Which HD Plasma?

[fancourt]

Originally Posted by yanman

um.. sorry but I have to totally disagree with that. you can't seriously try and claim that 1080/50i movies (DVB-T, DVB-S etc) will look as good as the 1080p versions (studio mastered DVHS, HD-DVD and Bluray). Apart from the fact that there is information you cannot reclaim through deinterlacing, all 1080i sources are far inferior from a mastering quality perspective.

(Offtopic, sorry but redav has made a point and I want to expand on it)

Tell me then, what is used as a studio master to record said sources before they are encoded to Bluray? This is a baited question.

[scottath]

Don't think they are out yet [but we just got ours] the Samsung PS50A550
http://www.samsung.com/au/consumer/d...PS50A550S1FXXY

No idea about retail - just got ours in the first shipment to Australia for wholesale+tax+delivery through work.....dont ask the price but i'll say this - sub $3000 wholesale

[Aequitas]

Originally Posted by ssar

Although one thing that it (appears to be) missing is a Disc Eject button on the remote - I would have thought these are standard these days - why would they not put one on it?

Can i ask why ppl seem to think this is nessesary? i mean what do you need it for? if you eject a disc you are doing so to get the disc out right? you have to be at the unit to take it out, why would you not just use the on unit eject button? would just be a waste of space on the remote to have a useless button like eject.

[yanman]

Originally Posted by fancourt

(Offtopic, sorry but redav has made a point and I want to expand on it)

Tell me then, what is used as a studio master to record said sources before they are encoded to Bluray? This is a baited question.

Until recently they were on film, 35mm, 70mm for the really good quality ones (Apocalypse Now was in 70mm for example). These have been scanned in at 2K or 4K formats and cleaned up to provide the material to produce the re-released movies as Blurays.

Now studios use much higher resolution digital formats to record in, so even the 1920x1080 Blurays are down-scaled from the originals.

see here for some info

[fancourt]

Originally Posted by yanman

see here for some info

Meh, you missed my point.
Video masters ATM are recorded on HDCAM-SR. You cannot use the digital files used for the theatrical projection to make video masters.

HDCAM-SR cannot record a true progressive format, however it dose not need to. You can take a progressive signal, interlace it and then de-interlace back to progressive with ZERO quality loss.

[yanman]

Originally Posted by fancourt

Meh, you missed my point.
Video masters ATM are recorded on HDCAM-SR. You cannot use the digital files used for the theatrical projection to make video masters.[/B]

Isn't that just for broadcast TV? The most common format for films in 2007 was 35mm film still, which is scanned to 2K or 4K and used to master the Blu-ray. i.e. Blade Runner

[connico]

I got the samsung, truly excellent display. Only thing is i regret it as my electricity bill went up... like 100 bucks..

[fancourt]

This will be my last reply as its getting too much off topic.
I've seen more motion picture film than you can poke a stick at, and you are correct, most feature films are shot super 35. Most are scanned at 2k and delivered at 1828x1556 for film burn.
Then a Universal video master is created at 23.976PsF which is used for video dups from there on in. This is generally recorded onto a SR tape. That is what will be used as a master for your Bluray etc.
I can continue this over PM as to not derail this thread anymore.
Sorry OP.

[bevanbraves]

Sorry if this is a thread hi-jack but i just started looking at plasmas. Spoke to a salesman (yikes!) today and came away with some a question. Thought i'd post it here, if its too much i can start a new thread ...

1) i live in rural australia with no plans to go bluray yet. So will a 768 tv be just as good to me as a full HD 1080? Only because i dont get any HD tv transmission/programs and i have no plans to get a bluray set in the next few years. Your thoughts?

As an aside, i dont have a tuner box either because i borrowed a mates to see what difference it made but couldnt get any tunign to work, likely due to a nearby hill.

[EazyduzIt]

Originally Posted by bevanbraves

1) i live in rural australia with no plans to go bluray yet. So will a 768 tv be just as good to me as a full HD 1080? Only because i dont get any HD tv transmission/programs and i have no plans to get a bluray set in the next few years. Your thoughts?

What size panel? You will be fine with a 768p panel even if/when you do decide to buy Blu-Ray player. I've got a 50" Pio XDA and Blu-Ray movies display beautifully. I don't think you can go wrong with Samsung/Panasonic plasmas. They are cheap and will do the job.

As an aside - I've seen LG's new panels. Not sure if they are Plasma but I don't know what idiot thought to include a glory hole on these displays.

[ssar]

Originally Posted by bevanbraves

i live in rural australia with no plans to go bluray yet. So will a 768 tv be just as good to me as a full HD 1080? Only because i dont get any HD tv transmission/programs and i have no plans to get a bluray set in the next few years. Your thoughts?

I very nearly went with 768p in a 50" / 127cm Plasma unit, to not only save several hundred $ but because the infrequent and then only slight improvement in overall detail etc.

If you can get a similar-specced (in all other aspects), same size 768p unit compared to a 1080p unit for $1000 less or even $900, I'd go with that if I were you.

Originally Posted by Aequitas

Can i ask why ppl seem to think this is nessesary? i mean what do you need it for? if you eject a disc you are doing so to get the disc out right? you have to be at the unit to take it out, why would you not just use the on unit eject button? would just be a waste of space on the remote to have a useless button like eject.

Convenience.

Pre-eject the disc and then get up, choose a replacement or the empty case etc. have the case in your hand then simply go over and grab the disc out of the tray with one hand and put it straight into the case in the other nice and promptly.

Or pre-insert the disk but leave the tray out and carry on watching/whatever with your unit whilst kicking back relaxing in your lounge until you are ready for the DVD/disc mode to take over upon detection of the newly inserted disc, which is also sometimes handy.

Or another person might be going to get up, or passing by, you can get them to more easily take out/replace the disc etc. if you press eject on your remote.

Prevent some people from damaging the tray after inserting a new disc and pushing on the tray too hard/too much angle, cuz you can say to them "just put the disc in, I'll insert the tray via remote from here, thanks".

[Aequitas]

Originally Posted by ssar

Convenience.

Pre-eject the disc and then get up, choose a replacement or the empty case etc. have the case in your hand then simply go over and grab the disc out of the tray with one hand and put it straight into the case in the other nice and promptly.

Or pre-insert the disk but leave the tray out and carry on watching/whatever with your unit whilst kicking back relaxing in your lounge until you are ready for the DVD/disc mode to take over upon detection of the newly inserted disc, which is also sometimes handy.

Or another person might be going to get up, or passing by, you can get them to more easily take out/replace the disc etc. if you press eject on your remote.

Prevent some people from damaging the tray after inserting a new disc and pushing on the tray too hard/too much angle, cuz you can say to them "just put the disc in, I'll insert the tray via remote from here, thanks".

WAHAHA are you serious? it takes less then 1 sec on most drives for it to eject. that is the lazy not convenient, lol. There is no real reason for the button thats why its not there.

[Zee]

I'd hang out for the 8 series pana 50 inch. the 42 inch models I have installed over the last few weeks have looked fantastic, and did not exhibit the "juddering" motion the 7 series seems to suffer from.


Z..

[bevanbraves]

Originally Posted by EazyduzIt

What size panel? You will be fine with a 768p panel even if/when you do decide to buy Blu-Ray player. I've got a 50" Pio XDA and Blu-Ray movies display beautifully. I don't think you can go wrong with Samsung/Panasonic plasmas. They are cheap and will do the job.

As an aside - I've seen LG's new panels. Not sure if they are Plasma but I don't know what idiot thought to include a glory hole on these displays.

I was looking at an LG, but need to re-look at them re the glory hole. I'm not locked in to any brand.

[bevanbraves]

Originally Posted by ssar

I very nearly went with 768p in a 50" / 127cm Plasma unit, to not only save several hundred $ but because the infrequent and then only slight improvement in overall detail etc.

If you can get a similar-specced (in all other aspects), same size 768p unit compared to a 1080p unit for $1000 less or even $900, I'd go with that if I were you.

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I was looking at 50 inch.

When you say "similar specced", what other specs should i be looking at?