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Crike · 4th January 2008, 8:27 AM

Taking all this in guys... thank you very much.

PostModern · 4th January 2008, 9:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Yossarian

The Samsung GX10 (K10D equivalent) can be had for about $820 delivered from B&H with the 18-55 lens (Scnieder lens but I believe it is a rebadged Pentax lens).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=481161&is=REG

Schneider is not rebadged Pentax. Samsung branded lenses are rebadged Pentax. Pentax have a green ring, Samsung, blue. Schneider are an old lens maker from yonks ago, now manufacturing in Vietnam. Superb lenses.

http://www.schneideroptics.com/

Yossarian · 4th January 2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PostModern

Schneider is not rebadged Pentax. Samsung branded lenses are rebadged Pentax. Pentax have a green ring, Samsung, blue. Schneider are an old lens maker from yonks ago, now manufacturing in Vietnam. Superb lenses.

http://www.schneideroptics.com/

Are you sure? The only reason I thought this is because I have a Samsung 50-200 for my K10D, made in Vietnam, and on the lens rim is written "Schneider-Kreuznach".

What I probably should have said is that the Samsung lens is a lens built to Pentax specifications/design by another manufacturer. Is that right?

PostModern · 4th January 2008, 1:11 PM

I haven't actually seen the contracts or anything

All I know is a friend of mine has the GX-10 with a Schneider lens and it's branded Schneider, as per the link you showed. I have a Pentax Made Pentax and that's all I knows. Samsung may well have more than one supplier for lenses. I read a review or GX-10/K10D comparison somewhere which mentioned about the blue rings on Pentax lenses branded Samsung.

metawaffle · 4th January 2008, 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cpl_punish

Get your hands on some.. features are cool but your going to be holding it for hours on end.

Also go for the D40 over the D40x if you decide to go down that route.. the extra megapixels is not worth the extra price (spend it on a 50mm f/1.8 which you will want to use all the time

Some other people also suggest 1Ds MkII w/ 600mm IS lens.

Agreed about the D40 over the D40x, but unfortunately the 50mm/1.8 won't autofocus with those bodies

Shame, since both the D40 and the 50/1.8 are so nice and (relatively) cheap.

Yossarian · 4th January 2008, 2:15 PM

After a bit of research on Dpreview, it appears the Samsung and Pentax lens are the same lens from the same factory. All Sumsung lens have the name "Schneider-Kreuznach" stamped on them, as Samsung paid a license fee to put it there. Schneider-Kreuznach have nothing to do with the manufacture or design of these lenses.

So to the OP, if you can get Samsung/Schneider-Kreuznach lens, rest assured they are the same as the Pentax lenses (just rebadged). And the GX-10 differences are in the bios and cosmetic shape of the camera/lcd screen only. The only disadvantage that I know of is that the Pentax battery grip will not fit it and I don't believe Samsung make an alternative.

PostModern · 4th January 2008, 2:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yossarian

After a bit of research on Dpreview, it appears the Samsung and Pentax lens are the same lens from the same factory. All Sumsung lens have the name "Schneider-Kreuznach" stamped on them, as Samsung paid a license fee to put it there. Schneider-Kreuznach have nothing to do with the manufacture or design of these lenses.

So to the OP, if you can get Samsung/Schneider-Kreuznach lens, rest assured they are the same as the Pentax lenses (just rebadged). And the GX-10 differences are in the bios and cosmetic shape of the camera/lcd screen only. The only disadvantage that I know of is that the Pentax battery grip will not fit it and I don't believe Samsung make an alternative.

That's weird. Why wouldn't they just put Samsung on them? It's like Holden rebadging Isuzus as Opels.

chunksoul · 4th January 2008, 2:47 PM

just to give my 2 cents worth.

you want to go canon 2nd hand

it just has more options with 2nd hand lenses

sir_bazz · 4th January 2008, 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chunksoul

it just has more options with 2nd hand lenses

I'm not sure what you mean.

More 2nd hand lenses as in number of different lenses or more as more are offered for sale at any one time?

bazz

qwijibo · 4th January 2008, 3:35 PM

Another option is K10D + 18-55mm sigma for $999 from Ted's.

Was procrastinating over acquiring one myself - apart from the alleged update coming later this month.

But you're probably better off buying a lower-cost body and a better lens.

Crike · 4th January 2008, 3:51 PM

Yeah, maybe.

I'll go to the city in a few days and see what they're all like in terms of size and things, might make decision making a bit easier.

cpl punish · 5th January 2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by metawaffle

Agreed about the D40 over the D40x, but unfortunately the 50mm/1.8 won't autofocus with those bodies

Shame, since both the D40 and the 50/1.8 are so nice and (relatively) cheap.

It takes a bit of getting used to, but the results are worth it!

Steak Face · 5th January 2008, 12:18 PM

I just bought a D40 off e-bay. It's a refurbished one from Nikon and came with a 12 month Australian Nikon Warranty. Paid $522.00 including the 18-55 lense and all the accessories.

If the box didn't have a few marks on it it would easily be mistaken as brand new. Cables, battery etc were all in sealed bags and appeared to have never been used (still had original ties around them). The lense was also in a sealed bag and there is not a single mark on it any where.

Been very happy with it so far - the difference between this and my canon p&s is amazing. I look forward to learning how to use it properly.

BTW I found the camera's manual very good and also the camera's menus and inbuilt help also very good. If your a beginner in SLR (like me) I think it's a great choice.

xhanatos · 5th January 2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PostModern

That's weird. Why wouldn't they just put Samsung on them? It's like Holden rebadging Isuzus as Opels.

because Schneider-Kreuznach sounds pro y0!

Midz · 5th January 2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by qwijibo

Another option is K10D + 18-55mm sigma for $999 from Ted's.

Is that an advertised price for the k10d?

4th January 2008, 8:27 AM	#31
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4th January 2008, 1:11 PM	#34
PostModern Angry Brewer Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Woonona, Illawarra, NSW Posts: 5,084	I haven't actually seen the contracts or anything All I know is a friend of mine has the GX-10 with a Schneider lens and it's branded Schneider, as per the link you showed. I have a Pentax Made Pentax and that's all I knows. Samsung may well have more than one supplier for lenses. I read a review or GX-10/K10D comparison somewhere which mentioned about the blue rings on Pentax lenses branded Samsung. __________________ The mouth of a perfectly happy man is filled with beer.

4th January 2008, 2:47 PM	#38
chunksoul Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: adelaide millswood Posts: 2,366	just to give my 2 cents worth. you want to go canon 2nd hand it just has more options with 2nd hand lenses __________________ people i have had successful trades with kedztafe. mykal,nip007,rfsefton,autumn,a million other dudes

4th January 2008, 3:51 PM	#41
Crike Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: sydney Posts: 154	Yeah, maybe. I'll go to the city in a few days and see what they're all like in terms of size and things, might make decision making a bit easier. __________________ Trades with: Danthemanz, HyperZ, Afurotsu, Finnigan, Wookie_Man (x2), Draxx, 1nc0de, Vaempyr, Vija, smithy73, bAbY_RoG3R, majikshoe, thewingbot, Enny Mini, ozdealer, natman, DavLe.BeRRy, CHINNO, comtechman911, special.k, tiro_uspsss, Doobs, azz, DBDingo, aussie-revhead, aspring, otaku_08, breech

4th January 2008, 2:15 PM	#36
Yossarian Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 143	After a bit of research on Dpreview, it appears the Samsung and Pentax lens are the same lens from the same factory. All Sumsung lens have the name "Schneider-Kreuznach" stamped on them, as Samsung paid a license fee to put it there. Schneider-Kreuznach have nothing to do with the manufacture or design of these lenses. So to the OP, if you can get Samsung/Schneider-Kreuznach lens, rest assured they are the same as the Pentax lenses (just rebadged). And the GX-10 differences are in the bios and cosmetic shape of the camera/lcd screen only. The only disadvantage that I know of is that the Pentax battery grip will not fit it and I don't believe Samsung make an alternative.

4th January 2008, 3:35 PM	#40
qwijibo Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brisvegas Posts: 419	Another option is K10D + 18-55mm sigma for $999 from Ted's. Was procrastinating over acquiring one myself - apart from the alleged update coming later this month. But you're probably better off buying a lower-cost body and a better lens.

5th January 2008, 12:18 PM	#43
Steak Face Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 691	I just bought a D40 off e-bay. It's a refurbished one from Nikon and came with a 12 month Australian Nikon Warranty. Paid $522.00 including the 18-55 lense and all the accessories. If the box didn't have a few marks on it it would easily be mistaken as brand new. Cables, battery etc were all in sealed bags and appeared to have never been used (still had original ties around them). The lense was also in a sealed bag and there is not a single mark on it any where. Been very happy with it so far - the difference between this and my canon p&s is amazing. I look forward to learning how to use it properly. BTW I found the camera's manual very good and also the camera's menus and inbuilt help also very good. If your a beginner in SLR (like me) I think it's a great choice.