Pioneer Light 822 x1600 14.1"

[crabbytech]

Anyway had a go with one?

I would imagine they would kick but in core duo and the price is amazing, but pioneer quality? Anyone with first hand experience may know.

[max223]

Originally Posted by crabbytech

pioneer quality

Just to confirm but you may know this already: this has nothing to do with Pioneer Electronics, which is famous in making visual/audio products.

Plus, it's called Dreambook Light 822, not lightbook.

[josh81]

I was pretty keen on buying a Pioneer Dreambook light 822 myself. But i was told to steer clear of Pioneer Computers. I bought a Dell XPS M1210 instead.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...m?t=474931&p=1

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...hlight=pioneer

[crabbytech]

how bad could it be for $1500 which includes a core duo and x1600 and 1GB ram?

i havnt seen a lot of people who own them complain, 1 or 2, but boy i have seen a lot of people complain about other brands which ppl still recommend. so im a little unsure whether is chinese whispers.

if they any better than my 9400 (which i would see hard not to be) i owned i would be stoked.

[max223]

Originally Posted by crabbytech

i havnt seen a lot of people who own them complain, 1 or 2, but boy i have seen a lot of people complain about other brands which ppl still recommend. so im a little unsure whether is chinese whispers.

It probably has something to do with the quantities of the products been sold?

E.g. Product A (well known brand) is sold by thousands, 10% customers complainted, that's hundreds you would hear.

Product B is sold by hundreds, 10% customers complainted, a lot less complaints than A in numbers.

Does this makes B better than A?

[crabbytech]

too much math for me max hahaha

[SLATYE]

Originally Posted by crabbytech

how bad could it be for $1500 which includes a core duo and x1600 and 1GB ram?

Pretty bad? It's the bottom-end Core Duo, a 4200RPM HDD (quite a lot slower than the slowest options that Dell offer), no OS, and a short battery life (when APC reviewed it they commented on the fact that the battery life is pretty poor in the X1600 version). Extra batteries will be $199 each. It's also got no wireless capabilities and no DVDRW - 802.11g is $49 extra, bluetooth is $39, and a DVDRW is $89 extra.

It might be faster than your Inspiron 9400, depending on just what specs the 9400 has. If the 9400 has a 7900GS for video, the Dreambook won't stand a chance.

To simplify what max223 was saying: if Dell sell 1,000,000 laptops there might be a thousand complaints made. If Pioneer sell 100 laptops, there might be fifty complaints. What's better? Obviously Dell has more complaints, but in Dell's case only 0.1% of laptops caused problems; in Pioneer's case it was 50%. Clearly Dell has better quality. That's purely hypothetical, but it illustrates the point nicely - Dell sell far more laptops than Pioneer, so obviously there will be more complaints about Dell ones.

[josh81]

Originally Posted by crabbytech

how bad could it be for $1500 which includes a core duo and x1600 and 1GB ram?

Actually it's $1544 for a core duo, X1600 & 1GB RAM.

But that's with only a 1.66GHz T2050 Processor.
- 2 x 512mb 533mhz RAM (average speed, & 2 pieces = more expensive upgrade)
- 40GB 4,200rpm hard drive (slow and small)
- 24x CD-ROM drive (doesn't burn CD's, doesn't play DVD's)
- no bluetooth, no wifi,
- no operating system (pricey)
- 6-cell battery (basic)
- no card reader

Did you read any of the disucussions i linked to crabbytech?