor at all. The same system they use for their water cooling systems, it's very reliable, and ensures unlike the mounting with pins 100% firm mounting. It takes more time to mount the sink with scrwes though the PCB, that's all. But no pain - no gain. The real problem with the old style BT mounting system he does not even mention, and that is that the foam proetection is "baked" onto the PCB after an extented period of heavy duty/high temp usage. But that's just a detail, that can be avoided, and does not change the picture: The tested mounting system is not "poor" as he says, but very reliable and well performing, because it ensures maximum pressure.

Yep, I have to agree with you here. I would prefer to have the bolt-through design, though after installing mine on the w/e, I would've thought that they could've used some springs and wingnuts in there instead of those poxy standard nuts. It wasn't much fun to get them on and get the pressure equal across all 4 nuts!!!

Originally Posted by chainbolt

(d) I have tested the BT and the XP-120 far more thoroughly than the author, by months of running them 24/7 at various systems, with various fans, and various conditions. And I do believe that his results are totally wrong. A BT is by far better than a XP-120. These 2 fans are one generation apart. The cooling surface of the BT is far bigger than that of XP-120. And never, ever does a XP-120 using the same fan beat a BT. He should have have compared the BT with the successor of the XP-120, the SI-128. The later has a comparable surface size to the BT.

Fair enough. I can't say one way or the other. Obviously you've had the benefit of being able to test these for months, whereas the reviewer hasn't.

[DuuK]

Anyone have comments on the Noctua HSFs?

Looking at these specials at the moment from nintek:

http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/p...idproduct=8842
or
http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/p...idproduct=8783

Should I get the Extra S12-800 Fan Bundle or the Extra S12-1200 considering I want quietness...

The only problem I am worried about is the size... Will it fit into a Silverstone LC17 case?

M/B is an Asus P5LD2-SE Motherboard

[WASM]

Noctua are cool and quiet. Great performance and good for the wallet.

[DuuK]

Originally Posted by WASM

Noctua are cool and quiet. Great performance and good for the wallet.

What fan are you using though?

Thats the olderversion of the Noctua you are using though right?
the model without the 'F'?

[Ellroy80]

The Noctua's are great. I'm using mine with a Coolink fan (can't remember the model no sorry) but the whole setup is quiet and effective. Just to give you an example, I have one on a P4 2.8 which is running 2 instances of folding. All the fans in the case (1 intake, 1 exhaust and the one on the HSF) are running at 7V. CPU temp, according to Speedfan, is 40 degrees. Case is a Thermaltake Mambo.

If the S12-1200 comes with a fan controller I would get that.

[WASM]

i bought a 1600rpm coolink fan when they were on special with the heatsink.

If you want more performance get a higher cfm fan. In my opinion two fans don't make bugger all diff. I think the F version just includes the silent fan, otherwise there is no difference.

[TMM]

Originally Posted by FFC

The original Ninja fan is 49cfm, how does your nexus perform vs the ninja in its original form?
Edit: Noise and temp wise

Noise wise its effectively silent from ~1m away, where as the stock fan has both a quiet wooshing because of the higher cfm and an odd chuffing noise (like something is scraping inside). If you slowed down the stock fan so it produces the same cfm as the nexus i have no doubt it would read about the same with a db meter, but the noise character is rough. The Nexus is just a very quiet whoosh when you put it up to your ear - no scraping or ticking . Temps with the Nexus are 2-3C higher.

[FFC]

Originally Posted by TMM

Noise wise its effectively silent from ~1m away, where as the stock fan has both a quiet wooshing because of the higher cfm and an odd chuffing noise (like something is scraping inside). If you slowed down the stock fan so it produces the same cfm as the nexus i have no doubt it would read about the same with a db meter, but the noise character is rough. The Nexus is just a very quiet whoosh when you put it up to your ear - no scraping or ticking . Temps with the Nexus are 2-3C higher.

Mmmmm next step to order a Nexus, they are pricey @ $29 though..

[Whisper]

So how much better or worse temperature wise, is a Scythe Infinity over a Scythe Ninja?

So how much better or worse sound wise is, a Scythe Infinity over a Scythe Ninja?