WinSMP V5.91 to V5.92 Dual Instance Upgrade Guide

mitsimonsta · 26th March 2008, 11:42 PM

All this has been pretty much deprecated by the new clients.... please see the new mega-massive client setup guide sticky thing.

Slade · 27th March 2008, 6:09 AM

Nice post Mitsi. This should help a lot of peope out.
I've swapped over one of my machines, but not the other. I just need to get in and change it.

Hope you got some sleep

markp · 27th March 2008, 12:16 PM

Excellent work Mitsi.. Thanks.

mitsimonsta · 27th March 2008, 1:13 PM

Thanks guys.

I have no issues with people running dual instances on this new client at all. It is very, very stable.

I did get one FILE_IO_ERROR as I was starting up for the first time, but that was firewall exceptions related.

Those people who have masses of C2D's awaiting a stable client - the time to swap them over to this new MPI library and the SMP client is right now.

Let's lift our output, get us over 1 Million ppd and lets give the [S]oft types a bit of a scare.

Fatmantan · 27th March 2008, 1:37 PM

I'm having no problems running the 5.91

What improvements does this updated one have?

ie. Should i change over if i dont have any problems?

jardeath · 27th March 2008, 2:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitsimonsta

Those people who have masses of C2D's awaiting a stable client - the time to swap them over to this new MPI library and the SMP client is right now.

Rubberband?

Cdr Zero · 27th March 2008, 3:08 PM

Well there's not too many others with "masses of C2D's"!

It'd be a heck of a boost in points though...

mitsimonsta · 27th March 2008, 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatmantan

I'm having no problems running the 5.91

You are a lucky guy..... I have a feeling that heavily OC'd machines have more problems than mildly OC'ed machines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatmantan

What improvements does this updated one have?

Different MPI library - MPICH2 has been swapped for DeinoMPI. The FahCore_A1.exe is also slightly different.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatmantan

ie. Should i change over if i dont have any problems?

The new client has less output due to a different library. If you have no problems the old adage applies - 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'

Quote:

Originally Posted by jardeath

Rubberband?

Yes, I had the latex one in mind. There are a few others that had 10-20 office/school machines and would install it as a service if the client was stable.

flatout · 27th March 2008, 6:34 PM

Just a heads up on my installs. Has anyone else seen this issue.

I have 2 Q6600 running the new clients. When i reset a wired switch in my network to clear a prob , i found that the 4 instances on the Quads on that switch immediately reset themselves.

Each instance restarted & as far as i can tell no work was lost.
It was a bit hard to tell because 2 instances were just starting up & on 0% but the other 2 instances recovered ok

Another Quad on that switch running Ubuntu never had any issues.

Go Figure.

flatout

Teddy2 · 27th March 2008, 6:44 PM

Well I tried to install tonite & it refused to start...

Launch directory: C:\SMP Folding
Executable: C:\SMP Folding\fah.exe
Arguments: -verbosity 9 -forceasm

Warning:
By using the -forceasm flag, you are overriding
safeguards in the program. If you did not intend to
do this, please restart the program without -forceasm.
If work units are not completing fully (and particularly
if your machine is overclocked), then please discontinue
use of the flag.

[08:39:59] - Ask before connecting: No
[08:39:59] - User name: Teddy2(OCAU) (Team 24)
[08:39:59] - User ID: 47BA6AF263EBB6AC
[08:39:59] - Machine ID: 1
[08:39:59]
[08:39:59] Loaded queue successfully.
[08:39:59]
[08:39:59] - Autosending finished units...
[08:39:59] + Processing work unit
[08:39:59] Trying to send all finished work units
[08:39:59] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[08:39:59] + No unsent completed units remaining.
[08:39:59] - Autosend completed
[08:39:59] Core found.
[08:39:59] Working on Unit 01 [March 27 08:39:59]
[08:39:59] + Working ...
[08:39:59] - Calling 'mpiexec -channel shm -env MPICH_USE_SMP_OPTIMIZATIONS 1 -np 4 FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -checkpoint 3 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 2848 -version 592'

[08:40:03] CoreStatus = 63 (99)
[08:40:03] + Error starting Folding@Home core or unexpected system termination of core.
[08:40:08]
[08:40:08] + Processing work unit
[08:40:08] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[08:40:08] Core found.
[08:40:08] Working on Unit 01 [March 27 08:40:08]
[08:40:08] + Working ...
[08:40:08] - Calling 'mpiexec -channel shm -env MPICH_USE_SMP_OPTIMIZATIONS 1 -np 4 FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -checkpoint 3 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 2848 -version 592'

[08:40:12] CoreStatus = 63 (99)
[08:40:12] + Error starting Folding@Home core or unexpected system termination of core.
[08:40:17]
[08:40:17] + Processing work unit
[08:40:17] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[08:40:17] Core found.
[08:40:17] Working on Unit 01 [March 27 08:40:17]
[08:40:17] + Working ...
[08:40:17] - Calling 'mpiexec -channel shm -env MPICH_USE_SMP_OPTIMIZATIONS 1 -np 4 FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -checkpoint 3 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 2848 -version 592'

[08:40:21] CoreStatus = 63 (99)
[08:40:21] + Error starting Folding@Home core or unexpected system termination of core.
[08:40:21] - Attempting to download new core...
[08:40:21] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
[08:40:21] Downloading core (/~pande/Win32/x86//Core_a1.fah from www.stanford.edu)
[08:40:22] Initial: AFDE; + 10240 bytes downloaded
[08:40:23] Initial: AD21; + 20480 bytes downloaded
[08:40:23] Initial: CC38; + 30720 bytes downloaded

contd

[08:40:42] Initial: 34A0; + 778240 bytes downloaded
[08:40:42] Initial: DD6C; + 788480 bytes downloaded
[08:40:42] Initial: D2E9; + 789667 bytes downloaded
[08:40:42] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[08:40:42] Signature is VALID
[08:40:42]
[08:40:42] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[08:40:42] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[08:40:42] + Core successfully engaged
[08:40:47]
[08:40:47] + Processing work unit
[08:40:47] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[08:40:47] Core found.
[08:40:47] Working on Unit 01 [March 27 08:40:47]
[08:40:47] + Working ...
[08:40:47] - Calling 'mpiexec -channel shm -env MPICH_USE_SMP_OPTIMIZATIONS 1 -np 4 FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -checkpoint 3 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 2848 -version 592'

[08:40:52] CoreStatus = 63 (99)
[08:40:52] + Error starting Folding@Home core or unexpected system termination of core.

I stopped it at this stage scratching my head...

Teddy

Teddy2 · 27th March 2008, 7:13 PM

Only way to fix it full reinstall of the client, I don't think it like starting off with the old proteins

So I have 2 new fresh p2653's to fold, turned off that stupid Windows firewall popups....

Teddy

flatout · 27th March 2008, 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teddy2

So I have 2 new fresh p2653's to fold, turned off that stupid Windows firewall popups....

Teddy

Zone alarm caused me some File_Io_Error's until i disabled it. I installed a diff firewall & no probs yet.

flatout

BloodDonor · 4th April 2008, 6:06 PM

should i, on a 2 core CPU, have 4x FahCore_a1.exe running, as well as 4x DeinoPM.exe ? just wanted to make sure its not running twice

Teddy2 · 4th April 2008, 6:16 PM

Yep that looks OK to me..

I have the same on a Dual Core CPU. (E6600)

Teddy

BloodDonor · 4th April 2008, 7:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teddy2

Yep that looks OK to me..

I have the same on a Dual Core CPU. (E6600)

Teddy

phew was worried id screwed the upgrade up and it was doing it twice

26th March 2008, 11:42 PM	#1
mitsimonsta Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Starfleet HQ, 2850 Posts: 7,175	Windows SMP V6.22 Install Guide (editing it now... hold on) All this has been pretty much deprecated by the new clients.... please see the new mega-massive client setup guide sticky thing. __________________ Fold harder! OCAU Folding Hall of Fame Inductee \| Addicted to Folding Club #111 \| OCAU's Number 1 Folding Producer - PROOF 13 Million F@H Points for OCAU \| 425K PPW Club \| Folding Stats \| 4Sale/Wanted/Trades List **Nothing in the above post is financial advice, please Do Your Own Research*** Last edited by mitsimonsta; 3rd August 2008 at 11:04 PM.

27th March 2008, 6:09 AM	#2
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27th March 2008, 12:16 PM	#3
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27th March 2008, 1:13 PM	#4
mitsimonsta Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Starfleet HQ, 2850 Posts: 7,175	Thanks guys. I have no issues with people running dual instances on this new client at all. It is very, very stable. I did get one FILE_IO_ERROR as I was starting up for the first time, but that was firewall exceptions related. Those people who have masses of C2D's awaiting a stable client - the time to swap them over to this new MPI library and the SMP client is right now. Let's lift our output, get us over 1 Million ppd and lets give the [S]oft types a bit of a scare. __________________ Fold harder! OCAU Folding Hall of Fame Inductee \| Addicted to Folding Club #111 \| OCAU's Number 1 Folding Producer - PROOF 13 Million F@H Points for OCAU \| 425K PPW Club \| Folding Stats \| 4Sale/Wanted/Trades List **Nothing in the above post is financial advice, please Do Your Own Research***

27th March 2008, 1:37 PM	#5
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27th March 2008, 3:08 PM	#7
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27th March 2008, 6:34 PM	#9
flatout Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Brisvegas...... Southside Posts: 879	Just a heads up on my installs. Has anyone else seen this issue. I have 2 Q6600 running the new clients. When i reset a wired switch in my network to clear a prob , i found that the 4 instances on the Quads on that switch immediately reset themselves. Each instance restarted & as far as i can tell no work was lost. It was a bit hard to tell because 2 instances were just starting up & on 0% but the other 2 instances recovered ok Another Quad on that switch running Ubuntu never had any issues. Go Figure. flatout Last edited by flatout; 27th March 2008 at 6:35 PM. Reason: grandma

27th March 2008, 6:44 PM	#10
Teddy2 Folding, Folding, Folding Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Canberra ACT 450000 Club Posts: 9,608	Well I tried to install tonite & it refused to start... Launch directory: C:\SMP Folding Executable: C:\SMP Folding\fah.exe Arguments: -verbosity 9 -forceasm Warning: By using the -forceasm flag, you are overriding safeguards in the program. If you did not intend to do this, please restart the program without -forceasm. If work units are not completing fully (and particularly if your machine is overclocked), then please discontinue use of the flag. [08:39:59] - Ask before connecting: No [08:39:59] - User name: Teddy2(OCAU) (Team 24) [08:39:59] - User ID: 47BA6AF263EBB6AC [08:39:59] - Machine ID: 1 [08:39:59] [08:39:59] Loaded queue successfully. [08:39:59] [08:39:59] - Autosending finished units... [08:39:59] + Processing work unit [08:39:59] Trying to send all finished work units [08:39:59] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe [08:39:59] + No unsent completed units remaining. [08:39:59] - Autosend completed [08:39:59] Core found. [08:39:59] Working on Unit 01 [March 27 08:39:59] [08:39:59] + Working ... [08:39:59] - Calling 'mpiexec -channel shm -env MPICH_USE_SMP_OPTIMIZATIONS 1 -np 4 FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -checkpoint 3 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 2848 -version 592' [08:40:03] CoreStatus = 63 (99) [08:40:03] + Error starting Folding@Home core or unexpected system termination of core. [08:40:08] [08:40:08] + Processing work unit [08:40:08] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe [08:40:08] Core found. [08:40:08] Working on Unit 01 [March 27 08:40:08] [08:40:08] + Working ... [08:40:08] - Calling 'mpiexec -channel shm -env MPICH_USE_SMP_OPTIMIZATIONS 1 -np 4 FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -checkpoint 3 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 2848 -version 592' [08:40:12] CoreStatus = 63 (99) [08:40:12] + Error starting Folding@Home core or unexpected system termination of core. [08:40:17] [08:40:17] + Processing work unit [08:40:17] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe [08:40:17] Core found. [08:40:17] Working on Unit 01 [March 27 08:40:17] [08:40:17] + Working ... [08:40:17] - Calling 'mpiexec -channel shm -env MPICH_USE_SMP_OPTIMIZATIONS 1 -np 4 FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -checkpoint 3 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 2848 -version 592' [08:40:21] CoreStatus = 63 (99) [08:40:21] + Error starting Folding@Home core or unexpected system termination of core. [08:40:21] - Attempting to download new core... [08:40:21] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe [08:40:21] Downloading core (/~pande/Win32/x86//Core_a1.fah from www.stanford.edu) [08:40:22] Initial: AFDE; + 10240 bytes downloaded [08:40:23] Initial: AD21; + 20480 bytes downloaded [08:40:23] Initial: CC38; + 30720 bytes downloaded contd [08:40:42] Initial: 34A0; + 778240 bytes downloaded [08:40:42] Initial: DD6C; + 788480 bytes downloaded [08:40:42] Initial: D2E9; + 789667 bytes downloaded [08:40:42] Verifying core Core_a1.fah... [08:40:42] Signature is VALID [08:40:42] [08:40:42] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe [08:40:42] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully [08:40:42] + Core successfully engaged [08:40:47] [08:40:47] + Processing work unit [08:40:47] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe [08:40:47] Core found. [08:40:47] Working on Unit 01 [March 27 08:40:47] [08:40:47] + Working ... [08:40:47] - Calling 'mpiexec -channel shm -env MPICH_USE_SMP_OPTIMIZATIONS 1 -np 4 FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -checkpoint 3 -forceasm -verbose -lifeline 2848 -version 592' [08:40:52] CoreStatus = 63 (99) [08:40:52] + Error starting Folding@Home core or unexpected system termination of core. I stopped it at this stage scratching my head... Teddy __________________ Monash ACT weather Addicted to Folding Club #62 Folding since August 2001 Folding@Home 450k Club Folding@Home 40000000 Points Milestone

27th March 2008, 7:13 PM	#11
Teddy2 Folding, Folding, Folding Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Canberra ACT 450000 Club Posts: 9,608	Only way to fix it full reinstall of the client, I don't think it like starting off with the old proteins So I have 2 new fresh p2653's to fold, turned off that stupid Windows firewall popups.... Teddy __________________ Monash ACT weather Addicted to Folding Club #62 Folding since August 2001 Folding@Home 450k Club Folding@Home 40000000 Points Milestone

4th April 2008, 6:06 PM	#13
BloodDonor Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Invercargill NZ Posts: 1,452	should i, on a 2 core CPU, have 4x FahCore_a1.exe running, as well as 4x DeinoPM.exe ? just wanted to make sure its not running twice __________________ You cant call yaself a real overclocker unless youve flashed ya BIOS more than once in 10 minutes e8400 @4Ghz w/ Ultra 120 eXtreme \| Asus P5Q-Pro \| 8GB OCZ DDR2 \| XFX HD 4870 GB with T-Rad² \| 2x 1TB + 1.5TB Storage \| OCZ 700w PSU \| Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit SMP Folding@Home Ubuntu Guide - Im folding for OCAU... are YOU?

4th April 2008, 6:16 PM	#14
Teddy2 Folding, Folding, Folding Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Canberra ACT 450000 Club Posts: 9,608	Yep that looks OK to me.. I have the same on a Dual Core CPU. (E6600) Teddy __________________ Monash ACT weather Addicted to Folding Club #62 Folding since August 2001 Folding@Home 450k Club Folding@Home 40000000 Points Milestone