HELP! Crucial Ballistix RAM is giving me Blue Screen!!

tonycfc · 4th February 2008, 9:34 AM

Hi, I have purchased Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1066 RAM 1GB * 2 (total 2GB) from US around 2 weeks ago from PGN (or PNG??)... Yesterday when I was setting up my new PC. During the installion of Windows XP, it came up Blue Screen... i was like wtf? then I changed the RAM to PQI DDR2-800 1GB * 2 ram... and it worked fine!!!

ok!! so.. i used PQI ram to finish up installing Windows XP. After that i changed it back to 2GB Crucial Ballistix. It was fine when i was doing web browsing or MSN... after I installed the game - Team Fortress 2. I played around 15mins then it came up blue screen again! i was so pissed! lol... then i restarted my pc and played the game again... 10mins later... blue screen again! OMFG!! alright... fine... now i changed to PQI ram again and test with team fortress 2. YES!!!! i played 1.5 hours and no errors! so i think the ram is having problem?

i restarted my PC and checked BIOS... The timing for PQI is:

CAS Latency Time 5
DRAM Ras# to CAS# Delay 5
DRAM Ras# Precharge 5
Precharge delay (CRAS) 16

is this mean 5-5-5-16???

anyway... then i changed to Crucial Ballistix ram again and checked the timing:

CAS Latency Time 5
DRAM Ras# to CAS# Delay 7
DRAM Ras# Precharge 7
Precharge delay (CRAS) 24

5-7-7-24?? (wtf? huge different!)

so can anyone tell me is the timing or other things of the Crucial Ballistix RAM is having problem? (i think is the timing...)... if is the timing issue then what speed should i change to? please advise!

MY SPEC:

E8400 3.0GHz
Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1066 1GB * 2 (not working fine...)
PQI DDR-800 1GB * 2 (it works fine)
GA-P35-DS3-R v2.1 (BIOS F11)
Inno3D 8800GTS 512MB (the latest driver but forgot the name)
40GB + 500GB HDD
Silverstone 750W PSU

The RAM is new and i didnt OC my system! they are all running default! OCer.... please help me! thank you!

Menthu_Rae · 4th February 2008, 9:44 AM

Set the Ballistix RAM voltage to 2.0V

Set the timing as 4-4-4-12-2T.

Set the RAM speed as DDR2-800 (800MHz).

Download memtest86 version 3.3

http://www.memtest86.com/

Burn it to a CD, boot the CD, run memtest for about 3 loops (every test, 3 times).

Then post back here.

davemelb · 4th February 2008, 9:54 AM

The Ballistix is rated at 2.2v with 5,5,5,15 timings so if you suggest he do otherwise it might fail the test.

Try booting with one stick.

Menthu_Rae · 4th February 2008, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davemelb

The Ballistix is rated at 2.2v with 5,5,5,15 timings so if you suggest he do otherwise it might fail the test.

Try booting with one stick.

2.2V 5-5-5-15 @ 1066 MHz...

I'm running mine at 2.0V 4-4-4-12 @ 800MHz and have memtested fine. Have been running them like this since August 2007.

He can try 2.2V if he wants, but he'd better have good cooling over the DIMM slot area...

davemelb · 4th February 2008, 10:14 AM

I think he should test the RAM at whichever speed and voltage it is rated to do. If it gets too hot or is damaged from excessive heat, then I believe he has good grounds to file a warranty claim.

Menthu_Rae · 4th February 2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davemelb

I think he should test the RAM at whichever speed and voltage it is rated to do. If it gets too hot or is damaged from excessive heat, then I believe he has good grounds to file a warranty claim.

Then he should run it at 1.8V 667MHz, 4-5-5-15-2T... that's what it's rated for by SPD at that speed and at least he won't fry his RAM that way.

http://www.wksclan.com/Misc/timings.jpg

Regardless of whether he could get warranty or not (I doubt it... stuff getting too hot is the end users fault, not the manufacturers) - I think it's easier if he runs voltage <2.0V so he doesn't have to ship his RAM back to America or wherever it came from...

Slidey · 4th February 2008, 10:36 AM

Crucial Ballistix ram 1066 is rated at 2.2 5-5-5-15 so why wouldnt he run it at that? That would be a safety rating also, if they were frying at 2.2 they wouldnt sell them advertised at that voltage.

EDIT: anyhow, do the memtest as suggested and post back the results.

Menthu_Rae · 4th February 2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slidey

Crucial Ballistix ram 1066 is rated at 2.2 5-5-5-15 so why wouldnt he run it at that? That would be a safety rating also, if they were frying at 2.2 they wouldnt sell them advertised at that voltage.

EDIT: anyhow, do the memtest as suggested and post back the results.

I'm not saying he can't do it, I'm just saying make sure he has good cooling if he runs them at 2.2V...

Do you guys even own Ballistix RAM? Have you touched it when it's running at 2.2V?

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...ot#post8310425

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...ot#post7806899

tonycfc · 4th February 2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Menthu_Rae

2.2V 5-5-5-15 @ 1066 MHz...

I'm running mine at 2.0V 4-4-4-12 @ 800MHz and have memtested fine. Have been running them like this since August 2007.

He can try 2.2V if he wants, but he'd better have good cooling over the DIMM slot area...

i am using TT U120 heatsink for my CPU with 120mm fan... it sucks all the hot air that comes out from the RAM... i know this is probably not enough but is it still alright?

tonycfc · 4th February 2008, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davemelb

The Ballistix is rated at 2.2v with 5,5,5,15 timings so if you suggest he do otherwise it might fail the test.

Try booting with one stick.

i have booted with either 1 or 2 sticks.. still failed lol

Saiyan_Overlord · 4th February 2008, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonycfc

i have booted with either 1 or 2 sticks.. still failed lol

Did you even bother to tweak teh voltage and timing settings as already suggested?

My Ballistix/lanfest kits are running flawlessly together @ 1000mhz 4-4-4-12 2.20v, can't really be bothered to clock them higher though.

tonycfc · 4th February 2008, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saiyan_Overlord

Did you even bother to tweak teh voltage and timing settings as already suggested?

My Ballistix/lanfest kits are running flawlessly together @ 1000mhz 4-4-4-12 2.20v, can't really be bothered to clock them higher though.

sorry i mean i tested with either 1 or 2 sticks yesterday and it didnt work.. i am at work now so i will try it tonight...

duck_boy · 4th February 2008, 2:40 PM

why don't you just set it as 4-4-4-12 DDR2 800 or 5-5-5-15 DDR2 1066 at 2.2v see if they run properly. Remember to put a fan over the ram Because they get hot. IF they fail then RMA.

tonycfc · 5th February 2008, 10:53 AM

hi i got my pc up and running with no blue screen anymore...

can someone provide me a link with the software on how to check the system if it is stable? it is a software which comes up a big green letter "OK" in the middle of the software and it makes the CPU to run on full load? i forgot whats that call... if someone know then please tell me? thanks

Slidey · 5th February 2008, 11:33 AM

Program is called Orthos.

Grab it from here http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm

btw, what did you do to get your ram working ?

4th February 2008, 9:34 AM	#1
tonycfc Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 370	HELP! Crucial Ballistix RAM is giving me Blue Screen!! Hi, I have purchased Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1066 RAM 1GB * 2 (total 2GB) from US around 2 weeks ago from PGN (or PNG??)... Yesterday when I was setting up my new PC. During the installion of Windows XP, it came up Blue Screen... i was like wtf? then I changed the RAM to PQI DDR2-800 1GB * 2 ram... and it worked fine!!! ok!! so.. i used PQI ram to finish up installing Windows XP. After that i changed it back to 2GB Crucial Ballistix. It was fine when i was doing web browsing or MSN... after I installed the game - Team Fortress 2. I played around 15mins then it came up blue screen again! i was so pissed! lol... then i restarted my pc and played the game again... 10mins later... blue screen again! OMFG!! alright... fine... now i changed to PQI ram again and test with team fortress 2. YES!!!! i played 1.5 hours and no errors! so i think the ram is having problem? i restarted my PC and checked BIOS... The timing for PQI is: CAS Latency Time 5 DRAM Ras# to CAS# Delay 5 DRAM Ras# Precharge 5 Precharge delay (CRAS) 16 is this mean 5-5-5-16??? anyway... then i changed to Crucial Ballistix ram again and checked the timing: CAS Latency Time 5 DRAM Ras# to CAS# Delay 7 DRAM Ras# Precharge 7 Precharge delay (CRAS) 24 5-7-7-24?? (wtf? huge different!) so can anyone tell me is the timing or other things of the Crucial Ballistix RAM is having problem? (i think is the timing...)... if is the timing issue then what speed should i change to? please advise! MY SPEC: E8400 3.0GHz Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1066 1GB * 2 (not working fine...) PQI DDR-800 1GB * 2 (it works fine) GA-P35-DS3-R v2.1 (BIOS F11) Inno3D 8800GTS 512MB (the latest driver but forgot the name) 40GB + 500GB HDD Silverstone 750W PSU The RAM is new and i didnt OC my system! they are all running default! OCer.... please help me! thank you!

4th February 2008, 9:44 AM	#2
Menthu_Rae Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney Posts: 6,140	Set the Ballistix RAM voltage to 2.0V Set the timing as 4-4-4-12-2T. Set the RAM speed as DDR2-800 (800MHz). Download memtest86 version 3.3 http://www.memtest86.com/ Burn it to a CD, boot the CD, run memtest for about 3 loops (every test, 3 times). Then post back here. __________________ System Specs: i7 3770K, Noctua NH-U12P SE2, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3-1600, ASUS P8Z77-V Premium, 2048MB Zotac GTX680, ASUS Xonar Essence One, 120GB/240GB Samsung 840 SSDs, 2x 3TB Toshiba HDDs [RAID1], 2x Zalman ZMMFC-1 Plus, Dell U3011 30" LCD, Creative T-40 Series II 2.0, LianLi PC-A71B, 8x Scythe SFF21G, 1kW Silverstone ST1000P. Over 50 Trades.

4th February 2008, 10:36 AM	#7
Slidey Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melb Posts: 847	Crucial Ballistix ram 1066 is rated at 2.2 5-5-5-15 so why wouldnt he run it at that? That would be a safety rating also, if they were frying at 2.2 they wouldnt sell them advertised at that voltage. EDIT: anyhow, do the memtest as suggested and post back the results. __________________ ~ Matt Last edited by Slidey; 4th February 2008 at 10:40 AM.

4th February 2008, 2:40 PM	#13
duck_boy Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Perth Posts: 849	why don't you just set it as 4-4-4-12 DDR2 800 or 5-5-5-15 DDR2 1066 at 2.2v see if they run properly. Remember to put a fan over the ram Because they get hot. IF they fail then RMA. __________________ i7 920@ 4.2GHz 1.39v ,ASUS P6T, 18GB DDR3 @1600MHz, 2408WFP, HD6950, X-FI, 2 x M4 SSD raid 0, 4x WD6400AAKS raid 5, Tough power 850w PSU Succesful traders Buy, Sale: darthpikachu, XST, Dezza Bot, Utetopia , $tealthFiga, stebie, Nick the Knife, tiro_uspsss, AUST_DeVinE, azalin79, Marksman X , pumbertot

5th February 2008, 11:33 AM	#15
Slidey Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Melb Posts: 847	Program is called Orthos. Grab it from here http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm btw, what did you do to get your ram working ? __________________ ~ Matt

4th February 2008, 9:54 AM	#3
davemelb Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Melb Posts: 241	The Ballistix is rated at 2.2v with 5,5,5,15 timings so if you suggest he do otherwise it might fail the test. Try booting with one stick.

4th February 2008, 10:14 AM	#5
davemelb Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Melb Posts: 241	I think he should test the RAM at whichever speed and voltage it is rated to do. If it gets too hot or is damaged from excessive heat, then I believe he has good grounds to file a warranty claim.

5th February 2008, 10:53 AM	#14
tonycfc Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 370	hi i got my pc up and running with no blue screen anymore... can someone provide me a link with the software on how to check the system if it is stable? it is a software which comes up a big green letter "OK" in the middle of the software and it makes the CPU to run on full load? i forgot whats that call... if someone know then please tell me? thanks