Canon S100

Modafroman · 15th September 2011, 11:55 PM

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1109/11...0announced.asp

and http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canons100/

I know the S95 is a hugely popular camera (I've got one and I love it) so I thought you guys might be interested if you haven't seen it.

Changes include: 12.1mpx custom Canon made CMOS sensor, 24-120mm equiv (S95 was 28-105mm), 1080P video, GPS unit, improved IS system, etc etc. All in all not enough for me to want to get one over my S95, tho the vastly improved ISO performance due to the new CMOS sensor would be interesting (they quote 1/4th the noise @ ISO1600 JPG compared to the S95).

Canon PowerShot S100 – key features:

High-sensitivity 12.1 Megapixel Canon CMOS (1/1.7 type)
HS System with powerful DIGIC 5
Ultra-wide 24mm, f/2.0, 5x zoom lens. Intelligent IS (24-120mm equiv.)
Lens Control Ring, NR Control & RAW
GPS
Full HD, HDMI
Large 7.5 cm (3.0″) LCD
High-speed Burst HQ

Also, the silver/gold colour looks horrible in my opinion. Black all the way. And the new front grip makes it look a bit funny imo, the S95 looks better.

theartfuldodger · 16th September 2011, 12:00 AM

Specs look good. I'm a fan of the slow mo video, fairly awful quality but is a cool feature for a point and shoot.

I don't really see the point of having 6400 ISO on such a small sensor though, the noise must be insane!

What do you guys think it'll be priced at? $600?

RichoB · 16th September 2011, 12:08 AM

I've been quietly waiting for this. My s95 got pinched and I haven't replaced it yet in anticipation for the 100. I expect I'll have it first day.

I don't like the relocation of the ring function button, but it looks a couple of mm slimmer which is a good thing.

Modafroman · 16th September 2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by theartfuldodger

Specs look good. I'm a fan of the slow mo video, fairly awful quality but is a cool feature for a point and shoot.

I don't really see the point of having 6400 ISO on such a small sensor though, the noise must be insane!

What do you guys think it'll be priced at? $600?

From memory the S95 retail was $599 (or $589, I can't remember, I only paid $435 this time last year anyways), so yea, retail for the S100 will probably be the same)

theSeekerr · 16th September 2011, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modafroman

Also, the silver/gold colour looks horrible in my opinion. Black all the way. And the new front grip makes it look a bit funny imo, the S95 looks better.

Yeah, that new colour is a peculiar choice - it's similar to the colour they used to make Ixus'.

Upgrades seem logical....

It's lost the dedicated shortcut button, but moving the stupid Ring Func button makes up for that, and apparently you can make it work like the Shortcut button instead. Good.

New lens is 1/3 stop slower than the S95's at comparable focal lengths....not sure the extra range makes up for it, but if the noise improvement is as good as they claim it won't matter much.

No rated improvement in battery life. Bit of a shame.

Front grip looks silly, but if it works I wouldn't knock it.

Waiting to see samples, but so far it looks like it's a worthy successor.

SyN · 16th September 2011, 12:39 AM

ah! a lens to match the lx5

i think that grip looks dog ugly...

hlokk · 16th September 2011, 12:43 AM

Some interesting things on it. Dont know if I would need a GPS, but the high speed is interesting. I assume it can do 720p at 60fps? Says inbuilt ND filter. Is that an automatic thing (if needed) or user selectable?

Though, full res pics at 9.6fps!

Modafroman · 16th September 2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hlokk

Some interesting things on it. Dont know if I would need a GPS, but the high speed is interesting. I assume it can do 720p at 60fps? Says inbuilt ND filter. Is that an automatic thing (if needed) or user selectable?

Though, full res pics at 9.6fps!

It's only 9.6fps on auto shooting at JPG.

On manual, shooting raw its 2.3fps (up from the S95s 0.8fps).

theSeekerr · 16th September 2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Modafroman

On manual, shooting raw its 2.3fps (up from the S95s 0.8fps).

Not that bad...I've got a 300D here that's very nearly as slow.

hlokk · 16th September 2011, 3:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modafroman

It's only 9.6fps on auto shooting at JPG.

On manual, shooting raw its 2.3fps (up from the S95s 0.8fps).

Bastards. Why cant you do it in full manual??

2.3 isnt too bad, but there are compacts out there that can manage 3+ no problems. The burst rates on compact cameras are someone canon really could improve on. Played with some sony one that took a stupid number quick (cause it had a touch screen so would often take more than the 1 you intended).

doigal · 16th September 2011, 6:40 AM

GPS and 24mm have pretty much sold this on paper for me, will wait for reviews but looks the goods. My S90 is an awesome little pocket camera and I have been wanting a GPS camera for ages.

Hopefully GPS will find its way into the 7d2??

onrelas · 16th September 2011, 9:30 AM

I'd be sold on the camera if it didn't have the gps crap (I don't see the appeal/use and it just makes the camera bigger). Plus the styling has taken a step in the wrong direction. There's a million ways they could of implemented the grip, why did they have to go with this daggy option?
That being said, I'm still using the s90 like many others as the s95 wasn't much of an upgrade. For us there's some proper new features now especially as far as video and image processing go.

csimpson · 16th September 2011, 9:34 AM

Grip looks yuck.

phreeky82 · 16th September 2011, 10:19 AM

Grip is a bit weird, I don't see it as a particular problem though.

The ring grip button is strange. I never found it to be a problem on top, I can only assume some mistook it for the on/off button?

Wider lens that's still F/2 at the wide end has to be good, assuming it is no worse than the old one.

Good that it's slimmer. The reason you buy one of these is so it can fit in your pocket.

Of most interest to me is the sensor. It's Canon made and yet there is some people saying Canon was to stop making sensors altogether and just use Sony sensors, but this makes me think Canon may in fact do the opposite and move to their own sensors throughout and may have made some good progress. Time will tell.

Squeezer · 16th September 2011, 10:51 AM

Wonder if they fixed the sound issues when recording in areas of high volume ( gigs ). The old panasonic TZ7 has great Audio but some of these newer high end P&S have shocking audio. Overall the S100 Looks promising on paper. Local suppliers (B&M) are selling the S95 for under $400 which is tempting but I might hold out for the s100 proper hands on reviews/tests/realworld feedback

15th September 2011, 11:55 PM	#1
Modafroman Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,051	Canon S100 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1109/11...0announced.asp and http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canons100/ I know the S95 is a hugely popular camera (I've got one and I love it) so I thought you guys might be interested if you haven't seen it. Changes include: 12.1mpx custom Canon made CMOS sensor, 24-120mm equiv (S95 was 28-105mm), 1080P video, GPS unit, improved IS system, etc etc. All in all not enough for me to want to get one over my S95, tho the vastly improved ISO performance due to the new CMOS sensor would be interesting (they quote 1/4th the noise @ ISO1600 JPG compared to the S95). Canon PowerShot S100 – key features: High-sensitivity 12.1 Megapixel Canon CMOS (1/1.7 type) HS System with powerful DIGIC 5 Ultra-wide 24mm, f/2.0, 5x zoom lens. Intelligent IS (24-120mm equiv.) Lens Control Ring, NR Control & RAW GPS Full HD, HDMI Large 7.5 cm (3.0″) LCD High-speed Burst HQ Also, the silver/gold colour looks horrible in my opinion. Black all the way. And the new front grip makes it look a bit funny imo, the S95 looks better. __________________ Audio: Westone 3 \| Hifiman HE-400 \| Matrix M-Stage Amp \| AT AD700 \| Photo: 5D Mk3 \| X100S \| 17-40mm/24-105mm/70-200mm f4L \| Σ 50mm f1.4 \| \o/CHAIR RAVER \o/ PC: i7 920@3.85Ghz \| Asus P6T-D \| 12GB Gskill \| Asus GTX680 DC2 \| Corsair H70+2xGTs \| OCZ Vertex 3 120GB \| 8TB HDDs \| Creative X-Fi Ti HD \| Fractal Design Define XL \| Corsair HX1000 \| Dell U2711+U2311 \| Last edited by Modafroman; 16th September 2011 at 12:07 AM.

16th September 2011, 12:08 AM	#3
RichoB Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Perth Posts: 438	I've been quietly waiting for this. My s95 got pinched and I haven't replaced it yet in anticipation for the 100. I expect I'll have it first day. I don't like the relocation of the ring function button, but it looks a couple of mm slimmer which is a good thing. __________________ me

16th September 2011, 12:39 AM	#6
SyN Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 6,976	ah! a lens to match the lx5 i think that grip looks dog ugly... __________________ You are now conscious of your breathing pattern. The one hundredth member of OCAU Camera Club Mark II Non-existant Fujifilm Finepix X100 club member #100

16th September 2011, 12:43 AM	#7
hlokk Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 3,951	Some interesting things on it. Dont know if I would need a GPS, but the high speed is interesting. I assume it can do 720p at 60fps? Says inbuilt ND filter. Is that an automatic thing (if needed) or user selectable? Though, full res pics at 9.6fps! __________________ Oh, for the love of science!

16th September 2011, 6:40 AM	#11
doigal Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Augsburg, Germany Posts: 2,789	GPS and 24mm have pretty much sold this on paper for me, will wait for reviews but looks the goods. My S90 is an awesome little pocket camera and I have been wanting a GPS camera for ages. Hopefully GPS will find its way into the 7d2?? __________________ \| The OCAU 'film is not dead' club member#020 \| Flickr Album \| Redbubble Prints

16th September 2011, 12:00 AM	#2
theartfuldodger Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 51	Specs look good. I'm a fan of the slow mo video, fairly awful quality but is a cool feature for a point and shoot. I don't really see the point of having 6400 ISO on such a small sensor though, the noise must be insane! What do you guys think it'll be priced at? $600?

16th September 2011, 9:30 AM	#12
onrelas Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,201	I'd be sold on the camera if it didn't have the gps crap (I don't see the appeal/use and it just makes the camera bigger). Plus the styling has taken a step in the wrong direction. There's a million ways they could of implemented the grip, why did they have to go with this daggy option? That being said, I'm still using the s90 like many others as the s95 wasn't much of an upgrade. For us there's some proper new features now especially as far as video and image processing go. __________________ __Yet another Photo Blog__ \| The OCAU 'film is not dead' club member#001 \|

16th September 2011, 9:34 AM	#13
csimpson Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 7,628	Grip looks yuck. __________________ twitter

16th September 2011, 10:19 AM	#14
phreeky82 Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Townsville Posts: 9,096	Grip is a bit weird, I don't see it as a particular problem though. The ring grip button is strange. I never found it to be a problem on top, I can only assume some mistook it for the on/off button? Wider lens that's still F/2 at the wide end has to be good, assuming it is no worse than the old one. Good that it's slimmer. The reason you buy one of these is so it can fit in your pocket. Of most interest to me is the sensor. It's Canon made and yet there is some people saying Canon was to stop making sensors altogether and just use Sony sensors, but this makes me think Canon may in fact do the opposite and move to their own sensors throughout and may have made some good progress. Time will tell. __________________ Successful trades: eyusuf, andy8, stuartl, michaeliam, theDarkHorse, bob

16th September 2011, 10:51 AM	#15
Squeezer Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide Posts: 6,423	Wonder if they fixed the sound issues when recording in areas of high volume ( gigs ). The old panasonic TZ7 has great Audio but some of these newer high end P&S have shocking audio. Overall the S100 Looks promising on paper. Local suppliers (B&M) are selling the S95 for under $400 which is tempting but I might hold out for the s100 proper hands on reviews/tests/realworld feedback __________________ Craftypics - Photography, Video, Timelapse