Asus Unveils HDMI-equipped Xonar HDAV1.3 sound cards! - Page 3

THE D · 26th August 2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveHimself

Hey you two! get a freakin room.

Who cares which one of you THINK you know more about a bloody encoder or decoder or codec or format, this thread is all about the new asus card that's coming out, get over yourselves kids!

And to that end i dunno if i would like going BACK to a full sized audio card, i have the maximus extreme mobo and that nice tidy little supremeFXII card that glows blue, gives off a great sound and i don't think unless your a major sound mixer there's really any point of bigger and better because i doubt you'll notice it.

I know how PC audio works, unlike you by the looks of it.

GTFO tool.

stevo4 · 26th August 2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by THE D

I know how PC audio works, unlike you by the looks of it.

Really????

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Originally Posted by THE D

The card has a BIOS and drivers, they are both to make the card run...

The card does not have a bios.
It has firmware, and like bios that is coded instructions, just like sw.
Just like the drivers are sw.

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Originally Posted by THE D

software always decodes audio.

How do you think your mp3 player works?
How does the sw get in there or end up being stored on a permanent basis?

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Originally Posted by THE D

True HD and Master Audio are both lossless audio formats (they just have to be uncompressed) vs DD and DD+ which are both lossy audio formats (and the audio data has to be remade out of the frames of audio, which is always harder).

Wrong!

Both TrueHD and DTS HD MA are compressed.

They use better algorithms to do the compression than DD or DTS used, so that when the data is uncompressed, the difference between that, and the source is for all intended purposes the same.

Cactus22 · 26th August 2008, 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DiGiTaL MoNkEY

Seems like thats the basic version...based on the asus site, there are two:

Xonar HDAV1.3 Deluxe http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...85&modelmenu=1

Xonar HDAV1.3 http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...55&modelmenu=1

Wow, so the deluxe version might be around $400. Hmmm dont think i wanna spend that much.

ginbong · 27th August 2008, 7:31 PM

You have to remember this soundcard will most likely be sought after by the HTPC crowd or PC users who will want the Blu-ray codecs.

I myself plan to buy a Blu-ray burner when they drop below $200 and hopefully build a cheap sub $1000 speaker set-up for casual watching.

Does anyone know about the release date of this soundcard?

stevo4 · 27th August 2008, 7:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ginbong

You have to remember this soundcard will most likely be sought after by the HTPC crowd or PC users who will want the Blu-ray codecs.

The Blu-ray codecs are part of the sw that comes with the card.
That being Total Media Theatre, which can be bought seperately.

With the Prelude from Auzentech at $80 to $100 cheaper, it will come down to how well it performs compared to that.

ginbong · 27th August 2008, 7:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo4

The Blu-ray codecs are part of the sw that comes with the card.
That being Total Media Theatre, which can be bought seperately.

With the Prelude from Auzentech at $80 to $100 cheaper, it will come down to how well it performs compared to that.

Okay say i wanted to play MA and TrueHD codecs, will I be able to do that with the Prelude? If so how? Do i just obtain a copy of Total Media Theatre?

DaveHimself · 27th August 2008, 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo4

Really????

The card does not have a bios.
It has firmware, and like bios that is coded instructions, just like sw.
Just like the drivers are sw.

How do you think your mp3 player works?
How does the sw get in there or end up being stored on a permanent basis?

Wrong!

Both TrueHD and DTS HD MA are compressed.

They use better algorithms to do the compression than DD or DTS used, so that when the data is uncompressed, the difference between that, and the source is for all intended purposes the same.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you got owned biatch!

stevo4 · 27th August 2008, 8:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ginbong

Okay say i wanted to play MA and TrueHD codecs, will I be able to do that with the Prelude? If so how? Do i just obtain a copy of Total Media Theatre?

You can do that with the Prelude by having it output as analogue 7.1.
Or their is an add on card coming for the Prelude that features HDMI ports that will enable you to bitstream the HD codecs to a reciever that can handle them.

The Xonar does the same. ie passes through audio in those formats or will enable you to output the sound as 7.1 analogue.

If you already have a sc with 7.1 output, all you will need is Total Media Theatre.

The Prelude, like the Xonar, has high quality op amps for output.

stevo4 · 27th August 2008, 8:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveHimself

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you got owned biatch!

Wrong!

ATM you are the one that is owned!

Who are you calling biatch?

ginbong · 27th August 2008, 8:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo4

You can do that with the Prelude by having it output as analogue 7.1.
Or their is an add on card coming for the Prelude that features HDMI ports that will enable you to bitstream the HD codecs to a reciever that can handle them.

The Xonar does the same. ie passes through audio in those formats or will enable you to output the sound as 7.1 analogue.

If you already have a sc with 7.1 output, all you will need is Total Media Theatre.

The Prelude, like the Xonar, has high quality op amps for output.

Okay thankyou, maybe i will wait for the reviews of the Xonar HDAV1.3. I would think I would need to pay for the Total Media Theatre right?

How is the Prelude for gaming in Win XP and Vista? I heard you can't use EAX 5 in Vista?

And no, I don't have a soundcard yet. I'm going to buy my soundcard and proper 5.1/7.1 speakers at the same time. And then the Blu-ray burner when they drop below $200.

I am merely researching at the moment as i have no clue about audio speakers/receivers and PC soundcards.

stevo4 · 27th August 2008, 8:35 PM

The Xonar HDAV1.3 is being sold with Total Media Theatre included.

Another card that may be worth checking out is this one -

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Auzentech Reveals HDMI 1.3-native PCI Express Audio Combo Card

Incorporates technology by Auzentech, Creative, NVIDIA Corporation, CyberLink and Silicon Image.
Santa Clara, CA – June 16, 2008: Auzentech, Inc. (www.auzentech.com) reveals today its non-downsampling, HDMI 1.3-native, PCI express audio combo card: Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater 7.1. The Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater 7.1 accepts video from either an internal or external connection, mixes it with digital audio, and outputs the combined video and lossless multichannel audio via a single HDMI™ 1.3 port.
Release of the Auzen X-Fi HomeTheater 7.1 is planned for Sept. of 2008.

http://www.auzentech.com/site/company/press.php
http://auzentech.officewebsiteonline...pec6-17-06.pdf

DaveHimself · 27th August 2008, 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo4

Wrong!

ATM you are the one that is owned!

Who are you calling biatch?

NOOOOOOOOO not you, what you said to D.

Sorry i quoted what you said to him.

stevo4 · 27th August 2008, 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveHimself

NOOOOOOOOO not you, what you said to D.

Sorry i quoted what you said to him.

No problems

DiGiTaL MoNkEY · 27th August 2008, 8:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo4

The Xonar HDAV1.3 is being sold with Total Media Theatre included.

Another card that may be worth checking out is this one -

http://www.auzentech.com/site/company/press.php
http://auzentech.officewebsiteonline...pec6-17-06.pdf

Thanks Steve, Sounds awesome

stevo4 · 27th August 2008, 9:51 PM

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27th August 2008, 7:31 PM	#34
ginbong Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brisbane, QLD Posts: 13	You have to remember this soundcard will most likely be sought after by the HTPC crowd or PC users who will want the Blu-ray codecs. I myself plan to buy a Blu-ray burner when they drop below $200 and hopefully build a cheap sub $1000 speaker set-up for casual watching. Does anyone know about the release date of this soundcard?