Fastest ADSL2+ modem? - Page 2

Whisper · 12th June 2008, 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by caspian

with all due respect,

Ciscos are, in my experience, a very advanced router with a very average modem in them. if you need the routing capabilities of a Cisco, get a router only and use a plain bridge modem upstream of it.

That's not what I've heard from the various accounts in this forum.

Lots of people have mentioned that they get faster and more stable sync speeds with their Cisco Router/Modems, and more importantly, they almost always perform better than everything else when forwarding/processing packets.

UB3R · 12th June 2008, 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lavi

just get those cheap Thompson 536 adsl2+ modems lol

they are hell stable very fast specially if you just need the modem (i read you will bridge it)

surprisingly i agree!

i tried 4 modems (2x billions, 1x netcomm, and the Thompson) on ADSL1 and the best speed i ever achieved was with the thompson speed touch 530.

best thing, it cost me $5 for two of them on ebay!

not sure how they go on ADSL2+ though

caspian · 13th June 2008, 8:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Whisper

That's not what I've heard from the various accounts in this forum.

Lots of people have mentioned that they get faster and more stable sync speeds with their Cisco Router/Modems, and more importantly, they almost always perform better than everything else when forwarding/processing packets.

*shrug*

I speak from looking at literally thousand of ADSL connections, and I don't regard the modem chipset they use as particularly capable. I've also seen and recommended more than a few Ciscos be replaced with $100 retail hardware to cure instability and performance problems, even with known IOS bug issues addressed.

I may be stamping on the holy grail of networking here, and I'm not saying that all Cisco modems are bad - I just don't regard the modem component of their hardware as particularly good.

the Thomson chipsets have always been good, as are the ones used in *some* of the Billion modems. other brands tend to vary between model and even lot, with the exception of D-Link and that Open Networks iConnect rubbish which should be avoided at all costs.

OldnBold · 13th June 2008, 8:45 AM

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Originally Posted by caspian

Ciscos are, in my experience, a very advanced router with a very average modem in them.

Linksys are owned and made by Cisco

lavi · 13th June 2008, 8:56 AM

being owned by Cisco don't mean they are rebadged cisco products or run IOS

before the the Cisco 877 i used to run a thomson 536 bridged mode to a cisco 2651 (with its fan unpluged) and i din't have issues really only moved to 877 because the price was right and i could have less clutter around my desk and less noise, i pissed the 2651 off as well as the 2950T and other stuff

is the 877 modem better then the thomson 536? i can't really say! to me they are similar in performance and with the cisco you get better diagnosis info because of the IOS

is the 877 router better then anything in that price range? Hell yes! not much comes close

edit:
but if you don't know anything about networking or how things should work, go buy something else, don't start with a cisco

timace · 13th June 2008, 10:35 AM

If you want just a modem, go for a Billion 7300. Syncs very quickly and is very stable (or at least on my connection, that's the case)

youngpro · 14th June 2008, 1:29 AM

ive got the billion 7300 but i dont really like it

i prefer my belkin modem, better throughput, better sync speed

Doc-of-FC · 14th June 2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by caspian

*shrug*

I speak from looking at literally thousand of ADSL connections,

I just don't regard the modem component of their hardware as particularly good.

the Thomson chipsets have always been good.

whats interesting is that you mention the thomson chipset, which the thomson name came in after the 50/50 merger between alcatel and 'thomson multimedia' (lets not forget who the telephony company is here) in 1999, the speedtouch product has always been an alcatel chipset and it most probably still is, regardless of what is printed. I don't see alcatel going and using someone elses chipset and tarnishing the speedtouch name considering they already have a rock solid position in the telephony industry.

just to highlight the fact, the speedtouch probably uses an alcatel chipset and funnily enough so does the 877.

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Router#sh dsl int atm 0
ATM0
Alcatel 20190 chipset information

CAMS · 14th June 2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc-of-FC

just to highlight the fact, the speedtouch probably uses an alcatel chipset

I think you will find it's the Broadcom chipset, BCM6338.

To the OP, new ST536v6 can be picked up of ebay for ~$30 +postage. These work well in bridge mode and if you don't like it, it was only about $40.

NiSlo · 14th June 2008, 12:16 PM

There's also the Billion 5200g. That's what I'm using at the moment and it's excellent and a fair bit cheaper than a 7xxx series model. As you won't need the wireless, perhaps a 5200 or 5102 will do you...

Doc-of-FC · 14th June 2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMS

I think you will find it's the Broadcom chipset, BCM6338.

fair call, couldn't find a picture of the insides on google.

CAMS · 14th June 2008, 1:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc-of-FC

fair call, couldn't find a picture of the insides on google.

I refer to Cormain that sell a lot.
http://www.cormain.com.au/store/agor..._Products.html

13th June 2008, 8:56 AM	#20
lavi Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,838	being owned by Cisco don't mean they are rebadged cisco products or run IOS before the the Cisco 877 i used to run a thomson 536 bridged mode to a cisco 2651 (with its fan unpluged) and i din't have issues really only moved to 877 because the price was right and i could have less clutter around my desk and less noise, i pissed the 2651 off as well as the 2950T and other stuff is the 877 modem better then the thomson 536? i can't really say! to me they are similar in performance and with the cisco you get better diagnosis info because of the IOS is the 877 router better then anything in that price range? Hell yes! not much comes close edit: but if you don't know anything about networking or how things should work, go buy something else, don't start with a cisco __________________ "There is a war inside my head, If I take a day off I'll die! "

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NiSlo Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Revelstoke Posts: 514	There's also the Billion 5200g. That's what I'm using at the moment and it's excellent and a fair bit cheaper than a 7xxx series model. As you won't need the wireless, perhaps a 5200 or 5102 will do you... Last edited by NiSlo; 14th June 2008 at 2:11 PM.

13th June 2008, 10:35 AM	#21
timace Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Western Sydney Posts: 1,734	If you want just a modem, go for a Billion 7300. Syncs very quickly and is very stable (or at least on my connection, that's the case)