80GB Tape Backup taking 14hrs! Help? - Page 2

7nothing · 18th October 2007, 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tin

If that's what it is, I suggest a new drive. The only good reports I've seen on the VXA2 drives are from places that sell them (or Exabyte themselves).

They're not good, but what do you expect for 1/2 the price of an LTO drive?

OhFoRkMe · 19th October 2007, 9:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7nothing

They're not good, but what do you expect for 1/2 the price of an LTO drive?

Im fairly sure he was suggesting they were quite average...

to the OP:

Never had an issue with out AIT drives.

7nothing · 19th October 2007, 10:33 AM

Well, our VXA-2 manages 80.4 gig in 3 hours 55 minutes.

Menthu_Rae · 19th October 2007, 10:56 AM

OK, I've checked the drive... It is an...

HP Ultrium 448 Tape Drive (DW018A) External

Specs: http://www.citysoftware.com.au/Brows...temDetail.aspx

and

http://search.hp.com/query.html?char...018a&oc=dw018a

Sooo, does this mean anything to anyone??? Is it the cause of our problems - or is it our software/similar?

chunksoul · 19th October 2007, 11:05 AM

the tape drive should be fine.

It's fast enough to back ti up in far less hours.

I suggest getting a copy of backup exec

it isn't that expensive

i would also get it to write to a hard drive first.

sumguy55 · 19th October 2007, 11:43 AM

Why not just get an external hard drive? so much easier and quicker.

OhFoRkMe · 19th October 2007, 12:13 PM

Just double checked the amount of files we have:

602000 files
416GB

Backup using Backup Exec and AIT-4 Drive took 9hrs flat

Drunkmunky · 19th October 2007, 1:46 PM

We're using AIT2 on our main file server going on to 80gb tapes (208gb compressed) that takes only a couple of hours every night using a scripted ntbackup procedure.

tin · 19th October 2007, 5:45 PM

The Dell LTO (Seagate "ULTRIUM06242" really) drive I play with did 137GB in ~3.5 hours last night before running out of tape

That's on a Linux box though, so telling you the program would be useless.

I'd be looking for a new program. Grab the 60 day demo of backup exec and see if that helps. If it improves things a lot, then clearly it's the software, and you should either buy BackupExec or search for other options.

yoda123 · 19th October 2007, 5:49 PM

That drive is an LTO2 drive.. I have the internal version on order atm :P

I honestly don't think your problems are related to ntbackup.

More then likely something to do with it being an external device - possibly a faulty card ?

Smoke87 · 20th October 2007, 8:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sum_guy55

Why not just get an external hard drive? so much easier and quicker.

10 years after first hearing about tape drive backups, I'm still asking the same thing.

Zzapped · 20th October 2007, 9:41 AM

I run a similar setup to Tin @ work and average slightly higher speeds even across the lan using Backup Exec 11d

Cheers

Z

HeXa · 20th October 2007, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoke87

10 years after first hearing about tape drive backups, I'm still asking the same thing.

decent tape backup procedures have at least 10 tapes for a mix of nightly and weekly (over a month) incremental/full backups ... not to mention spares.

the idea is to also have something durable enough that you can "throw" into the safe or into a suitcase for off-site storage - portable HDDs are nowhere near enough robust for that unless you are talking SSD.

yoda123 · 20th October 2007, 10:44 AM

What they all said.

I still use tape for our "important" data due to running with 21 tapes...

Other servers however with less important data use USB HDD Backups.

Zzapped · 20th October 2007, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sum_guy55

Why not just get an external hard drive? so much easier and quicker.

208G AIT2 tape $49.00
200G HDD $78.00

Cheers

Z

19th October 2007, 10:33 AM	#18
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19th October 2007, 10:56 AM	#19
Menthu_Rae Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney Posts: 6,140	OK, I've checked the drive... It is an... HP Ultrium 448 Tape Drive (DW018A) External Specs: http://www.citysoftware.com.au/Brows...temDetail.aspx and http://search.hp.com/query.html?char...018a&oc=dw018a Sooo, does this mean anything to anyone??? Is it the cause of our problems - or is it our software/similar? __________________ System Specs: i7 3770K, Noctua NH-U12P SE2, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3-1600, ASUS P8Z77-V Premium, 2048MB Zotac GTX680, ASUS Xonar Essence One, 120GB/240GB Samsung 840 SSDs, 2x 3TB Toshiba HDDs [RAID1], 2x Zalman ZMMFC-1 Plus, Dell U3011 30" LCD, Creative T-40 Series II 2.0, LianLi PC-A71B, 8x Scythe SFF21G, 1kW Silverstone ST1000P. Over 50 Trades. Last edited by Menthu_Rae; 19th October 2007 at 10:59 AM.

19th October 2007, 11:05 AM	#20
chunksoul Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: adelaide millswood Posts: 2,366	the tape drive should be fine. It's fast enough to back ti up in far less hours. I suggest getting a copy of backup exec it isn't that expensive i would also get it to write to a hard drive first. __________________ people i have had successful trades with kedztafe. mykal,nip007,rfsefton,autumn,a million other dudes

19th October 2007, 12:13 PM	#22
OhFoRkMe Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greenslopes 4120 Posts: 2,762	Just double checked the amount of files we have: 602000 files 416GB Backup using Backup Exec and AIT-4 Drive took 9hrs flat __________________ Main PC / Gaming PC 100+ Trades Buying and Selling

19th October 2007, 5:45 PM	#24
tin Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Narrabri NSW Posts: 5,652	The Dell LTO (Seagate "ULTRIUM06242" really) drive I play with did 137GB in ~3.5 hours last night before running out of tape That's on a Linux box though, so telling you the program would be useless. I'd be looking for a new program. Grab the 60 day demo of backup exec and see if that helps. If it improves things a lot, then clearly it's the software, and you should either buy BackupExec or search for other options. __________________ ©®£¤¥±²³¶µ»«¼½¾¿§ The software required Win95 or better, so I installed Linux. Question marks are the new full stop?

19th October 2007, 11:43 AM	#21
sumguy55 (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: mckinnon.mel.vic:3204 Posts: 418	Why not just get an external hard drive? so much easier and quicker.

19th October 2007, 1:46 PM	#23
Drunkmunky Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hobart Posts: 1,843	We're using AIT2 on our main file server going on to 80gb tapes (208gb compressed) that takes only a couple of hours every night using a scripted ntbackup procedure.

19th October 2007, 5:49 PM	#25
yoda123 Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: QLD Posts: 2,648	That drive is an LTO2 drive.. I have the internal version on order atm :P I honestly don't think your problems are related to ntbackup. More then likely something to do with it being an external device - possibly a faulty card ?

20th October 2007, 10:44 AM	#29
yoda123 Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: QLD Posts: 2,648	What they all said. I still use tape for our "important" data due to running with 21 tapes... Other servers however with less important data use USB HDD Backups.