The OCAU "film is not dead" club - Page 10

esjay · 27th March 2008, 1:51 PM

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Originally Posted by -spam-

With ours, i can tell it what files i want after it does its thing. Although, im really not liking it at the moment, so im "scanning" my negs with my 20D. It works alright and i get nice sized RAWs to work on in LR

How do you do it? Put them on a lightbox and use a macro lens? Hows the quality using that method?

doigal · 27th March 2008, 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chilloutbuddy

Doigal that's very impressive from a cheap scanner, great gradation and awesome tonality! I guess for such a fast film the grain is to be expected, I wouldn't put it down to the scanning.

Grain is expected (and usually (certainly with this case!) desired) from 3200 film. Its not perfect with finer grained film, but if i ever needed to get a big print done from a slide/neg then i'd get it drum scanned first.

This will suit my needs for essentially anything up to 12x18inches, after that then i'd get it scanned professionally.

djjc · 27th March 2008, 2:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chilloutbuddy

I guess there is no hope for my bung shutter...

Next question, for those of you who scan film:
What kind of files does your scanner produce? Jpegs?
I read somewhere that there are scanners that spit out 16bit raw files.
If that's true I wonder how these files compare to the ones produced by your normal DSLR?

My ole coolscan outputs bmp, jpeg, tiff and some ancient .nef raw format. bmp, tiff and nef can be scanned at 8 or 12 bit, and i believe that later models can do even more bitdepth.

two40 · 27th March 2008, 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chilloutbuddy

I guess there is no hope for my bung shutter...

Next question, for those of you who scan film:
What kind of files does your scanner produce? Jpegs?
I read somewhere that there are scanners that spit out 16bit raw files.
If that's true I wonder how these files compare to the ones produced by your normal DSLR?

tiffs, 2400dpi at around 10-12mb. plenty to work with. don't see the point in going much higher. import these into LR if you want and off you go.

-spam- · 27th March 2008, 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by esjay

How do you do it? Put them on a lightbox and use a macro lens? Hows the quality using that method?

Held it up to a white background on my lcd, had the camera on a tripod with a sigma 105 macro.

The first few i did were dodgy, but im getting better at it

http://www.flickr.com/photos/-spam-/2350945825/sizes/l/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/-spam-/2351814702/sizes/l/

peewee82 · 27th March 2008, 11:32 PM

Lol I've done that before. Usually with slide though and the camera can never seem to record the full range. I did it with a fluoro desk lamp. One of those long flat ones I just turned upside down and covered it with diffused paper, sat the film on top and it worked alright. Fluoros are reknowned for unpredictable colour temperatures though so it wasn't always fun trying to get it right. The biggest downfall for me was the curvature of the film.

It can be done though. Ideally you'd be putting the film on a flat surface backlit by a light with a constant brightness and temperature and put like a sheet of glass over your film to keep it flat. But then if the glass is thick or imperfect or has a colouration like most do...oh just use a scanner.

esjay · 29th March 2008, 3:08 PM

So where is the cheapest place to get film developed these days, does Kmart still do it?

-spam- · 29th March 2008, 3:14 PM

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Originally Posted by esjay

So where is the cheapest place to get film developed these days, does Kmart still do it?

Do you just want C-41? Dont think they will touch b/w and slide.

esjay · 29th March 2008, 5:09 PM

yeah just c41, I just shot a roll of kodak T400

chilloutbuddy · 5th April 2008, 4:13 PM

Just some boring test shots with my Trip35+Kodak Ulrtramax 400

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Some crop in LR and exposure/contrast adjustments.

The camera is ok if you get the focus right, and the lens has a nice, "dreamy" bokeh (photo #8). Only problem is that the camera overexposes by a couple of stops, is it possible that the light cells might have lost sensitivity over the years? Turned out it was an easy fix in LR though, I forgot how film is much more forgiving than digital. Its amazing how much detail is hidden in the highlights, even severely blown, even with the crappy jpegs the lab gave me.

I'd love to shoot some more with it but its a costly habbit. I didn't really do any research, just grabbed some film from BigW and developed at the lab closest to work and it ended up costing me almost a $1 a pop

Oh and I did get asked to stop taking photos that day by some security guard because "the management of the QV doesn't like photos of the building taken, for security reasons". Sure, its reasonable to think that some guy with a 30y.o. camera is just checking for cracks on the wall to plant his C4... This city is pushing me closer to a macro lens every day...

esjay · 5th April 2008, 8:41 PM

Nice chillout, I cant wait until my Canon QL17 gets here next week. I still havent finished the roll in my ricoh yet either, seems with film Im much more fussy about what shots I will take, so I havent even finished a 36 exposure roll yet.

Those shots all look a bit underexposed to me, you might have overcompensated in lr?

chilloutbuddy · 5th April 2008, 9:45 PM

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Originally Posted by esjay

Nice chillout, I cant wait until my Canon QL17 gets here next week. I still havent finished the roll in my ricoh yet either, seems with film Im much more fussy about what shots I will take, so I havent even finished a 36 exposure roll yet.

Those shots all look a bit underexposed to me, you might have overcompensated in lr?

Thanks mate, yeah I probably overcompensated. It was a dark rainy day and this is how I remembered it but I did overdo it. I cant wait to see more film pics posted, hurry & take that Ricoh out for a walk

two40 · 5th April 2008, 9:50 PM

you've done well with the trip

i have two and im scared to shoot with them. just can't be sure about the focus and one of them is a bit iffy with the shutter. works half the time only. i did put a roll in it and half way through it got jammed. haha

doigal · 5th April 2008, 11:43 PM

Really digging #6 above there mate!

some recent ones of mine:

1 - Ilford Delta 3200 Canon A2

2 - Fuji Velvia 50, Trip 35 camera

3 - Fuji Velvia 50, Trip 35 camera

Absolutly shocked and estatic that velvia 50 with a trip worked so well at night.

two40 · 5th April 2008, 11:56 PM

that is a top effort. go the trip

27th March 2008, 11:32 PM	#141
peewee82 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brisbane Posts: 834	Lol I've done that before. Usually with slide though and the camera can never seem to record the full range. I did it with a fluoro desk lamp. One of those long flat ones I just turned upside down and covered it with diffused paper, sat the film on top and it worked alright. Fluoros are reknowned for unpredictable colour temperatures though so it wasn't always fun trying to get it right. The biggest downfall for me was the curvature of the film. It can be done though. Ideally you'd be putting the film on a flat surface backlit by a light with a constant brightness and temperature and put like a sheet of glass over your film to keep it flat. But then if the glass is thick or imperfect or has a colouration like most do...oh just use a scanner. __________________ peterjwilson.com.au flickr dA

5th April 2008, 4:13 PM	#145
chilloutbuddy Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3,114	Just some boring test shots with my Trip35+Kodak Ulrtramax 400 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Some crop in LR and exposure/contrast adjustments. The camera is ok if you get the focus right, and the lens has a nice, "dreamy" bokeh (photo #8). Only problem is that the camera overexposes by a couple of stops, is it possible that the light cells might have lost sensitivity over the years? Turned out it was an easy fix in LR though, I forgot how film is much more forgiving than digital. Its amazing how much detail is hidden in the highlights, even severely blown, even with the crappy jpegs the lab gave me. I'd love to shoot some more with it but its a costly habbit. I didn't really do any research, just grabbed some film from BigW and developed at the lab closest to work and it ended up costing me almost a $1 a pop Oh and I did get asked to stop taking photos that day by some security guard because "the management of the QV doesn't like photos of the building taken, for security reasons". Sure, its reasonable to think that some guy with a 30y.o. camera is just checking for cracks on the wall to plant his C4... This city is pushing me closer to a macro lens every day... __________________ Done OCAU'ing, cya Last edited by chilloutbuddy; 5th April 2008 at 4:17 PM.

5th April 2008, 9:50 PM	#148
two40 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,281	you've done well with the trip i have two and im scared to shoot with them. just can't be sure about the focus and one of them is a bit iffy with the shutter. works half the time only. i did put a roll in it and half way through it got jammed. haha __________________ For Sale Datsun 240Z 1973 V8 500hp Engineered flickr \| blog \| dollar portraits \| itsa FILM thing

5th April 2008, 11:43 PM	#149
doigal Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Isle of Wight, UK Posts: 2,416	Really digging #6 above there mate! some recent ones of mine: 1 - Ilford Delta 3200 Canon A2 2 - Fuji Velvia 50, Trip 35 camera 3 - Fuji Velvia 50, Trip 35 camera Absolutly shocked and estatic that velvia 50 with a trip worked so well at night. __________________ \| The OCAU 'film is not dead' club member#020 \| Flickr Album \| Redbubble Prints FS: 4 rolls of Ilford SFX200 IR 135 Film

5th April 2008, 11:56 PM	#150
two40 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,281	that is a top effort. go the trip __________________ For Sale Datsun 240Z 1973 V8 500hp Engineered flickr \| blog \| dollar portraits \| itsa FILM thing

29th March 2008, 3:08 PM	#142
esjay Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 120	So where is the cheapest place to get film developed these days, does Kmart still do it?

29th March 2008, 5:09 PM	#144
esjay Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 120	yeah just c41, I just shot a roll of kodak T400

5th April 2008, 8:41 PM	#146
esjay Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 120	Nice chillout, I cant wait until my Canon QL17 gets here next week. I still havent finished the roll in my ricoh yet either, seems with film Im much more fussy about what shots I will take, so I havent even finished a 36 exposure roll yet. Those shots all look a bit underexposed to me, you might have overcompensated in lr?