General Aquarium Talk - Page 317

tangcla · 31st July 2012, 3:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MagyaR

Was looking into doing a fishless cycle, it seems the more humane way of not stressing fish, funnily enough, one aquarium place I rang today said I should just get some hardy fish like neon's or gold fish, she wasn't too concerned about the fish dying.

Seachem Stability is what I was told to use. According to the bottle, you can add fish instantly as long as you keep up the recommended dosage for seven days.

broccoli · 31st July 2012, 3:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Agg

They can vanish for days at a time,

Yes, he usually hides somewhere. I've got this big driftwood "tree" that's on top of a rock and he liked getting in between the rock and the wood and I could see him in there, but I finally got around to tying it back on properly so his little hidey-hole isn't the same. It had just been a bit longer than usual since I'd seen him, so I was worried he'd carked it. Luckily not. There are rocks and lots of places he can sit and not be seen, often I'll see him come out when I put the dinner in, but he was just lying low and I hadn't seen him.

brocky2006 · 31st July 2012, 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tangcla

Seachem Stability is what I was told to use. According to the bottle, you can add fish instantly as long as you keep up the recommended dosage for seven days.

http://www.wikihow.com/Do-a-Fishless-Cycle
this is a guide on how to do it
or u can buy the live bacteriato put into your tank, do u have an old tank, can put some of that water/rocks to get it started as long as the clorine has been neutralised/removed

keeni · 31st July 2012, 7:13 PM

I used to use the seachem stability, but since I was introduced to start smart I only use that now. Use it on both my fresh and salt water tanks. 24hr cycle FTW. Only problem is hardly anyone sells it.

www.startsmart-testimonials.com

MagyaR · 31st July 2012, 8:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brocky2006

http://www.wikihow.com/Do-a-Fishless-Cycle
this is a guide on how to do it
or u can buy the live bacteriato put into your tank, do u have an old tank, can put some of that water/rocks to get it started as long as the clorine has been neutralised/removed

Well I've added pebbles & a piece of wood, water currently has a brown tinge, I put conditioner in at the start.

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Originally Posted by keeni

I used to use the seachem stability, but since I was introduced to start smart I only use that now. Use it on both my fresh and salt water tanks. 24hr cycle FTW. Only problem is hardly anyone sells it.

www.startsmart-testimonials.com

hrmm don't know, a lot of these chemicals are just snake oil.

keeni · 31st July 2012, 8:41 PM

Snake oil or not its worked on every tank I have used it on. Which is 4 of my own and 12 of my mates tanks.

broccoli · 31st July 2012, 9:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MagyaR

hrmm don't know, a lot of these chemicals are just snake oil.

They aren't chemicals, they are bacteria-in-a-bottle.

MagyaR · 31st July 2012, 9:26 PM

So then all I have to do is go to a mates and squeeze his filter contents into a bottle and put contents into my tank, $45 per 345ml is expensive.

keeni · 31st July 2012, 9:32 PM

Actually yes, if you put some filter media out of an established tank into your new tank you will kick start the cycling process.

broccoli · 31st July 2012, 9:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MagyaR

So then all I have to do is go to a mates and squeeze his filter contents into a bottle and put contents into my tank, $45 per 345ml is expensive.

But only after you've put some fish in.

MagyaR · 31st July 2012, 10:30 PM

I guess this pretty much sums it up.

I've just noticed that there is this fluffy stuff on the wood piece I put in there, guessing that's fungus.

japes · 31st July 2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MagyaR

I've just noticed that there is this fluffy stuff on the wood piece I put in there, guessing that's fungus.

If it's white and cloudy, its beneficial bacteria. It often prefers certain wood textures to filter material etc, but will more than likely migrate/relocate to the filter over time.

Agg · 31st July 2012, 11:38 PM

Much more likely to be the first stage of an algae bloom.

In new tanks with driftwood you often see goopy white algae early on.

MagyaR · 31st July 2012, 11:44 PM

So I guess that's a good thing? I'll try and take some pics tomorrow.

KrAzEe · 1st August 2012, 2:35 AM

Algae is never good.

Also if your driftwood has never been soaked before it will give your water a brown tinge.

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31st July 2012, 7:13 PM	#4744
keeni Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle Posts: 274	I used to use the seachem stability, but since I was introduced to start smart I only use that now. Use it on both my fresh and salt water tanks. 24hr cycle FTW. Only problem is hardly anyone sells it. www.startsmart-testimonials.com

31st July 2012, 8:41 PM	#4746
keeni Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle Posts: 274	Snake oil or not its worked on every tank I have used it on. Which is 4 of my own and 12 of my mates tanks.

31st July 2012, 9:26 PM	#4748
MagyaR Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melb Posts: 4,784	So then all I have to do is go to a mates and squeeze his filter contents into a bottle and put contents into my tank, $45 per 345ml is expensive.

31st July 2012, 9:32 PM	#4749
keeni Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle Posts: 274	Actually yes, if you put some filter media out of an established tank into your new tank you will kick start the cycling process.

31st July 2012, 10:30 PM	#4751
MagyaR Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melb Posts: 4,784	I guess this pretty much sums it up. I've just noticed that there is this fluffy stuff on the wood piece I put in there, guessing that's fungus.

31st July 2012, 11:44 PM	#4754
MagyaR Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melb Posts: 4,784	So I guess that's a good thing? I'll try and take some pics tomorrow.