Help with my HIS HD 4870

johnnylai2 · 8th August 2008, 11:52 PM

Hi there, i am a new user here and this is my first post.
I recently purchased a piece of HIS HD 4870 and sold my old little XFX 8600 GT to my friend. I happily plunged the new toy to my Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2 motherboard and uninstalled my forceware and installed the catalyst 8.7.
I heard there is a fan problem with the 4800 series so i flashed my card to the diamond oced bios and having a better fan control and a slightly oced 820/1100.
So everything went fine and i thought it's about time to run a 3d mark test to test the stability, and the result shocked me.

The score is unreasonably low, i checked the posts the 4870s should at least run a 14000 score in 3dmark2006@1280x1024 default settings.
What's happening to my card?
Can anyone help me?

FLB · 8th August 2008, 11:54 PM

You have a very low clocked CPU, that is holding you back alot. 3Dmark 06 relies alot on CPU for a portion of the total 3dmark score.

Reanimated35 · 8th August 2008, 11:57 PM

wow, that image only took four lots of forever to load.

could it be your slow cpu bringing you down?

Ch0st3r · 9th August 2008, 12:04 AM

Hmm i would still expect more even with a 1.8 core 2.

Back in the day a p4 3g with 6950 ultra sli would get like 8000

Tech-Kid · 9th August 2008, 2:12 AM

No that's actually about right. It's the bottleneck. No way can you even think of 10k at under 2.0GHz on a dual core.

impact_player · 9th August 2008, 10:32 AM

You might also consider whether it plays your games much better than your 8600GT. And that's a no brainer. Synthetic benchmarks don't mean squat unless you care about the number.

johnnylai2 · 9th August 2008, 2:02 PM

So i need to oc my tiny little cpu to get a better performance?

scotteee · 9th August 2008, 2:07 PM

yerp, that needs to be open'ed up big time

onoff312 · 9th August 2008, 3:51 PM

on my Q6600 bottelnecks disspapeared at around 2.8ghz that needs a big overclock.

flagger · 9th August 2008, 4:19 PM

you could be cpu limited (most probably). However let me tell you my story.

I had a 8800gt 512mb and I benched it in 3d06 before swapping it out for my new 4870 i bought 3 weeks ago. It scored ~8.5k marks. This was on a e2160@3.2ghz and in vista. The 4870 scored ~9.5k marks and after a fresh reinstall of vista got just over 10k. I thought it was the cpu, so i bought an e8400. I still got the same scores. Also every time i ran 3d06, return to proxycon and the water dragon scene were jerky and dropping frames.

After a few days of rebuilding and some misdiagnosis, I found the real culprit. It turned out digsby, a MSN messaging client clone, was screwing around with 3D performance. After every reinstall I would always install digsby straight away so I could chat with mates. Once I removed it, I got over 14k 3d06 marks and all the stuttering i used to get in my games (like race driver grid and quake wars) was gone (they also stuttered on my 8800gt). so if its stuttering, theres a chance a background process is causing drama with your games.

Another story. With my old 8800gt 512mb, I decided to make a spare gaming rig for anyone who cared to drop around. I had an old x2 3800 setup. it scored ~7.4k with the cpu at 2.0ghz and ~8.5k with the cpu at 2.4ghz.

Overclocking your c2d cpu is pretty easy though. Get it to ~2.8ghz and you should see the 4870 reach its full potential.

2_stroke · 9th August 2008, 7:20 PM

3dmark06 loves the cpu , trust me oc your cpu or upgrade cause it like having a gun with out ammo. I have a e3110 (e8400 eqiv) and after taking it from 3.0ghz stock to 3.6ghz my crysis benchmark went through the roof. Also use the Asus top bios it better then the diamond and more stable, I just used ati bios editor and remaped fanspeeds for mine. Like everyone here is saying your cpu is the bottle neck and another thing 3dmark doesnt mean nothing, grab crysis benchmark ect and use real game benchies to get an idea of improvment.

8th August 2008, 11:52 PM	#1
johnnylai2 New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3	Help with my HIS HD 4870 Hi there, i am a new user here and this is my first post. I recently purchased a piece of HIS HD 4870 and sold my old little XFX 8600 GT to my friend. I happily plunged the new toy to my Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2 motherboard and uninstalled my forceware and installed the catalyst 8.7. I heard there is a fan problem with the 4800 series so i flashed my card to the diamond oced bios and having a better fan control and a slightly oced 820/1100. So everything went fine and i thought it's about time to run a 3d mark test to test the stability, and the result shocked me. The score is unreasonably low, i checked the posts the 4870s should at least run a 14000 score in 3dmark2006@1280x1024 default settings. What's happening to my card? Can anyone help me?

8th August 2008, 11:54 PM	#2
FLB Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Adelaide Posts: 3,289	You have a very low clocked CPU, that is holding you back alot. 3Dmark 06 relies alot on CPU for a portion of the total 3dmark score. __________________ I've got some computers :P

8th August 2008, 11:57 PM	#3
Reanimated35 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,356	wow, that image only took four lots of forever to load. could it be your slow cpu bringing you down? __________________ Any post made by me is either made up, or based off memory and therefore my not be 100% accurate. It does also not represent the view of my employer or anyone else other than me. If you share the opinion however, go us!

9th August 2008, 12:04 AM	#4
Ch0st3r Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 74	Hmm i would still expect more even with a 1.8 core 2. Back in the day a p4 3g with 6950 ultra sli would get like 8000 __________________ Intel Q9400 @ 3.4ghz, Asus Silent Knight II, Asus P5N-T Deluxe 780i, Asus GTX260 896 @ 676/1542/2352, 4gb Patriot 1066 DDR2, 850w Real Power pro, Antec 900 air cooling

9th August 2008, 2:12 AM	#5
Tech-Kid Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 357	No that's actually about right. It's the bottleneck. No way can you even think of 10k at under 2.0GHz on a dual core. __________________ Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.6GHz 1.168v + Gigabyte P35-DS3P Rev 1.1 F10 + 2GB G-Skill PI PC2-8500 @ 1080 + Antec E.W 500 + Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX + ATi HD3850 + WD 640GB HDD + Pioneer 215BK + Coolermaster Elite 330 + Dual 19" LCD's + Logitech X-540 5.1

9th August 2008, 10:32 AM	#6
impact_player Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,168	You might also consider whether it plays your games much better than your 8600GT. And that's a no brainer. Synthetic benchmarks don't mean squat unless you care about the number.

9th August 2008, 2:02 PM	#7
johnnylai2 New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3	So i need to oc my tiny little cpu to get a better performance?

9th August 2008, 2:07 PM	#8
scotteee Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,212	yerp, that needs to be open'ed up big time __________________ - 3930k @ 4.8ghz - Corsair H100 Watercooling - Enermax Platimax 1500w PSU - Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme - 16gb G.Skill Ripjaw Z 2400mhz - 2 x Gigabyte GTX 690s in SLI - CoolerMaster HAF X Case - Corsair Force 3 240gb SSD - Dell 30" 3008WFP Monitor - Windows 7 64bit - Logitech G9+G19+G35 - Asus Xonar Essense STX - Beyer DT440's HWBOT OCAU "Azyouare"

9th August 2008, 3:51 PM	#9
onoff312 (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canberra Posts: 813	on my Q6600 bottelnecks disspapeared at around 2.8ghz that needs a big overclock.

9th August 2008, 4:19 PM	#10
flagger Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 4074 Posts: 2,159	you could be cpu limited (most probably). However let me tell you my story. I had a 8800gt 512mb and I benched it in 3d06 before swapping it out for my new 4870 i bought 3 weeks ago. It scored ~8.5k marks. This was on a e2160@3.2ghz and in vista. The 4870 scored ~9.5k marks and after a fresh reinstall of vista got just over 10k. I thought it was the cpu, so i bought an e8400. I still got the same scores. Also every time i ran 3d06, return to proxycon and the water dragon scene were jerky and dropping frames. After a few days of rebuilding and some misdiagnosis, I found the real culprit. It turned out digsby, a MSN messaging client clone, was screwing around with 3D performance. After every reinstall I would always install digsby straight away so I could chat with mates. Once I removed it, I got over 14k 3d06 marks and all the stuttering i used to get in my games (like race driver grid and quake wars) was gone (they also stuttered on my 8800gt). so if its stuttering, theres a chance a background process is causing drama with your games. Another story. With my old 8800gt 512mb, I decided to make a spare gaming rig for anyone who cared to drop around. I had an old x2 3800 setup. it scored ~7.4k with the cpu at 2.0ghz and ~8.5k with the cpu at 2.4ghz. Overclocking your c2d cpu is pretty easy though. Get it to ~2.8ghz and you should see the 4870 reach its full potential.

9th August 2008, 7:20 PM	#11
2_stroke Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: cranbourne 3977 Posts: 932	3dmark06 loves the cpu , trust me oc your cpu or upgrade cause it like having a gun with out ammo. I have a e3110 (e8400 eqiv) and after taking it from 3.0ghz stock to 3.6ghz my crysis benchmark went through the roof. Also use the Asus top bios it better then the diamond and more stable, I just used ati bios editor and remaped fanspeeds for mine. Like everyone here is saying your cpu is the bottle neck and another thing 3dmark doesnt mean nothing, grab crysis benchmark ect and use real game benchies to get an idea of improvment.