The OCAU "film is not dead" club - Page 7

two40 · 25th February 2008, 3:24 PM

got some goodies today. my minolta srt 101 came up. looks to be fooked. might be able to fix it. still happy though cause i got it cheap and the lenses are really nice.

also got my ebay film today.

10 x Velvia 50
5 x Superia 1600
1 x Superia 400
2 x Tmax 3200
1 x Tmax 400
2 x Tmax 100
3 x Fujicolour 100

what i wanted to ask was some recommendations for what conditions to use some of the more exotic films. i never thought i'd be using the 3200 and 1600 films so what the heck should i use them on...?

peewee82 · 25th February 2008, 4:44 PM

When might you use 800 or higher ISO without flash with your digital? I guess those are the times. Indoors, parties, etc. You're going to get a lot of grain at 3200. You might not want to hear this but the Tmax 3200's film sensitivity is actually closer to 800. They're made to allow for pushing up to 3200 though. You will still notice a lot of grain at 3200 with that film, but the detail and contrast are handled well as opposed to pushing a film quoted at 800 speed up to 3200.

Velvia 50 is geared towards daytime bright sunshine. I use Tmax 400 or Ilford HP5+ 400 for most general b&w shooting, whereas Tmax 100 is for prestine sharpness and resolution and I personally use it for landscape.

doigal · 25th February 2008, 4:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gm:fx

i never thought i'd be using the 3200 and 1600 films so what the heck should i use them on...?

Sweet collection of film there mate.

Tmax 3200 screams film noir looks:

Iscran · 25th February 2008, 5:10 PM

Gear:
Voigtlander Bessa R4A
Zorki Fed 5b + 53mm f2.8
Trip 35
Box Brownie.
CS 21mm f4 pancake M mount.
speedlite 199A flash
Minolta IV-F Auto Light Meter
Gossen Luna Pro SBC Light Meter
Nikon Coolscan V ED
Some cable releases.

Film
Velvia 100
Superia 100
Fuji 64T

onrelas · 11th March 2008, 10:31 PM

Just got this little beast for a few bucks with original case and manual. Its in close to perfect condition and seems to work flawlessly.
It just looks so damn cool too, and a few people have already commented on it. It is also probably one of the best feeling cameras i've ever held. I dont know why, its just a simple little camera, but i swear the ergonomics of it put many modern cameras to shame.
You definately dont want to be in a rush when using the onboard light meter though, you need to rely on some sort of black magic to decipher it all.
For those wondering its a Voigtlander Vito BL which begun being built in 1956, mine is from 1957 though. Over 50 years old and still almost looks new, im impressed.

still needs bit of a clean

Alpha_7 · 12th March 2008, 8:18 AM

onrelas - Very nice Viogtlander can I ask where you picked it up from ? Couldn't tell it was 50+ years old!

ehor · 12th March 2008, 8:24 AM

Nice one.

I just got my Ricoh 500 in the post yesterday. No meter in it so I'll have to dig out the old EV number table.

Can't wait to get a few rolls through it.

I also have a Ricoh 500 G on the way too.

ehor · 12th March 2008, 8:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha_7

onrelas - Very nice Viogtlander can I ask where you picked it up from ? Couldn't tell it was 50+ years old!

Try ebay

onrelas · 12th March 2008, 3:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha_7

onrelas - Very nice Viogtlander can I ask where you picked it up from ?

Hi mate, this one i got from eBay. I was surprised how cheap it was, as there are ones on there now going for around $20. I can never figure out eBay, sometimes you'll have two identical items finishing within a day or two of eachother but one will go for double the price of the other, eventhough theres no difference between them.
The seller i bought this camera from had another Voigtlander listed that i regret not bidding on now, as im sure it would of been it equally top condition. Oh well, i guess its good to quit whilst you're ahead.
Oh, for those people in Sydney, theres a guy on www.gumtree.com.au selling off alot of his camera collection. He is located in Auburn and seemed like a decent guy when i spoke to him via email. He invited me to come out and see if i wanted to buy any of his gear, but i havent had the time lately. He seems to have a massive range of stuff available.

ehor · 13th March 2008, 10:15 AM

Here's my Ricoh 500 rangefinder

Bottom winder, 45mm f/2.8 lens, no metering, 35mm film.

MalcomX · 17th March 2008, 11:41 AM

*registers interest*

Shoot pretty much only slide film (aside from wildlife/macro were I use both slide and neg films), mostly velvia 50/100, but also some higher speed sensia.
Use canon and pentax bodies, also have a polaroid camera I use on occassion.

Sir poppin · 23rd March 2008, 10:06 PM

Decided I should give this thread a bit of love with some inane rambling and questions to prove that I grew up in a digital world.

Anyway, I was having a bit of a chat with my stepdad today about film and stuff, and he mentioned slide film. I'd heard of it before, but didn't really associate it with the infamously boring 'slide nights' so I was quite happy when I made the connection! He showed me the multitude of the little yellow topped kodak boxes he had, and I have to say the quality and colours are really awesome. However, apparently when he was doing it, you'd buy the film with the price of the developing factored in so that you could send off the reel and get back the aformented cool yellow topped boxes with slides intact!

I've had a look around online, and noticed that there's a bit of slide film on ebay (nowhere near the amount of 35mm stuff though), as well as some more stuff online. They all seem to be reasonably priced, but I'm guessing that you'd have to pay for developing yourself now. My question is, would there still be places that'd develop it or do people that want to use it develop themselves? From what my stepdad said, it seems like a fairly specialist type of thing to have done, he wasn't sure if anyone would bother doing it comercially any more. He also wasn't sure about printing, having never had it done. I guess, at worst, I'll always be able to scan the slides and then send them off to be printed at somewhere like snapfish, but I'm curious either way. Also, to anyone that's done this before, I'd be very interested in hearing the prices you payed for development and printing!

I also recently bought my first rangefinder off ebay for the pricely sum of $8.50. It's an Olympus 35RC, and it's considerably grubbier than my Trip 35, but oh well. The viewfinder and rangefinder window bit were a bit dirty, but I gave them a bit of a clean and they seem a bit better now. Focusing is still kinda hard, I think because the inside components are a bit dirty but I'm not brave enough to clean them. I got a suggestion to cover the viewfinder with a bit of blank negative to darken the viewfinder and make it a bit easier to focus so I might try that.

The camera also didn't come with a battery, so it looks like I'll have to invest in a zinc air replacement. Most of the sites that do them are based in the US, so I was wondering if anyone knew of someone local that distributes, cause damnit I wanna take pictures now!

Oh and here's a picture of the 35RC taken in all it's glory (right before my dSLR decided to stop taking pictures too, but that's another story - it's probably just jealous that I'm using film

):

So yes, this post is a bit longer than I intended for it to be and it kinda reads like a live journal entry so I'm sorry for that, but I feel so trendy and old school using film, plus the process is just so much more rewarding!

doigal · 23rd March 2008, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir poppin

I've had a look around online, and noticed that there's a bit of slide film on ebay (nowhere near the amount of 35mm stuff though), as well as some more stuff online. They all seem to be reasonably priced, but I'm guessing that you'd have to pay for developing yourself now. My question is, would there still be places that'd develop it or do people that want to use it develop themselves? From what my stepdad said, it seems like a fairly specialist type of thing to have done, he wasn't sure if anyone would bother doing it comercially any more. He also wasn't sure about printing, having never had it done. I guess, at worst, I'll always be able to scan the slides and then send them off to be printed at somewhere like snapfish, but I'm curious either way. Also, to anyone that's done this before, I'd be very interested in hearing the prices you payed for development and printing!

Velvia 50 is where its at for vivid colours on slide film. What you need is a good shop that will do E6 processing (slides) on site for you that you can trust. Generally in melbourne it seems to be about $20 to get a roll of slides developed and mounted, scanning/printing extra.

Katunka89 · 23rd March 2008, 11:07 PM

Slides generally use the E6 process, which is very time and temperature dependent, really worth getting it done at a lab. There should be a lab that does it in any capital city.

Velvia can be nice for landscapes, but it can also look lurid when used for portraits for example. It's definitely worth trying, but it's also worth looking into some other slide films as well.

onrelas · 23rd March 2008, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir poppin

I also recently bought my first rangefinder off ebay for the pricely sum of $8.50. It's an Olympus 35RC, and it's considerably grubbier than my Trip 35, but oh well. The viewfinder and rangefinder window bit were a bit dirty, but I gave them a bit of a clean and they seem a bit better now. Focusing is still kinda hard, I think because the inside components are a bit dirty but I'm not brave enough to clean them. I got a suggestion to cover the viewfinder with a bit of blank negative to darken the viewfinder and make it a bit easier to focus so I might try that.

The camera also didn't come with a battery, so it looks like I'll have to invest in a zinc air replacement. Most of the sites that do them are based in the US, so I was wondering if anyone knew of someone local that distributes, cause damnit I wanna take pictures now!

Ahh, nice RC

and damn good price too. I cant beleive i missed it

Hopefully you get it cleaned up nicely, it's definately worth getting the viewfinder clean, should help you see the RF patch nicely too. But yeah, you can also try the black tape trick to improve the contrast (like you already mentioned) See this link here for instructions

Check this link out for mercury battery replacement.
Ends up so much cheaper and is very easy too. You can get the 675 size zinc air hearing aid batteries in most chemists, i got some last week.

Hope i've helped you a bit..
have fun

25th February 2008, 3:24 PM	#91
two40 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,281	got some goodies today. my minolta srt 101 came up. looks to be fooked. might be able to fix it. still happy though cause i got it cheap and the lenses are really nice. also got my ebay film today. 10 x Velvia 50 5 x Superia 1600 1 x Superia 400 2 x Tmax 3200 1 x Tmax 400 2 x Tmax 100 3 x Fujicolour 100 what i wanted to ask was some recommendations for what conditions to use some of the more exotic films. i never thought i'd be using the 3200 and 1600 films so what the heck should i use them on...? __________________ For Sale Datsun 240Z 1973 V8 500hp Engineered flickr \| blog \| dollar portraits \| itsa FILM thing

25th February 2008, 4:44 PM	#92
peewee82 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brisbane Posts: 834	When might you use 800 or higher ISO without flash with your digital? I guess those are the times. Indoors, parties, etc. You're going to get a lot of grain at 3200. You might not want to hear this but the Tmax 3200's film sensitivity is actually closer to 800. They're made to allow for pushing up to 3200 though. You will still notice a lot of grain at 3200 with that film, but the detail and contrast are handled well as opposed to pushing a film quoted at 800 speed up to 3200. Velvia 50 is geared towards daytime bright sunshine. I use Tmax 400 or Ilford HP5+ 400 for most general b&w shooting, whereas Tmax 100 is for prestine sharpness and resolution and I personally use it for landscape. __________________ peterjwilson.com.au flickr dA

25th February 2008, 5:10 PM	#94
Iscran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: World Traveller Posts: 637	Gear: Voigtlander Bessa R4A Zorki Fed 5b + 53mm f2.8 Trip 35 Box Brownie. CS 21mm f4 pancake M mount. speedlite 199A flash Minolta IV-F Auto Light Meter Gossen Luna Pro SBC Light Meter Nikon Coolscan V ED Some cable releases. Film Velvia 100 Superia 100 Fuji 64T __________________ Back from the dead, anyone with a bad case of Necrophilia? Last edited by Iscran; 30th April 2008 at 8:21 PM.

11th March 2008, 10:31 PM	#95
onrelas Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 670	Just got this little beast for a few bucks with original case and manual. Its in close to perfect condition and seems to work flawlessly. It just looks so damn cool too, and a few people have already commented on it. It is also probably one of the best feeling cameras i've ever held. I dont know why, its just a simple little camera, but i swear the ergonomics of it put many modern cameras to shame. You definately dont want to be in a rush when using the onboard light meter though, you need to rely on some sort of black magic to decipher it all. For those wondering its a Voigtlander Vito BL which begun being built in 1956, mine is from 1957 though. Over 50 years old and still almost looks new, im impressed. still needs bit of a clean __________________ ...Yet another Photo/Camera Blog... \| The OCAU 'film is not dead' club member#001 \|

17th March 2008, 11:41 AM	#101
MalcomX Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 246	registers interest Shoot pretty much only slide film (aside from wildlife/macro were I use both slide and neg films), mostly velvia 50/100, but also some higher speed sensia. Use canon and pentax bodies, also have a polaroid camera I use on occassion. __________________ http://malcomx.deviantart.com \| The OCAU 'film is not dead' club member \|

12th March 2008, 8:18 AM	#96
Alpha_7 Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12	onrelas - Very nice Viogtlander can I ask where you picked it up from ? Couldn't tell it was 50+ years old!

12th March 2008, 8:24 AM	#97
ehor Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ftp://2114.syd.nsw.au Posts: 1,890	Nice one. I just got my Ricoh 500 in the post yesterday. No meter in it so I'll have to dig out the old EV number table. Can't wait to get a few rolls through it. I also have a Ricoh 500 G on the way too.

13th March 2008, 10:15 AM	#100
ehor Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ftp://2114.syd.nsw.au Posts: 1,890	Here's my Ricoh 500 rangefinder Bottom winder, 45mm f/2.8 lens, no metering, 35mm film.

23rd March 2008, 10:06 PM	#102
Sir poppin Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,140	Decided I should give this thread a bit of love with some inane rambling and questions to prove that I grew up in a digital world. Anyway, I was having a bit of a chat with my stepdad today about film and stuff, and he mentioned slide film. I'd heard of it before, but didn't really associate it with the infamously boring 'slide nights' so I was quite happy when I made the connection! He showed me the multitude of the little yellow topped kodak boxes he had, and I have to say the quality and colours are really awesome. However, apparently when he was doing it, you'd buy the film with the price of the developing factored in so that you could send off the reel and get back the aformented cool yellow topped boxes with slides intact! I've had a look around online, and noticed that there's a bit of slide film on ebay (nowhere near the amount of 35mm stuff though), as well as some more stuff online. They all seem to be reasonably priced, but I'm guessing that you'd have to pay for developing yourself now. My question is, would there still be places that'd develop it or do people that want to use it develop themselves? From what my stepdad said, it seems like a fairly specialist type of thing to have done, he wasn't sure if anyone would bother doing it comercially any more. He also wasn't sure about printing, having never had it done. I guess, at worst, I'll always be able to scan the slides and then send them off to be printed at somewhere like snapfish, but I'm curious either way. Also, to anyone that's done this before, I'd be very interested in hearing the prices you payed for development and printing! I also recently bought my first rangefinder off ebay for the pricely sum of $8.50. It's an Olympus 35RC, and it's considerably grubbier than my Trip 35, but oh well. The viewfinder and rangefinder window bit were a bit dirty, but I gave them a bit of a clean and they seem a bit better now. Focusing is still kinda hard, I think because the inside components are a bit dirty but I'm not brave enough to clean them. I got a suggestion to cover the viewfinder with a bit of blank negative to darken the viewfinder and make it a bit easier to focus so I might try that. The camera also didn't come with a battery, so it looks like I'll have to invest in a zinc air replacement. Most of the sites that do them are based in the US, so I was wondering if anyone knew of someone local that distributes, cause damnit I wanna take pictures now! Oh and here's a picture of the 35RC taken in all it's glory (right before my dSLR decided to stop taking pictures too, but that's another story - it's probably just jealous that I'm using film ): So yes, this post is a bit longer than I intended for it to be and it kinda reads like a live journal entry so I'm sorry for that, but I feel so trendy and old school using film, plus the process is just so much more rewarding!

23rd March 2008, 11:07 PM	#104
Katunka89 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perth Posts: 824	Slides generally use the E6 process, which is very time and temperature dependent, really worth getting it done at a lab. There should be a lab that does it in any capital city. Velvia can be nice for landscapes, but it can also look lurid when used for portraits for example. It's definitely worth trying, but it's also worth looking into some other slide films as well.