RAID 0 Guide: Set-up, OS installation, and Optimization - Page 10

Gnuthad · 14th December 2002, 2:38 AM

Have you got any hard drives on the normal controller or are you running just the CD-ROM? If you are running just the CD-ROM, there's your problem, you probably haven't got your RAID support until after you boot into Windows which, IIRC, you cannot do without a writable device (HDD).

Mickatroid · 14th December 2002, 7:08 PM

I am a bit confused by Gnuthad. If it freezes on booting from CD ROM it can't have had a chance to ask for Raid drivers yet...

I have a possible solution. Try changing your ata cables. I had exactly the same freezeup with booting from cd on my 8k9a2+ (highpoint) but with just one drive on the raid array (for the moment). I unplugged and replugged my HDD ATA cable at both ends (not too long after a new install so I thought mabe some plastic was in the connector or such) and the problem went away

. I am a bit sus on it but dare not complain

Also there could be some kind of weid cross talk with that much going on, route em carefully etc. Don't use rounded cables (see www.dansdata.com on that stuff) too. Mabe cover your case window if you have one incase there is some weird interaction with external EMI. You have some weird shit going down there. Good luck.

PS: I reckon big case windows are a bit silly for EM, some square chicken wire behind the window, electrically connected the the side of the case, would just about fix it

RaD · 19th January 2003, 2:38 AM

Moved to our new Storage Forum

RaD

damage69 · 19th January 2003, 1:16 PM

I have a similar problem ikonz0r, but not with any Windows products (pity), only have this problem with Linux, Ghost 2001 and older, and a couple of older diagnostic programs when booting from a floppy or CDROM, I hope to hear if you or somebody has worked out your problem.
I had to turn off promise device in BIOS (pain in the arse) just to install Linux and use it, I had a 13Gb Fireball CX that I used to put Linux on. (This is a whore of a PC as it has had more operating systems on it than a pro has done blow jobs)

ikonz0r · 19th January 2003, 6:18 PM

Oh just to those that gave input and might care about what happened with me .

it was a problem with the IDE cables and the fact that 1 of the HDD"s was just about DEAD

so a replace of the cables got 2 workin flawless.. and the other 2 still need 1 replaced

( ill get around to it eventually )

thanks!

- ikon

ronemca · 29th January 2003, 5:11 AM

Greetings from frozen Southern Canada! Outside temp is -25C, in case you're curious. This site is really helpful. Already I've learned a lot...and I don't even have my HighPoint ATA100 yet! So, here's my Q: With XPH installed on ONE Barracuda IV/40G, I'm putting in a second Barracuda IV/40. I also have a Fuj 13G/5400. Although I intend to stripe at 16/16 NTFS, I'd like to confirm something first: If I were going RAID 1, (after install card and connect both drives to card and reboot) would card BIOS 'realize' second drive is empty and automatically build it up to a full mirror of original drive?. Or do I have to re-install XP no matter if I want 0 or 1? TIA, Ron.

daffy · 8th February 2003, 12:40 PM

I would imagine its a case of going into the RAID utility at boot, go to the part for mirroring the array, use the existing drive as a source and copying that data over to the new drive.

Nobes · 18th February 2003, 12:37 PM

EDIT: no matter i dont need help anymore
i just backup everything

yorky · 21st February 2003, 5:50 PM

How come that 'Breeze Patch' link does not work anymore? I can't even find it on the net! I must be blind! I'm getting a RAID card for my Via KT400 m/b and this has been suggested as the best (better than Via's own driver/patch).

Iceman · 4th April 2003, 12:17 AM

I pm'ed chainy with the update a couple of week ago.. he hasn't updated his post yet though.

The breeze/breese pci latency patch can now be found here:

http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/

yorky · 4th April 2003, 11:39 AM

Thanks for that. BUT it says that the new one MUST NOT BE USED on the KT400?

aresaid · 7th April 2003, 10:12 PM

I can't find how to repartition and format the primary partition as per chainbolts explaination.

There is just no option there. And it is saying that it has NTFS file structure even though I didn't tell it to do that.
Running 2x80GB IBM 120GXP's.
First partition is ~130GB.
2nd is ~20GB.
NFI why I can't do it.

The Mafia · 24th April 2003, 11:05 PM

I tried formating to 32\32 chunksizes, and I got no difference in performance.

I am Running a Hotrod 100 Pro (2.34 Bios) with 2 x 40 gig Maxtor Diamond Max 8 Drives (6E040l0)

and with it set to 4\32 I get these results -

anyone got any input on this?

ikonz0r · 24th April 2003, 11:16 PM

only that those are very nice figures

The Mafia · 29th April 2003, 3:28 PM

after a defrag and a little tweaking

14th December 2002, 7:08 PM	#137
Mickatroid Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canberra Posts: 882	I am a bit confused by Gnuthad. If it freezes on booting from CD ROM it can't have had a chance to ask for Raid drivers yet... I have a possible solution. Try changing your ata cables. I had exactly the same freezeup with booting from cd on my 8k9a2+ (highpoint) but with just one drive on the raid array (for the moment). I unplugged and replugged my HDD ATA cable at both ends (not too long after a new install so I thought mabe some plastic was in the connector or such) and the problem went away . I am a bit sus on it but dare not complain Also there could be some kind of weid cross talk with that much going on, route em carefully etc. Don't use rounded cables (see www.dansdata.com on that stuff) too. Mabe cover your case window if you have one incase there is some weird interaction with external EMI. You have some weird shit going down there. Good luck. PS: I reckon big case windows are a bit silly for EM, some square chicken wire behind the window, electrically connected the the side of the case, would just about fix it Last edited by Mickatroid; 14th December 2002 at 7:11 PM.

19th January 2003, 1:16 PM	#139
damage69 Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Singleton NSW Posts: 34	I have a similar problem ikonz0r, but not with any Windows products (pity), only have this problem with Linux, Ghost 2001 and older, and a couple of older diagnostic programs when booting from a floppy or CDROM, I hope to hear if you or somebody has worked out your problem. I had to turn off promise device in BIOS (pain in the arse) just to install Linux and use it, I had a 13Gb Fireball CX that I used to put Linux on. (This is a whore of a PC as it has had more operating systems on it than a pro has done blow jobs) __________________ Lian Li Owners Club Member #35 Proud owner of a PC-60 Early non USB Folding@Home Milestone 80000 points 1500 Folding Club

19th January 2003, 6:18 PM	#140
ikonz0r Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brisvegas Posts: 2,106	Oh just to those that gave input and might care about what happened with me . it was a problem with the IDE cables and the fact that 1 of the HDD"s was just about DEAD so a replace of the cables got 2 workin flawless.. and the other 2 still need 1 replaced ( ill get around to it eventually ) thanks! - ikon __________________ www.digitalfunk.net \| Pixel Junkie & Core Gamer ╭∩╮（︶︿︶）╭∩╮

29th January 2003, 5:11 AM	#141
ronemca Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 9	Newbie RAID 0 Greetings from frozen Southern Canada! Outside temp is -25C, in case you're curious. This site is really helpful. Already I've learned a lot...and I don't even have my HighPoint ATA100 yet! So, here's my Q: With XPH installed on ONE Barracuda IV/40G, I'm putting in a second Barracuda IV/40. I also have a Fuj 13G/5400. Although I intend to stripe at 16/16 NTFS, I'd like to confirm something first: If I were going RAID 1, (after install card and connect both drives to card and reboot) would card BIOS 'realize' second drive is empty and automatically build it up to a full mirror of original drive?. Or do I have to re-install XP no matter if I want 0 or 1? TIA, Ron. Last edited by ronemca; 29th January 2003 at 11:28 AM.

8th February 2003, 12:40 PM	#142
daffy Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,267	I would imagine its a case of going into the RAID utility at boot, go to the part for mirroring the array, use the existing drive as a source and copying that data over to the new drive. __________________ NOTHING A 10 ROUND BURST WONT FIX.

14th December 2002, 2:38 AM	#136
Gnuthad Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,638	Have you got any hard drives on the normal controller or are you running just the CD-ROM? If you are running just the CD-ROM, there's your problem, you probably haven't got your RAID support until after you boot into Windows which, IIRC, you cannot do without a writable device (HDD).

19th January 2003, 2:38 AM	#138
RaD Admin OC&H / Games Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gold Coast Oz Posts: 2,722	Moved to our new Storage Forum RaD

18th February 2003, 12:37 PM	#143
Nobes Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Hobart Posts: 1,296	EDIT: no matter i dont need help anymore i just backup everything __________________ My drinking club has a rugby problem. Last edited by Nobes; 21st February 2003 at 12:24 AM.

21st February 2003, 5:50 PM	#144
yorky Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Perth Posts: 2,668	How come that 'Breeze Patch' link does not work anymore? I can't even find it on the net! I must be blind! I'm getting a RAID card for my Via KT400 m/b and this has been suggested as the best (better than Via's own driver/patch). __________________ Q6600 G0 @3Ghz\|Zalman 9500LED\|2x2GB Team Xtreem Dark 1066Mhz CL5\|XFX GTX280/1GB\|Gigabyte X38-DQ6\|300GB VelociRaptor\|

4th April 2003, 12:17 AM	#145
Iceman Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane (nth), Australia Posts: 6,304	I pm'ed chainy with the update a couple of week ago.. he hasn't updated his post yet though. The breeze/breese pci latency patch can now be found here: http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/ __________________ _,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸_ WTB: Cisco 1801-M PM me Please rehash my posts and pass them off as your own ideas! Triple points for doing it in the same page of the thread. Plagiarism is the sincerest form of copyright infringement.

4th April 2003, 11:39 AM	#146
yorky Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Perth Posts: 2,668	Thanks for that. BUT it says that the new one MUST NOT BE USED on the KT400? __________________ Q6600 G0 @3Ghz\|Zalman 9500LED\|2x2GB Team Xtreem Dark 1066Mhz CL5\|XFX GTX280/1GB\|Gigabyte X38-DQ6\|300GB VelociRaptor\|

7th April 2003, 10:12 PM	#147
aresaid Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Adelaide - Unley Posts: 1,246	I can't find how to repartition and format the primary partition as per chainbolts explaination. There is just no option there. And it is saying that it has NTFS file structure even though I didn't tell it to do that. Running 2x80GB IBM 120GXP's. First partition is ~130GB. 2nd is ~20GB. NFI why I can't do it. __________________ DFI SLI-DR \| 3000+ Venice @ 2.7GHz \| 2x1GB Ballistix Z503 \| Gigabyte 6800GT @ 410/550 \| Sony G420 \| 3x80GB, 1x200GB HDD \| Audigy2 ZS & HD270's

24th April 2003, 11:05 PM	#148
The Mafia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mackay Posts: 1,275	I tried formating to 32\32 chunksizes, and I got no difference in performance. I am Running a Hotrod 100 Pro (2.34 Bios) with 2 x 40 gig Maxtor Diamond Max 8 Drives (6E040l0) and with it set to 4\32 I get these results - anyone got any input on this?

24th April 2003, 11:16 PM	#149
ikonz0r Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Brisvegas Posts: 2,106	only that those are very nice figures __________________ www.digitalfunk.net \| Pixel Junkie & Core Gamer ╭∩╮（︶︿︶）╭∩╮

29th April 2003, 3:28 PM	#150
The Mafia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mackay Posts: 1,275	after a defrag and a little tweaking