[WIN7] Windows 7 Discussion [Retail release Oct 22]

[MR CHILLED]

Looks like some early info on the next OS is filtering through (M1 release currently)....not long to wait either until final release......

http://apcmag.com/7874/windows_7_to_...ased_next_year

A recently-release roadmap for the next major Window release – Windows 7 – indicates that Microsoft is planning to release the new operating system in the second half of 2009, rather than the anticipated release date of some time in 2010.

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Apparently the last Windows OS to be in 32bit.

Some alledged videos here:

http://www.istartedsomething.com/200...stone-1-video/

On first observations it just looks like more of Vista to me.

Initial user thoughts from someone who has used it:

http://www.istartedsomething.com/200...-windows-7-m1/

So here we’re at it, again

Over the weekend I finally managed to play with the build…. but disappointed.

One my primary machine, it asked for my SATA driver (never happened when installing Vista, as my drives were set as IDE in BIOS). After adding the driver from my USB thumb drive it would finally install. It didn’t boot after first restart, however.

On my laptop it installed perfectly, but with no driver support for the video card. After numerous tries I gave up in the end, so Aero is now left in the dark.

Oh well, so there’s nothing to show.

The build is 6.1.6519.

The GUI, as much of you have..................

PRO TIPS/HINTS/TRICKS/FIXES

(1) How to get gadgets working whilst having UAC turned off: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...postcount=1798

OBTAINING A COPY OF THE BETA

PM me and I can assist.

[round]

its a start...

[iTool]

Originally Posted by MR CHILLED

Apparently the last Windows OS to be in 32bit.

I thought I heard the same thing about Vista before it was released... but maybe since they are trying to push this one out earlier than previously thought they think it is too soon to go 64bit only.

[Lardman]

Even though programs are beginning to push the 3gb RAM address maximum?

I'd say it should be 64b only.

[round]

Originally Posted by Lardman

I'd say it should be 64b only.

same....all processor for the last 2 years have been 64bit....dont need a 32bit OS, especially with them including emulation in the OS...

[YoungFarting]

Lets not be to hasty in judging it.
It's still early days and anything can be changed spec wise.

Lets not forget that until SP1, vista should be regarded as being in RC stage.

[Semi-Evolved]

I was disappointed when I heard they were even releasing Vista in a 32 bit version, but the next release as well? Ah well, at least they've stated it will be the last.

[Mystery Man]

The thing is is that most people are still using 32bit so i guess Microsoft is waiting for the majority of people to switch first before forcing people to use a 64bit only operating system. Imagine the outcry from people if vista was 64bit only. It just wouldnt have worked especially since there was a lack of drivers & so forth.

[skid]

Yeah, I agree with the rest. This next version should be 64bit only. I'm sure it will contain a 32bit thunk like Vista64 and XP64. 64bit PC chips have been out since 2004... c'mon already.

[Suki]

Originally Posted by Mystery Man

The thing is is that most people are still using 32bit so i guess Microsoft is waiting for the majority of people to switch first before forcing people to use a 64bit only operating system. Imagine the outcry from people if vista was 64bit only. It just wouldnt have worked especially since there was a lack of drivers & so forth.

Small business just isn't anything like ready for Vista, let alone 64bit Vista.
OEM XP was extended by MS reluctantly as all the local Ma 'n' Pa shops turned to various Linux distro's to support their small business customers' existing software.
IMHO, MS discovered a market driven limit to their OS control. All 64bit is coming PR from MS should be seen in the context that they now accept this fundamental limitation to their power to force a take it or leave it situation on the market.
Personally, I'd love a 64bit only regime but it ain't going to happen any time soon.

[-=N0N@ME420=-]

Originally Posted by MR CHILLED

On first observations it just looks like more of Vista to me.

Cmon chilled, you know better than that.

In alpha stages every new windows version has looked like the last :/

[Logistics]

Originally Posted by YoungFarting

Lets not forget that until SP1, vista should be regarded as being in RC stage.

Ignorance my friend, ignorance

[Xplora]

Originally Posted by Suki

Small business just isn't anything like ready for Vista, let alone 64bit Vista.
OEM XP was extended by MS reluctantly as all the local Ma 'n' Pa shops turned to various Linux distro's to support their small business customers' existing software.
IMHO, MS discovered a market driven limit to their OS control. All 64bit is coming PR from MS should be seen in the context that they now accept this fundamental limitation to their power to force a take it or leave it situation on the market.
Personally, I'd love a 64bit only regime but it ain't going to happen any time soon.

Realistically, it's the little people that will push Microsoft's bottom line along, not big business. Big business can do deals with Apple or Linux to get what they like - but the small businesses who buy legit software are going to be the bulk of their ongoing business. These people don't like having to throw their PC away every couple years. Buy a tool, it should work for years to come.

MS has been quite arrogant about its market position of recent times. I think they fail to see the dramatic ground being covered by other companies who aren't so ready to dictate the way their software gets used. Adobe is a fabulous example. PDF and Flash are ubitiquous now...

[Suki]

Yeah the legacy issue MS missed allowing for - what ever the local accountants use. lol
Seriously. One side of my life is a Hereford stud. All the specialised weighing, breeding records, genetic data base that requires is tied into hardware linking cattle scales to a breed wide genetic performance reporting/predicting program and my own records.
No way in the world does that get changed to suit an OS. Quite the opposite. Just like all the other small farmers supplied by grey case builder shops.

I think MS now recognise that reality. The fact that XP is still on sale pretty much tells us so.

[Krinos]

Originally Posted by Suki

Small business just isn't anything like ready for Vista, let alone 64bit Vista.
OEM XP was extended by MS reluctantly as all the local Ma 'n' Pa shops turned to various Linux distro's to support their small business customers' existing software.

I wholeheartedly disagree with this sentiment. Small businesses are far more able to run with Vista (or new operating systems for that matter) than big business. Small businesses generally don't run that much specialised software - accounting software such as MYOB or Quickbooks release compatible updates much faster than larger ERP systems, and the mid to high turnover rate of small businesses in this day and age mean that newcomers buying new systems will often purchase with OEM new MS operating systems installed, either at the suggestion of their small business specialist, or from Harvey Norman or Dell/HP.

Little to no 'Ma 'n' Pa' shops will go with Linux, simply because its far far easier to find small business specialists with Microsoft backgrounds, and it requires less after sales support to run MS based Windows machines with the much more common windows based programs (MYOB, QB) than any Linux solutions. Can you name me any Linux equivalents of the above two popular programs?