ABS makes overclock easier - DFI Lanparty DK P45 CPU overclock 636MHz achieved

windwithme · 23rd August 2008, 10:41 PM

May 2008, Intel launched their new chipset solution, P45 + ICH10R

This June, many motherboard vendors launched their new P45 products just like P965 and P35 in the last two years.
DFI, well known on high-end overclock motherboard market, as we were told,
DFI will release 3 of P45 models to retail market this year to please their loyal overclockers and gamers.
This review, we will primarily focus on these two, DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS and DK P45-T2RS PLUS,
retail price expected to be lower than most of high-end overclockable P45 products in the retail market.

LANPARTY JR P45-T2R - This is DFI’s first attempt on OC Micro-ATX products, will also be released soon.
DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS and DK P45-T2RS PLUS are almost identical, except Plus edition comes with extra 2 SATAII ports.
DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS product, color printed carton.
Each new released Dark series product comes with new package design.

Motherboard accessories also includes CrossFire bridge

DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS motherboard

Motherboard lower-left corner
2 PCI-E x16 slots (support PCI-E link width x8- x8 CrossFire)
2 PCI-E x1
2 PCI
1 FLOPPY connector
Network controller Marvell 88E8053
Audio chips Realtek ALC885, Support 8.1 channels and HD technology, and also come with DFI exclusive Tantalum capacitors.

Motherboard lower-right corner
6X SATAII(ICH10R)
South bridge ICH10R Support RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1 and RAID 5
PLUS will come with extra two SATA II ports
Built-in Power/Reset switches and LED debug lights

Motherboard upper-right corner
1X IDE(JMicron JMB368)
4X DIMM DDRII support 667/800/1066(DDRII 1200 can be reached, however it will depend the quality of users’ DRAM modules)

Motherboard upper-left corner
Equipped with 5 phase digital PWM module and 12 MOSFET, capable of handling dual core or quad core 45/65nm CPUs.

IO connectors
6X USB 2.0
1X Gigabit LAN
Optical S/PDIF-out/RCA S/PDIF-out
RED JUMP is for Clear CMOS feature

DK P45 is equipped with black heat-pipe solution

windwithme · 23rd August 2008, 10:44 PM

Full screen boot up logo emphasizes the newly developed Auto boost system.
As it showed on the boot up logo, press F1 right after boot up will activate ABS feature

BIOS Main setting menu

Some users are not familiar with DFI BIOS setting options
The BIOS setting menu is separated to two modes, standard mode and advanced mode.

Easy Mode

Advance Mode will allow experienced users to utilize more setting options
Overclock duo core CPU, CPU Clock0 Skew is suggested to set to 100ps
Shutdown after AC loss option will prevent system reboot several times after overclock. ( This issue is caused by Intel South bridge design)

All of P965/P35/X38/X48/P45 platform come with this annoying characteristic, however DFI exclusive design can eliminate this annoying symptom.

CPU Feature

DRAM Timing
To overclock non-performance DRAM modules, tRP and Read Delay are few settings can be tried first.
None-performance DRAM modules could try to vary tRP or ReadDelay value to increase DRAM clock.
None-Micro D9 modules could go up to 1150 ~ 1200.

First three are key elements for DRAM overclocking, normally these two set of setting 0/0/2 or 3/3/1 could have good result.

windwithme · 23rd August 2008, 10:50 PM

This part, just select Auto will do.

Voltage setting menu
CPU VID Special Add +12.5mV~787.5mV
DRAM Voltage 1.789~3.280V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage 1.555~2.15V
NB COre Voltage 1.1825~1.9700V
CPU VTT Voltage 1.10~1.60V
Setting might slightly vary according different characteristic on each CPU
Personally, 0.63/0.67/0.58 and 0.61/0.61/0.58 are two set of settings used oftenly.

DRAM speed

PC Health Status

The above settings are some reference overclock setting, those settings were done by E8400 C0 overclock higher than 600MHz.
Most of P45 products need to set NB/VTT Voltage to 1.45V~1.6V for better performance.
DFI DK P45 just need NB/VTT set to 1.34V ~ 1.45V to reach the same level of performance.

Test Environment:
CPU: INTEL Core 2 Duo E8400/Quad Q8200
MB: DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS PLUS
DRAM: CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF/TWIN2X2048-8500C5D
VGA: GAINWARD HD4850 + MSI R4850-T2D512 CorssFire
HD: Seagate 7200.10 320GB
POWER: Corsair HX1000W Modular Power Supply
Cooler: Thermaltake BigTyp VP/JETART Nano Diamond

Drivers and Utility programs

New revision of hardware monitoring program

Alone with their P45 products ,DFI also launched their latest designed automatic overclock technology, called “ABS”, short for “Auto Boost System”.

Select your motherboard model name and press confirm to next step.

ADVANCED

windwithme · 23rd August 2008, 10:53 PM

Second step will show users current CPU status, press Reloaded or Upgrade to next step

A pop-up windows with BACKUP and RELOAD options will appear right after WIN RELOADED is selected.

BACKUP interface
During system boot up, ABS will utilize the setting stored on CMOS reloaded,
and follow the sequence from bank 4,3,2,1 to find a bootable setting and stay with first bootable bank.

Apart from saving your own setting, there are wilder usage for adopting other’ overclock profiles.
Allow users to share some stable or high performance overclock profiles through Internet to other overclockers.
DFI also provides some overclock profile samples on their official website, such as E7300/Q660/E8400’s overclok profiles on LP DK P45-T2RS product webpage.

VGA
GAINWARD HD4850 + MSI R4850-T2D512 CrossFire tests
CPU: 476X7=>3332.7Mhz
DRAM: DDRII 952 CL5 5-5-15
VGA: 625/993Mhz

3DMARK2003

3DMARK2005

3DMARK2006

2008 popular game - Crysis

ATI Radeon HD4850 is deserved to be the best value middle range graphics card.
Well Graphical performance after Crossfire, 3Dmark and Crysis have outstanding performance, however the only drawback will be temperature slightly higer.

DRAM performance
Use high cost efficiency DRAM module “CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D”

DDRII 1179 CL5 5-5-15 dual Super PI 32M stable

None-Micron D9 memory modules could also reach DDRII 1180 on DFI DK P45-T2RS.

DDRII 1212 CL5 5-8-18, the bandwidth reaches 10884MB/s, quite close to DDR3 performance.

DFI DK P45 default setting are pretty tight, increase DRAM clock and test bandwidth
DRAM timing, loosen up tRP to 7 or 8 could overclock higher.
This DDRII DRAM modules could not enter operating system if overclock higher than 1190MHz.
However it could reach DDRII 1212 on DFI DK P45.
Hard to believe none-Micro D9 DDRII modules could performe so well like this.

windwithme · 23rd August 2008, 11:02 PM

CPU
Quad core Q8200 R0, the latest stepping
Reach two Super PI 32M stable at 500Mhz

Although we could not reach four of Super PI 32M during our tests, perhaps it is reachable by few more touches, however our test result already showed the remarkable quality compared with other P45 products currently exist in the retail market.

Dual core E8400 C0
606.7Mhz SP2004 over 15 minutes

616.3Mhz single Super PI 32M

Roughly around 620~625Mhzcould enter operating system and completed CPUZ verification.
Utilize SetFSB to reach ultimate performance.
Air cooling dual channel 636MHz CPUZ verification completed

Stability is the major concern during our tests, exteme overlcok just to show you how well this product is capable of.
Basically, according to our test results, dual core CPU is capable of reaching 606Mhz,
and quad core CPU could reach 500Mhz with two of PI 32M completed on this DFI DK P45.
Both stability and performance are important factors to consider while overclock CPU.

DFI LANPARTY DK P45
Strength
1. 100% Japanese brand solid capacitor, powered by 4 phase didgital PWM module,
provides stable power source for overclock usage as well as high input efficiency to match the energy saving concept for everyday computing activities.
2. ABS technology is easy to use for users who are no so familiar to overclock,
adopt ABS profiles from other experienced overclockers seems to be a handy short cut for those beginners.
3. DFI exclusive design to avoid system reboot after overclocked can pro-long hard disk life-spam.
4. Outstanding performance on dual core and quad core CPU, and good
5. The prices come in very affordable range, US$160 for none-Plus edition, and US$180 for Plus edition.

Drawback
1. The visibility of DFI products are low in retail market, DFI need work harder to bring up more attention on retail market.
2. motherboard 3.3V/12V voltage are slightly lower, and also do not have mechanism to prevent CPU Voltage drop.

Performance ★★★★★★★★★☆
Components ★★★★★★★★☆☆
Physical Appearance ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
Cost and performance ★★★★★★★★☆☆

This time, DFI LANPARTY DK P45 launched slightly slower than other motherboard vendors, and price could be lower than market expectation.
Since there is no major differences between P35 and P45 specification, most of consumers are hesitate to make their final decision of what should be picked.
However most of P45 products capable of reaching dual core 600MHz and qual core 500MHz are high-end products.
It is not easy to find a well designed and highly overclockable P45 products, price around US$150 ~180.
Except two models from BIOSTAR, this DFI LANPARTY DK P45 is highly recommended with surperb overclock capability at very affordable price.

The good overclock performance, good quality components, and exclusive design to prevent system reboot,
easy to use ABS user interface, all of those excellent features make this DFI LANPARTY DK P45 a must have item, and not to forget it is priced between USD$160-180.
LANPARTY JR P45-T2R - The first attempt on OC Micro-ATX products for DFI.
We heard it will release soon, named as JR P45, we are hoping this upcoming product will be as good as this DK P45 on our review.

Alba · 24th August 2008, 2:53 AM

Mate well done again, your reviews are getting better and better

stablez · 24th August 2008, 7:04 AM

I couldnt find the ram you were using on staticice,.
I will search again.
I want yoour ram as they are base..
Nice DFI reveiw.

Defined for innovation

Updated.
I found them for $807

Does anyone have em cheaper elsewhere. AU

Smoke87 · 24th August 2008, 9:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stablez

I couldnt find the ram you were using on staticice,.
I will search again.
I want yoour ram as they are base..
Nice DFI reveiw.

Defined for innovation

Updated.
I found them for $807

Does anyone have em cheaper elsewhere. AU

Rule 1 about high speed DDR3 - DO NOT BUY IN AUSTRALIA, BUY FROM THE USA

I got my 2GB 2000mhz kit for $250 on the forums and the same price from the US

chainbolt · 24th August 2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stablez

Updated.
I found them for $807

Gold plated for AUS customers?

Sycotek · 24th August 2008, 9:05 PM

The RAM in this review can be purchased in Perth relatively inexpensively:

http://www.ple.com.au/?p=products&category_sub_id=1581

hope that helps

Qn though: Why does CPU-Z show DDR2 on SPD but DDR3 on Memory Tab? and is the cooler used the same as Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX CL-P031?http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...oducts_id=2146

PapaDom · 24th August 2008, 9:16 PM

I saw one of these boards last night at a LAN. Very cool.

HAVIC · 24th August 2008, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sycotek

Qn though: Why does CPU-Z show DDR2 on SPD but DDR3 on Memory Tab?

My guess would be slightly outdated CPU-Z perhaps?

windwithme · 25th August 2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sycotek

The RAM in this review can be purchased in Perth relatively inexpensively:

http://www.ple.com.au/?p=products&category_sub_id=1581

hope that helps

Qn though: Why does CPU-Z show DDR2 on SPD but DDR3 on Memory Tab? and is the cooler used the same as Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX CL-P031?http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...oducts_id=2146

P45 DDR2 + CPUZ 1.4X~1.46=>show DDR3

Wormmm · 25th August 2008, 4:52 PM

cheers for the review mate!

Ive been thinking about picking up one for my Lan pc to replace the old shity G31 board thats in it! And for the price it seems to be a good buy

Ill go place my order now

chainbolt · 25th August 2008, 5:22 PM

Nice pictures and results. I wonder though about the price. Would somebody buy now such an expensive piece, when the new stuff is around the corner?

23rd August 2008, 10:41 PM	#1
windwithme Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 370	ABS makes overclock easier - DFI Lanparty DK P45 CPU overclock 636MHz achieved May 2008, Intel launched their new chipset solution, P45 + ICH10R This June, many motherboard vendors launched their new P45 products just like P965 and P35 in the last two years. DFI, well known on high-end overclock motherboard market, as we were told, DFI will release 3 of P45 models to retail market this year to please their loyal overclockers and gamers. This review, we will primarily focus on these two, DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS and DK P45-T2RS PLUS, retail price expected to be lower than most of high-end overclockable P45 products in the retail market. LANPARTY JR P45-T2R - This is DFI’s first attempt on OC Micro-ATX products, will also be released soon. DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS and DK P45-T2RS PLUS are almost identical, except Plus edition comes with extra 2 SATAII ports. DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS product, color printed carton. Each new released Dark series product comes with new package design. Motherboard accessories also includes CrossFire bridge DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS motherboard Motherboard lower-left corner 2 PCI-E x16 slots (support PCI-E link width x8- x8 CrossFire) 2 PCI-E x1 2 PCI 1 FLOPPY connector Network controller Marvell 88E8053 Audio chips Realtek ALC885, Support 8.1 channels and HD technology, and also come with DFI exclusive Tantalum capacitors. Motherboard lower-right corner 6X SATAII(ICH10R) South bridge ICH10R Support RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1 and RAID 5 PLUS will come with extra two SATA II ports Built-in Power/Reset switches and LED debug lights Motherboard upper-right corner 1X IDE(JMicron JMB368) 4X DIMM DDRII support 667/800/1066(DDRII 1200 can be reached, however it will depend the quality of users’ DRAM modules) Motherboard upper-left corner Equipped with 5 phase digital PWM module and 12 MOSFET, capable of handling dual core or quad core 45/65nm CPUs. IO connectors 6X USB 2.0 1X Gigabit LAN Optical S/PDIF-out/RCA S/PDIF-out RED JUMP is for Clear CMOS feature DK P45 is equipped with black heat-pipe solution

24th August 2008, 2:53 AM	#6
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24th August 2008, 7:04 AM	#7
stablez (Banned or Deleted) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Humidycrib Posts: 3,940	I couldnt find the ram you were using on staticice,. I will search again. I want yoour ram as they are base.. Nice DFI reveiw. Defined for innovation Updated. I found them for $807 Does anyone have em cheaper elsewhere. AU Last edited by stablez; 24th August 2008 at 7:09 AM.

24th August 2008, 9:05 PM	#10
Sycotek Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Perth WA Posts: 18	CORSAIR TWIN2X 2GB KIT PC8500F 1066M The RAM in this review can be purchased in Perth relatively inexpensively: http://www.ple.com.au/?p=products&category_sub_id=1581 hope that helps Qn though: Why does CPU-Z show DDR2 on SPD but DDR3 on Memory Tab? and is the cooler used the same as Thermaltake Big Typhoon VX CL-P031?http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...oducts_id=2146 Last edited by Sycotek; 24th August 2008 at 9:20 PM. Reason: adding another qn

24th August 2008, 9:16 PM	#11
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23rd August 2008, 10:44 PM	#2
windwithme Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 370	Full screen boot up logo emphasizes the newly developed Auto boost system. As it showed on the boot up logo, press F1 right after boot up will activate ABS feature BIOS Main setting menu Some users are not familiar with DFI BIOS setting options The BIOS setting menu is separated to two modes, standard mode and advanced mode. Easy Mode Advance Mode will allow experienced users to utilize more setting options Overclock duo core CPU, CPU Clock0 Skew is suggested to set to 100ps Shutdown after AC loss option will prevent system reboot several times after overclock. ( This issue is caused by Intel South bridge design) All of P965/P35/X38/X48/P45 platform come with this annoying characteristic, however DFI exclusive design can eliminate this annoying symptom. CPU Feature DRAM Timing To overclock non-performance DRAM modules, tRP and Read Delay are few settings can be tried first. None-performance DRAM modules could try to vary tRP or ReadDelay value to increase DRAM clock. None-Micro D9 modules could go up to 1150 ~ 1200. First three are key elements for DRAM overclocking, normally these two set of setting 0/0/2 or 3/3/1 could have good result.

23rd August 2008, 10:50 PM	#3
windwithme Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 370	This part, just select Auto will do. Voltage setting menu CPU VID Special Add +12.5mV~787.5mV DRAM Voltage 1.789~3.280V SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage 1.555~2.15V NB COre Voltage 1.1825~1.9700V CPU VTT Voltage 1.10~1.60V Setting might slightly vary according different characteristic on each CPU Personally, 0.63/0.67/0.58 and 0.61/0.61/0.58 are two set of settings used oftenly. DRAM speed PC Health Status The above settings are some reference overclock setting, those settings were done by E8400 C0 overclock higher than 600MHz. Most of P45 products need to set NB/VTT Voltage to 1.45V~1.6V for better performance. DFI DK P45 just need NB/VTT set to 1.34V ~ 1.45V to reach the same level of performance. Test Environment: CPU: INTEL Core 2 Duo E8400/Quad Q8200 MB: DFI LANPARTY DK P45-T2RS PLUS DRAM: CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF/TWIN2X2048-8500C5D VGA: GAINWARD HD4850 + MSI R4850-T2D512 CorssFire HD: Seagate 7200.10 320GB POWER: Corsair HX1000W Modular Power Supply Cooler: Thermaltake BigTyp VP/JETART Nano Diamond Drivers and Utility programs New revision of hardware monitoring program Alone with their P45 products ,DFI also launched their latest designed automatic overclock technology, called “ABS”, short for “Auto Boost System”. Select your motherboard model name and press confirm to next step. ADVANCED

23rd August 2008, 10:53 PM	#4
windwithme Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 370	Second step will show users current CPU status, press Reloaded or Upgrade to next step A pop-up windows with BACKUP and RELOAD options will appear right after WIN RELOADED is selected. BACKUP interface During system boot up, ABS will utilize the setting stored on CMOS reloaded, and follow the sequence from bank 4,3,2,1 to find a bootable setting and stay with first bootable bank. Apart from saving your own setting, there are wilder usage for adopting other’ overclock profiles. Allow users to share some stable or high performance overclock profiles through Internet to other overclockers. DFI also provides some overclock profile samples on their official website, such as E7300/Q660/E8400’s overclok profiles on LP DK P45-T2RS product webpage. VGA GAINWARD HD4850 + MSI R4850-T2D512 CrossFire tests CPU: 476X7=>3332.7Mhz DRAM: DDRII 952 CL5 5-5-15 VGA: 625/993Mhz 3DMARK2003 3DMARK2005 3DMARK2006 2008 popular game - Crysis ATI Radeon HD4850 is deserved to be the best value middle range graphics card. Well Graphical performance after Crossfire, 3Dmark and Crysis have outstanding performance, however the only drawback will be temperature slightly higer. DRAM performance Use high cost efficiency DRAM module “CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8500C5D” DDRII 1179 CL5 5-5-15 dual Super PI 32M stable None-Micron D9 memory modules could also reach DDRII 1180 on DFI DK P45-T2RS. DDRII 1212 CL5 5-8-18, the bandwidth reaches 10884MB/s, quite close to DDR3 performance. DFI DK P45 default setting are pretty tight, increase DRAM clock and test bandwidth DRAM timing, loosen up tRP to 7 or 8 could overclock higher. This DDRII DRAM modules could not enter operating system if overclock higher than 1190MHz. However it could reach DDRII 1212 on DFI DK P45. Hard to believe none-Micro D9 DDRII modules could performe so well like this.

23rd August 2008, 11:02 PM	#5
windwithme Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 370	CPU Quad core Q8200 R0, the latest stepping Reach two Super PI 32M stable at 500Mhz Although we could not reach four of Super PI 32M during our tests, perhaps it is reachable by few more touches, however our test result already showed the remarkable quality compared with other P45 products currently exist in the retail market. Dual core E8400 C0 606.7Mhz SP2004 over 15 minutes 616.3Mhz single Super PI 32M Roughly around 620~625Mhzcould enter operating system and completed CPUZ verification. Utilize SetFSB to reach ultimate performance. Air cooling dual channel 636MHz CPUZ verification completed Stability is the major concern during our tests, exteme overlcok just to show you how well this product is capable of. Basically, according to our test results, dual core CPU is capable of reaching 606Mhz, and quad core CPU could reach 500Mhz with two of PI 32M completed on this DFI DK P45. Both stability and performance are important factors to consider while overclock CPU. DFI LANPARTY DK P45 Strength 1. 100% Japanese brand solid capacitor, powered by 4 phase didgital PWM module, provides stable power source for overclock usage as well as high input efficiency to match the energy saving concept for everyday computing activities. 2. ABS technology is easy to use for users who are no so familiar to overclock, adopt ABS profiles from other experienced overclockers seems to be a handy short cut for those beginners. 3. DFI exclusive design to avoid system reboot after overclocked can pro-long hard disk life-spam. 4. Outstanding performance on dual core and quad core CPU, and good 5. The prices come in very affordable range, US$160 for none-Plus edition, and US$180 for Plus edition. Drawback 1. The visibility of DFI products are low in retail market, DFI need work harder to bring up more attention on retail market. 2. motherboard 3.3V/12V voltage are slightly lower, and also do not have mechanism to prevent CPU Voltage drop. Performance ★★★★★★★★★☆ Components ★★★★★★★★☆☆ Physical Appearance ★★★★★★★☆☆☆ Cost and performance ★★★★★★★★☆☆ This time, DFI LANPARTY DK P45 launched slightly slower than other motherboard vendors, and price could be lower than market expectation. Since there is no major differences between P35 and P45 specification, most of consumers are hesitate to make their final decision of what should be picked. However most of P45 products capable of reaching dual core 600MHz and qual core 500MHz are high-end products. It is not easy to find a well designed and highly overclockable P45 products, price around US$150 ~180. Except two models from BIOSTAR, this DFI LANPARTY DK P45 is highly recommended with surperb overclock capability at very affordable price. The good overclock performance, good quality components, and exclusive design to prevent system reboot, easy to use ABS user interface, all of those excellent features make this DFI LANPARTY DK P45 a must have item, and not to forget it is priced between USD$160-180. LANPARTY JR P45-T2R - The first attempt on OC Micro-ATX products for DFI. We heard it will release soon, named as JR P45, we are hoping this upcoming product will be as good as this DK P45 on our review.

25th August 2008, 4:52 PM	#14
Wormmm Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Langwarrin (3910) Posts: 65	cheers for the review mate! Ive been thinking about picking up one for my Lan pc to replace the old shity G31 board thats in it! And for the price it seems to be a good buy Ill go place my order now

25th August 2008, 5:22 PM	#15
chainbolt The Deputy of Love ® Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Tokyo Posts: 56,036	Nice pictures and results. I wonder though about the price. Would somebody buy now such an expensive piece, when the new stuff is around the corner?