The Recommended Musicians Thread

cacophony · 6th November 2006, 6:10 PM

I reckon, as a musician. checking out some amazing artists is the best way to improve, listening to jason becker and marty friedman etc have changed the way i look at guitar, so im gonna build a list of musicians i think you should check out!

feel free to to add and i'll be sure to put them on.

Guitar: (the bands they play in are in brackets)
Here is my list of guys and gals you should check out:

-Marty Friedman (Megadeth (rust in piece, Countdown to extinction, Cryptic -Writings, Risk, Youthanasia), Cacophony, And Solo work, all totally different)
-Jason Becker (Solo work, David Lee Roth (a lil aint enough), Cacophony)
-Paul Gilbert (Racer X, Mr.Big)
-Rusty Cooley (underworld)
-Shawn Lane
-Allan Holdsworth
-Reb Beach (Winger)
-Steve Vai (Whitesnake (slip of the tongue), Solo Albums, Frank Zappa, Alcatrazz)
-Joe Satriani (Solo albums)
-Stanley Jordan
-Jeff Beck
-Jennifer Batten
- Muhammed Suicmez (Necrophagist)
-Yngwie Malmsteen (Alcatrazz, Solo)
-Michael Angelo Batio (TNT, Solo work)
-Michael Romeo (Symphony X)
-John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
-Andy Laroche (King Diamond, Death)
-Chuck Schuldiner (Death)
-Dimebag Darrell (Pantera)
-Rhandy Rhodes (Ozzy)
-Zakk Wylde (ozzy)
-Jake.E.Lee (ozzy)
-Pat Metheny
-Alex Skolnick (alex skolnick trio (jazz), testament(thrash metal)
-Herman Li and Sam Totman (dragonforce)
-Jimmy Page (Led Zep)
-Jimi Hendrix (dont know why you wouldnt know him)
-Eddie Van Halen ("")
- Criss Oliva (Early Savatage)
- Al Pitrelli (Alice Cooper, Savatage)
-Ed Mundell (Atomic Bitchwax)
-Finn Ryan (Atomic Bitchwax)
-Lee Ritenour
-Issei Noro (Casiopea)
-BB king
-Charlie Christian
-Albert King
-Buddy Guy
-Stevie Ray Vaughn
-Junior Rimbrough
-Tommy Emmanuel

Im mainly a metal player so i tried to be varied, by adding some of my favourite fusion players in there, like i said, recommend some artists to add, i can add different instruments later

OverDriven · 6th November 2006, 6:17 PM

you forgot the david lee roth supergroup for steve vai!

one lesser known guitarist that people should listen to if they get the chance is criss oliva from savatage, he's dead now but the earlier savatage stuff is all him

songs like 'summers rain' and 'follow me' really show what this guy was all about

spootmonkey · 6th November 2006, 6:23 PM

Ed Mundell and Finn Ryan from the Atomic Bitchwax. Of the guitarists who I like to listen to for inspiration, they're the only ones who didn't start their careers 40 years ago.

cacophony · 6th November 2006, 6:34 PM

ah yes, my bad on that part of david lee roth.
And damn i forgot criss oliva! thanx for reminding me.

what style is ed mundell etc?

spootmonkey · 6th November 2006, 7:04 PM

Rock, I guess. Stoner-ey stuff. Mundell's earlier stuff in Monster Magnet is fairly psychadelic/space-rock stuff, Ryan's in Core is a sort of strange jazz/blues/stoner amalgam, and in Bitchwax it's straight up, riff-centric rock, with the occasional timing trick, a bit of shredding that doesn't completely overwhelm the band, and a killer rhythm section.

http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/At..._Destroyer.mp3
http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/Co...th_Problem.mp3
http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/Mo...Twin_Earth.mp3

Not the best examples, but that's what's free and legal.

lazerin · 6th November 2006, 7:45 PM

Acoustic fingerstyle players must check out Australia's own Tommy Emmanuel.

http://www.tommyemmanuel.com/home.asp
http://youtube.com/results?search_qu...&search=Search

syahrr01 · 6th November 2006, 8:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cacophony

-Pat Metheny

- Lee Ritenour
- Issei Noro (Casiopea)

marty_s13 · 6th November 2006, 9:50 PM

how about some non shredder guitarists?

Junior Kimbrough
Albert King
Stevie Ray Vaughan (if you haven't heard of him you are living under a rock)
Buddy Guy

so many other great blues guitarists I can't be bothered mentioning.

Not to get flamed and step on anyones toes but I find metal guitarist boring. Boring in terms of tone (what tone? its distortion+++, you can't actually hear the wood of the guitar as an intrument, sure a bit of crunch is nice, but that nice overdriven tube amp crunch not something that sounds like a tin can, the guitars might aswell be made out of metal), technique and style (it sounds all the same to me, no feeling).

Like I said i'm not trying to flame, just adding who I would rate as inspirational guitarists.

cacophony · 6th November 2006, 11:27 PM

Yeah, sorry those guys are on my list too, i had a bit of mental blank.

I find technicality as an inspiration.
I know how alot of people would say thats its all distortion, but some of the players like van halen, steve vai, all have amazing tone and along with marty friedman, if you listen to their solo works.

i wouldnt restrict myself to having an approach like "tone sucks, all repetitive" because i like the music too.

I can tell the difference between players, and you can tell when someones ripping stuff off. its like something im used too.

Alot the blues players are repetitive in my experience, and just by playing the blues scale, i can probably get the rest of the song into my head.

Yeah im not trying to flame to, but you can see alot motion in alot of players, that shred, look at alex skolnick, and marty friedman (lol soz hes my favourite player) and they were sick and tired of fitting that "no feeling" stereotype that metal players get.

Alex plays in a fusion band now, and marty plays oriental, and j-pop music.
and jason beckers perspective to call un-emotional would deserve a slap in the face.

Whereas i cant really tell the emotion out in alot of blues players like buddy guy, unless i look at there faces on stage.
But thats just me.

Another i forgot to put down is eric johnson.

ring wraith · 7th November 2006, 12:07 AM

alot of the emotional expression in blues guitar is in how the notes are played. with whisper quiet notes and tentative plucks moving into stinging full note bends etc...

heck, quality blues is pretty much all that. improvisational phrasing. its not what you say, its how you say it. that works for blues vocalists and guitarists alike.

Melzawelza · 7th November 2006, 12:27 AM

Ben Folds for sure. As a piano player and a vocalist, he is totally inspiring, got the sheet music for 2 albums, and as a bass player, the bassist from Ben Folds Five has inspired me to practice more!!

Brilliant!

EL KaBong · 7th November 2006, 8:29 AM

Johnny winter
John Williams
Tony Iommi
Leo Kottke

shredder · 7th November 2006, 9:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marty_s13

Not to get flamed and step on anyones toes but I find metal guitarist boring. Boring in terms of tone (what tone? its distortion+++, you can't actually hear the wood of the guitar as an intrument, sure a bit of crunch is nice, but that nice overdriven tube amp crunch not something that sounds like a tin can, the guitars might aswell be made out of metal), technique and style (it sounds all the same to me, no feeling).

Everyone feels more or less the same way about styles of music that they don't like or understand. The smart people realise this and come to terms with the fact that the music they personally like isn't really "better" in any absolute terms. The rest blindly ignore the fact that every comment (good or bad) could be so easily applied to their own music too, if you just looked at it a different way.

When I'm looking at a person's musical tastes I don't so much look at the music they listen to as they way they judge it (and others), to me that speaks volumes.

marty_s13 · 7th November 2006, 11:08 AM

I didn't necessarily say blues is "better" just it had more feeling and emotion. I understand the argument that all comments can be applied to all music but look at these clips and judge for yourself...

Shredding...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jK978921Yw

Blues...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCzhyEFkrw

Tell me which one has more feeling?

MeowMix · 7th November 2006, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marty_s13

I didn't necessarily say blues is "better" just it had more feeling and emotion. I understand the argument that all comments can be applied to all music but look at these clips and judge for yourself...

Shredding...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jK978921Yw

Blues...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCzhyEFkrw

Tell me which one has more feeling?

Yeah, compare those two completely uncomperable things and tell me what each guitar player is experiencing while they're playing.

Way to go.

6th November 2006, 6:10 PM	#1
cacophony Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Adelaide (5000) Posts: 523	The Recommended Musicians Thread I reckon, as a musician. checking out some amazing artists is the best way to improve, listening to jason becker and marty friedman etc have changed the way i look at guitar, so im gonna build a list of musicians i think you should check out! feel free to to add and i'll be sure to put them on. Guitar: (the bands they play in are in brackets) Here is my list of guys and gals you should check out: -Marty Friedman (Megadeth (rust in piece, Countdown to extinction, Cryptic -Writings, Risk, Youthanasia), Cacophony, And Solo work, all totally different) -Jason Becker (Solo work, David Lee Roth (a lil aint enough), Cacophony) -Paul Gilbert (Racer X, Mr.Big) -Rusty Cooley (underworld) -Shawn Lane -Allan Holdsworth -Reb Beach (Winger) -Steve Vai (Whitesnake (slip of the tongue), Solo Albums, Frank Zappa, Alcatrazz) -Joe Satriani (Solo albums) -Stanley Jordan -Jeff Beck -Jennifer Batten - Muhammed Suicmez (Necrophagist) -Yngwie Malmsteen (Alcatrazz, Solo) -Michael Angelo Batio (TNT, Solo work) -Michael Romeo (Symphony X) -John Petrucci (Dream Theater) -Andy Laroche (King Diamond, Death) -Chuck Schuldiner (Death) -Dimebag Darrell (Pantera) -Rhandy Rhodes (Ozzy) -Zakk Wylde (ozzy) -Jake.E.Lee (ozzy) -Pat Metheny -Alex Skolnick (alex skolnick trio (jazz), testament(thrash metal) -Herman Li and Sam Totman (dragonforce) -Jimmy Page (Led Zep) -Jimi Hendrix (dont know why you wouldnt know him) -Eddie Van Halen ("") - Criss Oliva (Early Savatage) - Al Pitrelli (Alice Cooper, Savatage) -Ed Mundell (Atomic Bitchwax) -Finn Ryan (Atomic Bitchwax) -Lee Ritenour -Issei Noro (Casiopea) -BB king -Charlie Christian -Albert King -Buddy Guy -Stevie Ray Vaughn -Junior Rimbrough -Tommy Emmanuel Im mainly a metal player so i tried to be varied, by adding some of my favourite fusion players in there, like i said, recommend some artists to add, i can add different instruments later __________________ <_< Last edited by cacophony; 6th November 2006 at 11:31 PM.

6th November 2006, 6:23 PM	#3
spootmonkey Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: DPR Brunswick Posts: 7,791	Ed Mundell and Finn Ryan from the Atomic Bitchwax. Of the guitarists who I like to listen to for inspiration, they're the only ones who didn't start their careers 40 years ago. __________________ "A bet is a tax on bullshit; and it is a just tax, tribute paid by the bullshitters to those with genuine knowledge."

6th November 2006, 6:34 PM	#4
cacophony Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Adelaide (5000) Posts: 523	ah yes, my bad on that part of david lee roth. And damn i forgot criss oliva! thanx for reminding me. what style is ed mundell etc? __________________ <_<

6th November 2006, 7:04 PM	#5
spootmonkey Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: DPR Brunswick Posts: 7,791	Rock, I guess. Stoner-ey stuff. Mundell's earlier stuff in Monster Magnet is fairly psychadelic/space-rock stuff, Ryan's in Core is a sort of strange jazz/blues/stoner amalgam, and in Bitchwax it's straight up, riff-centric rock, with the occasional timing trick, a bit of shredding that doesn't completely overwhelm the band, and a killer rhythm section. http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/At..._Destroyer.mp3 http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/Co...th_Problem.mp3 http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/Mo...Twin_Earth.mp3 Not the best examples, but that's what's free and legal. __________________ "A bet is a tax on bullshit; and it is a just tax, tribute paid by the bullshitters to those with genuine knowledge."

6th November 2006, 9:50 PM	#8
marty_s13 Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Adelaide Posts: 2,833	how about some non shredder guitarists? Junior Kimbrough Albert King Stevie Ray Vaughan (if you haven't heard of him you are living under a rock) Buddy Guy so many other great blues guitarists I can't be bothered mentioning. Not to get flamed and step on anyones toes but I find metal guitarist boring. Boring in terms of tone (what tone? its distortion+++, you can't actually hear the wood of the guitar as an intrument, sure a bit of crunch is nice, but that nice overdriven tube amp crunch not something that sounds like a tin can, the guitars might aswell be made out of metal), technique and style (it sounds all the same to me, no feeling). Like I said i'm not trying to flame, just adding who I would rate as inspirational guitarists. Last edited by marty_s13; 7th November 2006 at 10:48 AM.

6th November 2006, 6:17 PM	#2
OverDriven Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,076	you forgot the david lee roth supergroup for steve vai! one lesser known guitarist that people should listen to if they get the chance is criss oliva from savatage, he's dead now but the earlier savatage stuff is all him songs like 'summers rain' and 'follow me' really show what this guy was all about

6th November 2006, 7:45 PM	#6
lazerin Iron Photographer 2007 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 917	Acoustic fingerstyle players must check out Australia's own Tommy Emmanuel. http://www.tommyemmanuel.com/home.asp http://youtube.com/results?search_qu...&search=Search

6th November 2006, 11:27 PM	#9
cacophony Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Adelaide (5000) Posts: 523	Yeah, sorry those guys are on my list too, i had a bit of mental blank. I find technicality as an inspiration. I know how alot of people would say thats its all distortion, but some of the players like van halen, steve vai, all have amazing tone and along with marty friedman, if you listen to their solo works. i wouldnt restrict myself to having an approach like "tone sucks, all repetitive" because i like the music too. I can tell the difference between players, and you can tell when someones ripping stuff off. its like something im used too. Alot the blues players are repetitive in my experience, and just by playing the blues scale, i can probably get the rest of the song into my head. Yeah im not trying to flame to, but you can see alot motion in alot of players, that shred, look at alex skolnick, and marty friedman (lol soz hes my favourite player) and they were sick and tired of fitting that "no feeling" stereotype that metal players get. Alex plays in a fusion band now, and marty plays oriental, and j-pop music. and jason beckers perspective to call un-emotional would deserve a slap in the face. Whereas i cant really tell the emotion out in alot of blues players like buddy guy, unless i look at there faces on stage. But thats just me. Another i forgot to put down is eric johnson. __________________ <_< Last edited by cacophony; 6th November 2006 at 11:33 PM.

7th November 2006, 12:07 AM	#10
ring wraith Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A.K.A Frank Posts: 2,125	alot of the emotional expression in blues guitar is in how the notes are played. with whisper quiet notes and tentative plucks moving into stinging full note bends etc... heck, quality blues is pretty much all that. improvisational phrasing. its not what you say, its how you say it. that works for blues vocalists and guitarists alike. __________________ "when you're the opening act for large groups, sometimes you feel like a rectal thermometer: you're taking the temperature of the audience... You get use to being in that position" - Tom Waits Last edited by ring wraith; 7th November 2006 at 12:10 AM.

7th November 2006, 12:27 AM	#11
Melzawelza Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 820	Ben Folds for sure. As a piano player and a vocalist, he is totally inspiring, got the sheet music for 2 albums, and as a bass player, the bassist from Ben Folds Five has inspired me to practice more!! Brilliant!

7th November 2006, 8:29 AM	#12
EL KaBong Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canberra Posts: 132	Johnny winter John Williams Tony Iommi Leo Kottke

7th November 2006, 11:08 AM	#14
marty_s13 Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Adelaide Posts: 2,833	I didn't necessarily say blues is "better" just it had more feeling and emotion. I understand the argument that all comments can be applied to all music but look at these clips and judge for yourself... Shredding... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jK978921Yw Blues... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KCzhyEFkrw Tell me which one has more feeling?